Indeed ros1 totally agree.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/02/2015 21:38:45    1690237

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I would love you to tell me Ros1 what you felt the 2014 All-Ireland hurling final was missing that meant it was boring, especially after saying you found the 2013 final entertaining.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 04/02/2015 21:49:29    1690245

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Flack, don't worry about it, Meath is full of a fair bit of cr## people these days but they all are, howa yiz brigade. The crime rate has doubled in recent years ;).

I doubt it.

Sure there's nothing worth stealing in the entire county.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 05/02/2015 09:18:16    1690269

Theres not much silver to steal in Roscommon or Meath anyway.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/02/2015 10:19:00    1690291

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Yes The Master.. obviously its impossible to kick a football 70 plus yards.. Just because the distance you score from in hurling is further doesn't mean it takes less practice or skill to score. Are you saying scoring from 80 yards in hurling is easier and takes less skill and practice than scoring from 40 in football?

Actually it does. Let's compare the relative max range for scoring a point in hurling and football. There are an awful lot more guys in hurling who can score from that range, then there are footballers who can score from the max range in football. That tells us that it is easier to score in hurling - not the frankly ridiculous assumption that 'hurlers are naturally better'. Footballers at the top level put in the same training as hurlers at the top level, therefore this thing about practice or skill is not a runner here. The same goes for a free from 40 yards. Far more of them are missed in football than hurling at the elite level of both sports. What does that say about the varying levels of difficulty in scoring?


But ya, if you don't like hurling fair enough, each to there own. i like football too just not as much as hurling. I just get a much bigger buzz from watching it because of the pace.

Fine. But for me, things happening at speed isn't enough to entertain me. That is like saying a good movie is one that has a fast car in it, regardless of what else is going on. There has to be more substance to it.


Your also forgetting the fact that in hurling when your shooting, even from just 40 yards out, the guy trying to stop you.. has a 35 inch piece of wood to block, flick and hook you with..

And you forget that you also have a 35 inch piece of wood to put the ball out of his reach.


Also, a few points on some of the arguments made - lateral passing is considered poor football, and it actually is a sign that you are the poorer team. The top teams rarely do it. Hoofing the sliotar for the entire game is considered good hurling, all the top teams base their entire game on it. Big difference there.

Retaining possession, in any sport, is superior play. Clare won liam McCarthy on the back of retaining more possession than their competitors, so how people can be scoffing at teams retaining possession now, only shows what they don't know.

Both Clare and Kilkenny incorporate a blanket defence.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 05/02/2015 10:30:07    1690300

TheMaster,

"The same goes for a free from 40 yards. Far more of them are missed in football than hurling at the elite level of both sports. What does that say about the varying levels of difficulty in scoring?"

Actually free-taking in football is something that has declined in the modern era, I believe. Kicking from the hands is not as consistently accurate as from the ground. Larry Tompkins & Brian Stafford spring to mind but every county once endeavoured to have a quality free-taker. Nowadays most teams have to bring up a goalie to try to score a '45.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 05/02/2015 10:46:57    1690311

I wudnt bother trying to argue with someone who knocks either sport.They dont like it.Big deal.For those of us that love both games its just double the enjoyment during the GAA season.Theres never a dull Sunday.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/02/2015 11:08:41    1690323

Well said, Cuederocket.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 05/02/2015 11:22:05    1690329

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The_post the football final was poor but the Kerry Mayo games were the 2 excellent games, i think it matters what you are brought up with, for example i was at the Kilkenny/ Limerick semi last year but i would have said the majority of football games last year were more entertaining for me then that match.

Ah come on now, you are trying to compare 2 football matches played on sunny August days to a hurling match played in a torrential downpour. The skill shown in the hurling given the conditions was exemplary. Don't get me wrong though, the 2 kerry v mayo games were outstanding. Perhaps you should consider the 2 All Ireland hurling final matches.


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To say hurling is played by people who cant play football is laugable! Im pretty sure the limerick hurlers would beat the limerick footballers at football! and that goes for lots of counties! A good hurling team would hold there own in football but not the other way around.. far too skilful

So the Kilkenny hurlers would hold their own in division 1 in the football league? Listen don't be kidding yourself. Hurling requires a skillset not natural to people, i.e. controlling a ball on the end of a stick, so initially it takes more practice to learn it. But that shouldn't be confused with it being more difficult. How many footballers at the highest level routinely knock points over from their own half? Answer zero, because it is more difficult to do in football. You see more frees missed also - because it is more difficult to score. You see more blocks, dispossessions, etc etc, because the ball is bigger, and so guys have to play cuter to keep it away from opponents. All this is lost on the hurling fraternity though. They don't give it any thought.

A question, if hurlers are more skilful, then why don't duel players run amok in the football?

No he never said Kilkenny hurlers could compete at Div 1 football. His point is that many counties hurlers would beat that same counties footballers, which may be the case but I could not see the reverse senario.

KK4Life (Kilkenny) - Posts: 56 - 05/02/2015 11:24:59    1690331

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I wudnt bother trying to argue with someone who knocks either sport.They dont like it.Big deal.For those of us that love both games its just double the enjoyment during the GAA season.Theres never a dull Sunday.

Totally agree.

Those that are going out of their way to belittle either sport on this thread come across fairly pathetically to be honest.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 05/02/2015 11:28:03    1690332

Bit rich hearing a Roscommon poster talking about crime when your own county is known as the sheep stealers.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/02/2015 11:37:33    1690336