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Cork hurling champions beaten by Kerry!

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It's a great idea for the senior champions of weaker counties to go in a grade lower to give them a nice crack at going to croke park.

Both Ballyhea and Lixnaw were without crucial players for that game. From what I hear, Lixnaw deserved their win. Best of luck to them.
Galvin didn't play for Lixnaw. He's injured.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 27/10/2014 16:54:05    1667524

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Ballyhaunis beat Four Roads today in Connacht Intermediate Hurling & Calry St. Joseph's beat St. Mary's Carrick-on-Shannon in the Junior.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 27/10/2014 17:54:20    1667542

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Mount Leinster Rangers winning Leinster and reachin the All Ire club final last year,shows that a club from outside the elite hurling counties can compete with the best.The club championship is a great leveller.I am not surprised by any of the results mentioned on this thread.Congrats to all.No reason they cannot go further.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/10/2014 18:01:21    1667546

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I agree with cuedrocket. None of the results here should surprise anybody.

If Lixnaw were in Cork, they would do very well. They might not win the county senior hurling championship-but if they were playing more hurling, more often there is no reason why they could not.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 27/10/2014 20:15:06    1667585

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Not surprising but notable results for senior clubs from lower tier counties against intermediate clubs from top tier counties. It's important to get word out there on these results so there is a better understanding of the level some clubs are at.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7856 - 27/10/2014 21:03:05    1667610

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Bennybunny and hurlingspuds
Can I ask ye a question? Does jimmy Barry Murphy pick all his players from division 1 teams or does he pick from all divisions?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/10/2014 12:05:33    1667695

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I believe Seamus Harnedy plays for St Itas,who i dont think are a Senior club.Could be wrong.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/10/2014 12:24:14    1667705

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KingdomBoy1
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Bennybunny and hurlingspuds
Can I ask ye a question? Does jimmy Barry Murphy pick all his players from division 1 teams or does he pick from all divisions?

By division one do you mean senior clubs? Taking the AI semi final from last year

Nash, mc loughlin and Walsh are from Kanturk, an intermediate club. We have two grades of intermediate in Cork now which has made junior hurling a fair bit weaker but has resulted in two really competitive grades of intermediate hurling. Kanturk are the lower intermediate grade. Chris Joyce is with Na Piarsaigh, a big senior club. Shane O'Neill and pa cronin are bishopstown, a senior club. Steve Mc Donnell hurls senior with the glen. Damien Cahalane hurls with st finbarrs, big senior club. Ellis is with Millstreet, traditionally a football club and is junior hurling. Kearney is from sars, the best senior team in cork at the moment. Bill cooper hurls senior with youghal. Lehane is senior with midleton. Horgan is also glen. Cadogan is douglas which is senior. Harnedy's club, st itas, are indeed a junior club. That's a fair whack of junior and intermediate players. It might be more telling to see whether the lads from smaller country clubs get a fair crack of the whip at underage but to be honest I'd say there would be a similar result.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 28/10/2014 13:02:05    1667723

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He does pick players from all grades. St Ita's are a junior club. The Divisional sides play in the senior championship, made up of intermediate and junior players within that division. That's were these players are scouted..

dingle82 (Down) - Posts: 213 - 28/10/2014 13:12:01    1667728

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its ciaran carey managed lixnaw vs gary kirby manged bruff in semi final.interesting game between 2 limerick legends who are also from the same club patrickswell

hitmanhart (Limerick) - Posts: 496 - 28/10/2014 13:31:33    1667740

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Wow, the Connacht Club hurling results from yesterday still not on the "Hurling Results" section here...!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 28/10/2014 14:26:52    1667764

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A fair spread of junior and intermediate players i see.Fair play to Jimmy Barry in scouring all grades for the counties best talent.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/10/2014 14:34:52    1667768

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Thanks for that lads, and ya there seems to be a good mix of intermediate and senior players playing in cork team. I just tought with so many clubs in cork that jbm could afford to pick from senior clubs alone , but then I'd always be afraid that a good player could slip through the net or not be given a proper chance because he'd play for a junior team, but I'm sure the man would have a good idea of what's at his disposal.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/10/2014 14:55:46    1667781

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Almost got heartburn there for a minute - until I put the thread in context :)

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2596 - 28/10/2014 16:14:20    1667814

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Lixnaw v Bruff
It's was not long ago Bruff we senior
They were playing hurling this year in intermediate premier a group 8 teams that were all well capable of beating each other.Bruff normally keep it tight in first half and they hit the ground running in 2nd half.
If lixnaw are up a few points at halftime and try and kill off Bruff start of second half if they don't Bruff could win handy

oll (Limerick) - Posts: 693 - 28/10/2014 18:29:14    1667855

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Happens in Ulster too. Take the Junior club championship for example - the Antrim team got put out in the semi by a Monaghan team. But, the Antrim team were originally in the Junior B in Antrim which they won and progressed in to the Antrim Junior which they won and got in to Ulster. The Monaghan team on the other hand won the Monaghan Senior Championship and then chose to go in to the Ulster Junior. So in the Ulster semi you had 4th tier in Antrim against 1st Tier in Monaghan with only a goal between them at the final whistle.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 28/10/2014 19:22:33    1667875

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I remember the Monaghan senior champions playing Fr O Neills (Cork junior chmapions) a couple of years ago in an All-Ireland semi in Carlow. Fr O'Neills (who are decent in must be said) beat them well. Fr O Neills would have played a lot more matches and are a hurling mainly club. The Monaghan chmapions (Clontibret I believe) were predominantly football (Rory Woods was playing with them) and played less hurling than O'Neills. It was not really a surprise.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/10/2014 19:44:23    1667883

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Aye suppose from a point it makes sense though the current Monaghan Senior Champions lost the Ulster Intermediate final a couple of years back so can play a grade up. The Antrim Champions though are a dual club and a small parish and were not expected to win the Antrim Junior title plus it could be a long time again before they are at the Ulster stage again. The Monaghan Champions have been regular enough participants in Ulster over the years.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 28/10/2014 20:01:26    1667890

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It wasn't that an unbelievable victory. There are some fine hurlers in Kerry. Remember it isn't that long ago in 1993 that Kerry beat Waterford in the Munster Championship. Shane Brick was among the finest hurlers in Munster at one stage.

However Ballyhea were missing Neil Ronan and Pa O'Callaghan. That's not making any excuses but these two players would be a big hit on any club team. I think it is a total disrespect to Kerry hurling to claim this is a shock though. Kerry champions in the past while they did not win senior club championship games rarely got battered. Other counties concentrating on one sport could take a look at this and see what a big of hard work and effort reaps.

The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 28/10/2014 20:48:45    1667904

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Exactly bull.The only surprise is there are some surprised at this.Especially the Kerry posters.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/10/2014 20:56:58    1667905

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