fabio8
County: USA
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player of the year is judge on inter county performances..some dub fans cant just change the criteria because it is one of their players doing all this stuff at club when you consider the amount of great footballers in smaller counties whos exploits are continously ignored..o donoghue the clear player of the year winner..connolly a brilliant footballer and probably deserves 2nd place for his performances for dublin

its called footballer of the year is it not?
its judged on all gaelic football played for the year
not just september you do realise that?
so in your book lynch shouldnt get a nomination sure he only performed in the league
and no players from counties outside the all ireland semi finalists deserve an all star
come on fabio, make up your mind

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/10/2014 17:17:38    1665847

Horsebox77
County: Kerry
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Completely agree with my fellow Countyman.

this is like the eurovision
and 12 points goes toooooo our neighbours sloveniaaaaaaa

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/10/2014 17:18:29    1665850

If club form is a consideration for POTY

Ryan McHugh scored 4 goals and something in his last club championship game which puts in perspective performances in club
games - He was only abel to manage 2 against a top team like Dublin

That said he was MOTM in Ulster Final and MOTM v Dublin

but I guess there is more clips on You Tube of St Vincents than there is of Kilcar

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 21/10/2014 17:22:23    1665853

Hill
I don't agree that connoly was the best player for Dublin in the league, I put Flynn cluxton and even o'gara before him, and unfortunately we can't judge him on his championship performances as he only played against div 2 and div 3 teams and still didn't get to the final, but I will say he was the best player in the club championship, but that's probably because gooch got injured ;-)
P.s I might have gone a bit far there putting o'gara ahead of him in the league :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/10/2014 17:40:25    1665864

KingdomBoy1
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Hill
I don't agree that connoly was the best player for Dublin in the league, I put Flynn cluxton and even o'gara before him, and unfortunately we can't judge him on his championship performances as he only played against div 2 and div 3 teams and still didn't get to the final, but I will say he was the best player in the club championship, but that's probably because gooch got injured ;-)
P.s I might have gone a bit far there putting o'gara ahead of him in the league :-)

at that rate james o donoughue can only be judged on performance against two teams with that thinking
and strange that he struggled when he played a lowly division 2 team such as donegal?
i dont get the whole you have to play division one teams
as the same people who say this then turn around and say the league dont matter
so why does it suddenly matter after the competition is over haha
sure the gooch wouldnt have gotten to the final so he couldnt be judged on his performances as he was only playing
micky mousers in munster
by your way of thinking haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/10/2014 19:58:48    1665918

Hill
Ya your right, James would probably be judged on his games against cork and the 2 games against mayo, he score 10 against cork in the Munster final away to cork 8 from play, and he scored 1-03 against mayo in the first game and 2-06 in the replay with IMO the best defender in Ireland marking him, not too shabby, and it wasn't that he couldn't score against Donegal but it was a case that he was told to pull his man out the field and it worked as Paul geaney got a goal out of it, there isn't many forwards that would sacrifice their own game for the good of the team but he did and that says a lot about him.
And we'll never know now if goochie would have got crokes to the final or not unfortunately , but he's still young so he might get 1 more chance at it.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 21/10/2014 20:53:31    1665952

Must say DC is as good as is in Ireland at present Pity we in Donegal could not get hold of him ... Would make a great link man with M Murphy.
Another player who is underestimated is Conor MC Manus, probably as good as JoD and even DC.
As regards the Gooch one thing I must say is :: the man took a lot of stick early in the 00's against Armagh and TYRONE but He never flinched. Over the next few years will JOD be able to do what the GOOCH did. ?? I have a feeling tough physical defenders will shut him out of the game. And as regards him sacrifing his own game for the good of the team on AI final day , M Murphy has been doing that for Donegal All season

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 21/10/2014 21:26:10    1665978

One of the best,but I much prefer Paul Flynn

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 22/10/2014 09:41:45    1666020

Sam
Your right , Michael Murphy has sacrificed is game all year for Donegal , it just goes to show what a team player he really is.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/10/2014 10:29:29    1666033

KingdomBoy1
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Hill
Ya your right, James would probably be judged on his games against cork and the 2 games against mayo, he score 10 against cork in the Munster final away to cork 8 from play, and he scored 1-03 against mayo in the first game and 2-06 in the replay with IMO the best defender in Ireland marking him, not too shabby, and it wasn't that he couldn't score against Donegal but it was a case that he was told to pull his man out the field and it worked as Paul geaney got a goal out of it, there isn't many forwards that would sacrifice their own game for the good of the team but he did and that says a lot about him.
And we'll never know now if goochie would have got crokes to the final or not unfortunately , but he's still young so he might get 1 more chance at it.

so thats why your bringing in this have to play division 1 teams malarky
because they were o donoughues best games
theres always an angle with ye kerry folk haha to suit your own arguements
cute kerry boyos haha
lets be honest against donegal they knew he was going to be heavily marked
so they knew it was pointless having him as their focal point so they had to try something else
thankfully for them it worked but it could have easily backfired and if donegal went in front by 3 or 4
im sure you would have seen o donoughue resume his normal role in an attempt to get them back into it.
haha crokes wouldnt have won it they had their chances

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/10/2014 11:20:33    1666047

Hill
I should have been a solicitor with an argument like that :-) but il stick to the farming for now ha ha. No in fairness though may the best man win which ever 1 of them it is, wouldn't it be funny now if it turned out to be Neil McGee after all this.
And I won't give up gooch getting that club medal yet, he's still only 31.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 22/10/2014 13:27:44    1666095

Clondalkin.

You clearly missed JOD hard work and building Kerry attacks in the final.
He was deliberately played out from goal to influence the game whic he did.
You've not stopped going on about Kerry since we became champions.
Get over it Kerry were the the best in 2014.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 22/10/2014 13:51:55    1666106

Connolly is the most complete player in the game at the moment. James O Donoghue and Michael Murphy are the other two names that seem to be getting thrown around in this debate. How Mcguiness used Murphy over the last few years is really doing him an injustice. Murphy is at his best inside the 40. when he moves outside that area his influence on a game seriously dwindles. As for O Donoghue, he is a fantastic man to score, goals in particular. That is his forte. In saying that I won't deny that he contributed massively in the final whilst he wasn't a prolific scorer on the day. Connolly stands out for the sole reason he does everything these two do and a lot more. Connollys ability in the air is fantastic. He is undoubtedly the best two footed kicker of a ball around(maybe just ahead of Gooch). His work rate is phenomenal. His ability to mix it physically is 2nd to none. His long range shooting ability and his ability to score goals is immense. he is also a fantastic playmaker who can open up teams with his passing. i honestly don't think there is a footballer at the moment with a skill set to touch him.

JohnMitchel (Dublin) - Posts: 178 - 22/10/2014 14:00:37    1666113

Connolly is a fine player. O'Donoghue has definitely been player of the year though.

Treaty_Exile (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 22/10/2014 14:27:01    1666123

player of the year 2014 without doubt diarmuid connolly, but the powers that be will give it to james o donoghue

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1806 - 22/10/2014 14:40:17    1666131

I can't help think that this talk of describing Connolly as 'without doubt' and 'by far' the best player in the country is a continuation of Dublin being talked of as being 'by far' and 'without doubt' the best team in the country (or of all time, according to some). How he be 'without doubt' the best player in the country when he's not the best player in the country?

Treaty_Exile (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 22/10/2014 15:03:39    1666142

exile that is just my opinion and that is what the forum is for

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1806 - 22/10/2014 15:13:40    1666148

Diarmuid Connolly is prob the best skillful player in the country at the moment.
Actually think though Paul Flynn is the best all round player in the country currently.

But if you need a match winner Diarmuid Connoly is the man for the job.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 22/10/2014 15:20:18    1666152

Not singling you out Mick. I'm having a good chuckle at a lot of the posts on this thread, mainly from Dublin posters. They're still a bit miffed that things didn't go to script this year ;-)

Treaty_Exile (Limerick) - Posts: 386 - 22/10/2014 15:21:01    1666153

O'donoghues best performances have been far better than connollys best performances this year. Connolly had a great first half against Donegal and was good for the rest of the game. Before that game dublin averaged 16 point wins in championship. Connelly was very hot and cold in these games as he missed as many as he scored. O'donoghue played class in every game except the final where he was good. People on this site can have very short memories and over the course of the COUNTY championship 2014 Odonoghue has been better

pat_custard (Meath) - Posts: 125 - 22/10/2014 15:21:36    1666154