the horror of a minority of fans missing a game or 2 because they have to play away for once?..who says all the dubs would travel anyway?..not everybody likes travelling...and anyway the chances are dublin will be playing opponents they should be beating comfortably so its not exactly an attractive match there missing...away fans regularly miss out on getting tickets due to playing away from home....i prefer grounds to be filled for matches more than anything as it looks a lot better and there is a much better atmosphere...i was merely stating it is great for a local economy to get a decent championship match..overall the system probably needs to be looked at so teams should be getting more games than they currently are

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 16/10/2014 20:18:39    1664499

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The favouritism extended to Dublin by the GAA is disgusting.

We are used as much as anyone, we are the cash cow. Thats why we are kept in croker. Dublin fans arent considered in the greater scheme of things. Only bums on seats , their is more of us and the GAA have money earmarked for certain things. Dubs playing in croker ensures that money rolls in.
They dont care about fairness, atmosphere at grounds or The Capitals fans being allowed travel to a championship game.
So forget about the favouritism tag.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 16/10/2014 22:03:33    1664553

Fabio have you been in pears park?
One end is just gravel and not in use.
The terrace at side if pitch is very hard to see any action along that side of the field as its actually almost above the sideline blocking your view of it . Behind the goal is nearly flat terrace also only a few steps. The ground is in a bad way

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/10/2014 09:58:00    1664574

In fairness hill everything you say about Pearse Park you could apply to Parnell. But the DCB have no incentive to improve it as long as they have Croker to play all their games in

tonorio (Offaly) - Posts: 608 - 17/10/2014 10:40:02    1664594

Fabio have you been in pears park?
One end is just gravel and not in use.
The terrace at side if pitch is very hard to see any action along that side of the field as its actually almost above the sideline blocking your view of it . Behind the goal is nearly flat terrace also only a few steps. The ground is in a bad way
17/10/2014 10:40:02

The ground is not in a bad way, I've stood in that terrace and never had a problem, good covered accommodation also. It wouldn't take much to terrace over the gravel bank behind one goal. In all fairness hill it's a bit hypocritical to be criticising other grounds when you see what's on offer at Donnycarney

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 17/10/2014 11:12:48    1664603

Tonorio

Oh I have no problem agree with you there regarding championship matches Parnell park ain't fit for holding them too. The point being Parnell isn't being discussed or looking to host them where is pearse park is

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/10/2014 12:08:58    1664627

Richie

You stood on it at a small attendance I stood at a full house and couldn't see anything along that side of the pitch.
The travel end is still the same nearly 10 years on.
Nobody argues that Parnell ain't fit to hold championship matches so how am I being hypocritical? It can't hold league matches for Dublin never mind championship . Your the one looking for similar grounds to host championship matches so if anything your being hypocritical about this

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/10/2014 12:12:45    1664629

@hill16 - nothing wrong with Pearse Park and I've watched games there from the terrace and the stand.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 861 - 17/10/2014 13:18:00    1664670

Ailteoir

Yet again was the ground full to a capacity crowd?
That's what we are talking about here.
We had Kilkenny return tickets for the all Ireland final this year because they were in the corners of the canal end and people agreed they were poor vantage points Haha yet pearse park where you cannot see the line along where you stand is perfectly fine to hold capacity crowds?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 17/10/2014 13:25:40    1664672

@hill - I've watched games in Pearse Park when it was full, to the League game between ourselves and Longford last year when the stand was half full and never had any problem.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 861 - 17/10/2014 13:31:47    1664673

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Richie

You stood on it at a small attendance I stood at a full house and couldn't see anything along that side of the pitch.
The travel end is still the same nearly 10 years on.
Nobody argues that Parnell ain't fit to hold championship matches so how am I being hypocritical? It can't hold league matches for Dublin never mind championship . Your the one looking for similar grounds to host championship matches so if anything your being hypocritical about this

For your information I stood on that terrace at Longford v Dublin with my Glasnevin friend and had a fine view, as did he, as did everyone apparently because I heard no complaints. Parnell Park is fit to hold hurling championship matches it seems and it can hold hurling league matches........oh wait silly me we've been down that road that's rights their not really Dubs so why bother looking at them, hypocritical is right............

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 17/10/2014 13:50:23    1664685

its well able to hold championship matches..and hosted the all ireland final minor replay also which was a full house and 0 issues...its not croke park but sure what ground is?...its a good ground more than able for hosting championship matches

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 17/10/2014 15:27:59    1664724

when is the last time you were in pearse park hill on a side note?..it recently got done up more

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 17/10/2014 15:29:11    1664725

Like AthCliath and I pointed out......

Fairness!? The GAA or sport in general is never fair.

They couldn't give a hoot about counties like Longford, Carlow, Offaly etc!

They don't give a hoot about Dublin. We are railroaded to Croke Park as its good for the GAA coffers.

Dublin don't decide where or when they play. They just turn up where they are told.

If people don't like Dublin playing in Croke Park, take it up with your county boards. They keep sending us there.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 17/10/2014 17:33:29    1664774

I agree with hill in regards to navan. They need to go the Killarney route and get a find big terrace at the Navan O'Mahoney's end connecting the side terrace to the "stand". But before they do that they need to level the stand and build a proper stand similar to what they have in tullamore or similar to say the upper deck of croke park. Another example wold be the stand in parnell park but a bit bigger obviously.

The existing terrace on 1 side is fine and won't need to be touched for another 20 years. Now doing up those 2 sides may be enough but if they want to go the whole way you could do the other grass bank at the hospital end. Loads of room here for a big stand and I'd suggest terracing for the bottom half and seating for the top half. like Munster do in thomand park.

They could bring the attendance up to 35k. This is a sensible option especially when you consider they were talking about building something similar out on the M50. Oh and if they'd any brains they get this plan going and use it as a venue for the WC bid. Would make getting funds even easier.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 17/10/2014 17:35:19    1664776

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joxer...pearse park is already a decent sized provincial stadium reduced for health and safety reasons but a good ground as you may have seen from if you were there in 2006?..why is it always about dublin?..what about the fans of other teams?..why should they be forced to travel to croke park while dublin fans can attend easily?..you seem to be only concerned with dublin and are ignoring the various issues other supporters have

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What's your definition of decent sized? Pearse holds 11000. 14000 Dublin season ticket holders are GUARANTEED tickets for this game. 14 into 11 doesn't go. If the GAA renege on their season ticket Ts&Cs they will end up in court. This is simple stuff. It takes me nearly 2 hrs to get to Croker so it's not 'easy' for all of us and we have no objection to playing outside Croker. Many of us were in Derry, Omagh, Mullingar twice this year. No problems but if I pay for a tkt then I want a tkt. Finally Leinster teams have it within their powers to get Dublin out of CP yet they never do. Why is that?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 17/10/2014 18:47:25    1664795

richie

well you obviously got a good vantage point as i was about 10 people deep and couldnt see anything along the line of the terrace as it was actually above the line almost. parnell park is fit to hold hurling qualifiers an league hurling matches yes just like any other ground in the country, but your talking about dublin footballers here when pearse park is the topic not hurlers.
bigger crowd obviously .
dont be so childish i go to all the hurlers matches aswell as football so dont pressume to know me.
i make a valid point on players plying like o dwyer who have know affiliation to dublin
i notice you didnt find anything to reply to the fact i mentioned colm cooper when talking about him ever playing football
for dublin, but then that wouldnt suit your agrument so you choose to ignore that i suppose.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/10/2014 10:40:08    1664852

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its well able to hold championship matches..and hosted the all ireland final minor replay also which was a full house and 0 issues...its not croke park but sure what ground is?...its a good ground more than able for hosting championship matches

yes between teams with smaller support bases.
if it only holds 11 thousand it obviously cant hold the demand for a dublin football championship game.
if it was recently renovated then why was the capacity reduced from 2006?
and why was the far end with gravel that day still the exact same when i saw it this year on tv?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/10/2014 10:42:32    1664857

jack goff

yes good points there, the only problem for navan is them tolls
having two in short distance is robbery
and driving large volumes of traffic into the likes of kells and dunshaughlin to avoid them
on match days may cause the gaa problems staging large crowds travelling from other counties

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/10/2014 10:47:35    1664858

well o dwyer is based in dublin and under gaa rules that entitles him to play for them similar to any club player playing in dublin which most big dublin clubs have.....joker im talking about changing the system where that pass would not gurantee a ticket for championship match away from home...what has changed so much since 2006?..dublin had a better support base then did they not and where was the uproar?..not everybody will be prepared to travel to games against teams they should be beating comfortably so i dont really buy that argument..the system needs to change in my opinion as as it currently stands the dubs simply wont be taken out of croke park hence the reasoning for the parnell pass and so on

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 18/10/2014 19:58:23    1665023