Tonights draw highlights the hilarious system that no doubt suits certain counties. Kerry won a great All Ireland this year. However surely the different paths the two 2014 finalists have to follow in 2015 should make people see that whilst Kerry will always compete the system is hilariously in there favour. Donegal have to beat tyrone and armagh and still not be in a provincial final as for Kerry ..... well :-)

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 09/10/2014 19:52:33    1661996

An abolute joke ---- can you image if Kerry had to meet Cork in a first round and the looser would have to travel...in the back door

No we can't let that happen,
easy for Kerry!!!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 09/10/2014 19:58:26    1662003

Cuchulainn35 took the words out of my mouth.

An absolute joke.

Again Tyrone would have to win 2 knockout matches against top Ulster Teams to get to the same stage Kerry are guaranteed to start at.

An absolute joke setup for the competition which is making an absolute joke of the sport.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 09/10/2014 19:21:40    1662011

It is a joke that Donegal will have to beat Tyrone and ourselves just to the same stage as Kerry, who are automatically in the last 16 already. I would still rather be in our position though, I'm feeling excited for a great match v Tyrone/Donegal. I would imagine it would be difficult for a Kerryman to get excited for their 1st match.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 09/10/2014 19:25:26    1662017

must say I don't think Kerry would win ulster with the draw Donegal/tyrone got don't think Donegal/tyrone can either monaghan look like favs think tyrone /Donegal best bet back door 4 hard games if they were to be successful.Before Kerry/munster people start we blessed in Connacht aswell I know!

thebadbounce (Galway) - Posts: 87 - 09/10/2014 19:28:42    1662020

Such an obsession with Kerry. Cork, Mayo and Dublin Region have similar tasks in landing a provincial title. There will be at least 4 Ulster quarter-finalists. Ulster championship like Division 1 is great ahead of the All-Ireland series.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7847 - 09/10/2014 20:06:30    1662057

legend I know now what u mean by winter well easy winter when u know your in last 12 without beating a top team beat cork u in last 8 time we all woke up can u comment on my previous post thoughts on where Kerry would be at if they had a draw like tyrone/Donegal in terms of how fit u need to be pickin up injuries etc etc

thebadbounce (Galway) - Posts: 87 - 09/10/2014 20:29:39    1662085

We need an open draw... the only fair way...

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 09/10/2014 20:38:18    1662093

Ah it brings joy to my heart to see so many jealous types whinging and moaning a few short weeks after kerry being crowned champions. Most champions of their sport would get some credit but not in dear old Ireland. Countless anti-kerry threads have been created since we brought Sam the boyo home and it brings a big smile to my face. Regarding different teams paths to the later stages of the championship, take this year for example. Dublin had to beat no serious team to reach the last four(nobody can disagree with that). Mayo had two legit games in beating Galway and Cork. Donegal beat Monaghan, Armagh and Dublin. Meanwhile Kerry played four games against Cork,Galway Mayox2 and Donegal, while being underdogs going into most of them games. Along with the majority of people in Kerry I couldn't care less about all the sour grapes, we know we earned it 110% and anything else is begrudgery. Most people in their hearts know its true but don't have the liaroidi to admit it. No threads created about Dublin, Mayo, or Corks easy paths to croker. Pure jealousy, simple as that.

ky4sam2014 (Kerry) - Posts: 32 - 10/10/2014 10:05:36    1662214

Well said ky4sam2014! Ciarraí abú!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7847 - 10/10/2014 11:40:09    1662293

Hear hear K4Sam, hitting the old proverbial nail squarely on the head!

As I've already stated in this trend, Dublin cruise through Leinster and in hurling Kilkenny have probably the easiest route of any side in Gaelic games to reach a final. Not a word about it!!

Really shows up the people on here who can't bear seeing the Kingdom come out on top as always! We'd make it out of any province we were put into, give me regular games every 2-3 weeks to hone our team rather then the madness of 5 or 6 week breaks we must endure in Munster before a decent challenge!

Looking forward to a potential Munster final against Cork in Killarney next July. Always one of the great days of the Championship and a far better spectacle than the provincial finals in the other three provinces. An Riocht Abu!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 10/10/2014 11:55:28    1662311

I think ye Kerry men are a bit harsh judging the rest of the countries views on a few whinging noises from certain quarters. It's bad enough that Kerry have started to mimic some terrible footballing styles, you don't want to mimic the chip on the shoulder as well! The point ye make is a good one though - of the 4 winners only Mayo came close to defeat in their province in 2014, yet Kerry still came out on top in September. Let's hope 2014 puts an end to the stupid slurs about soft All-Irelands.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/10/2014 12:06:07    1662319

I am not a Kerry man by any means but I admire the love and passion that Kerry people have for football. I also am of the opinion Kerry would continue to compete in any province, if they would win All Irelands as often as they have.... Im not so sure but one thing is for sure they would still have the highest on the roll of honour. Kerry people do not have to care what others think in fact every sport has a team others see as the benchmark and counties beating Kerry in All Ireland finals is special. I enjoy my county competing against Kerry and have been lucky to see them beating Kerry in a final. The team of 2014 were a joy to watch as will the team of 2015 with cooper and walsh back. Let me say it is not jealousy or begrudging of Kerry's great success to suggest that football has moved on, the sam maguire is all that matters. With that comes a responsibility on the GAA to form a system that is fair to all. Really can Kerry people honestly look at the two paths the 2014 finalists need to follow in 2015 and suggest that is fair ?. I actually believe Kerry would enjoy big games early in the year, I am not one but people will always question Kerry's All Irelands whilst the current system remains which actually the kingdom should push to change but maybe they deep down know they are guaranteed a quarter final every year so why would turkeys vote for Christmas :-) when training can be geared towards August for a six week push.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 10/10/2014 12:31:53    1662340

I don't think anyone thinks that Kerry didn't deserve the AI this year. You beat everyone in front of you fair and square, no argument here. But it is rare to hear a Kerry man admit that a system that sees Kerry enter the championship next year a full two rounds before Tyrone/Donegal does give them an advantage. Of course the likes of Mayo have a similar advantage but don't make use of it, so all credit to Kerry.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 10/10/2014 12:34:12    1662342

Losers of Ulster quarters should go to Connaught and Munster championship draws.

supermon (Monaghan) - Posts: 1073 - 10/10/2014 12:59:09    1662353

Sam1994

If Dublin, Cork or Mayo won the all ireland this year there wouldn't be half the threads created against the champions of the sport.You'd have to admit that. When Dublin won last year was there any mention of their stroll through leinster..i doubt it.
I don't log on here much due to some of the nature of the comments but anytime I open the forum its one thread after another lambasting Kerry. I haven't seen many on Kilkenny and their short path to the final and I wouldn't want to either. I can go back through the last few weeks and list all the anti kerry topics for you if you want but it would take a week to list everything. As I said before its 100% jealousy or begrudery whatever you want to call it. I think its funny actually, grown men degrading this kerry team due to the inadequacies of their own county. 37 and counting..deal with it

ky4sam2014 (Kerry) - Posts: 32 - 10/10/2014 13:10:41    1662358

Ky4Sam2014 I was actually trying to say that Kerry are worthy champions and should embrace change. I did laugh out loud at the mention of Kilkenny now they are seen as a truely great GAA county with the current manager the best any GAA games has ever produced. Kilkenny have embraced change ie allowing Galway in with other Leinster counties and they do not run looking favours from there provincial council. Yes they have a short path mainly because hurling has acknowledged the old tradional provincial system has failed and tweeked it. Kilkenny are respected all over Ireland for sheer brillaince and acknowledging the system needed to change. They have stayed at the top despite this and well certain football counties will never allow this to happen in football. Again not Kerrys fault but there is inbalance in the football championship and yes counties will throw jealousy comments at people who see change as neccesary but the facts are the facts and it is the reason why no football county in certain provinces will be seen in the same light as Kilkenny until a fair system is in place.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 10/10/2014 13:59:40    1662379

OK Sam, in their respective provinces Mayo and Dublin have dominated the last number of years, do you think Leinster and Connaught should be changed??

Or is it just Kerry you propose to have a tougher route??

If we were to switch with Dublin or Mayo I think we'd find it just as easy to make the knockout stages if not easier as we wouldn't have to play Cork

ky4sam2014 (Kerry) - Posts: 32 - 10/10/2014 14:18:08    1662390

Cork are a hurling county. I am not lambasting Kerry here there situation is probably highlighted because of there success and the fact they are the only football county in Munster. To answer your question yes the whole system needs root and branch reform for the sake of the sport and that includes all counties. The fact Kerry and Cork allowed their province to have seeding systems in place sort of puts them up for ridicule. Honestly I admire Kerry football and I would love to see them along with all the top counties in high energy championship battles throughout the country for the duration of the summer. It would improve the sport and actually although scary as it may seem for the rest improve Kerry even further but all counties would have a sense that the system is fair.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 10/10/2014 14:34:45    1662393

OK Sam thanks for your answer.

Cork may be a hurling county but i'd honestly their footballers ahead of any county Mayo or Dublin have to play in recent years but others may disagree.

Again thanks for your reply at least you tried to be somewhat constructive in your comments.

ky4sam2014 (Kerry) - Posts: 32 - 10/10/2014 14:45:04    1662395