What other games do you want BCC to show?
The games are already on Sky/RTE. Doubt in the slightest that BBC are hostile to showing GAA. By equal coverage what more do you want BBC to show of gaelic football?

What about showing a hurling match or God forbid Ormond a match that has two non ulster teams!

I'll not get into the BBC's attitude to GAA as you seem to be very well educated in that regard.

Oh and btw there are still only a minority of nationalists going to Ulster rugby matches, it is increasing mind you but when we have someone from West Belfast or Crossmaglen or Dungiven playing for Ulster then we can talk about it heading in the direction of being truly inclusive.

Oh and as it happens i follow Munster!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/10/2014 15:30:43    1659051

Fair enough Htaem but they have to make a better effort. At
least show 10-15 games a year and cover a few more games
with highlights packages?? The present level 5 games a year-is
completely unacceptable.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 01/10/2014 15:36:42    1659055

REDANDBLACK30

I don't doubt that they could make a better effort but I don't remember them ever really showing any interest in the Gaa, which is unfortunate because we have two great sports to showcase but there you go.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/10/2014 15:53:26    1659064

Htaem your right they never showed a great interest but they
at least used to have a decent highlights programme The
Championship ( it had a great theme tune and everything!!).
The point is they seem to be getting worse instead of better
and they might even pull the plug entirely in the next few
years.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 01/10/2014 16:02:28    1659069

BBC NIs coverage of GAA games has always been begrudging, while every soccer match with 2 men + a dog attending is covered, and rugby is portrayed as a great cross-community game, which it isn't. But we've thrived without the BBC and it's their loss

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 01/10/2014 16:15:07    1659076

01/10/2014 15:22:33
REDANDBLACK30
Ormond I want them to show 20 matches a year. Parity with
Ulster Rugby. That would be the full Ulster Championship
matches, Ulster hurling final , 4 qualifiers, 2 quarter
finals,2 football semi finals, one hurling semi and the All Ireland finals in
hurling and football. 20 Matches a year????? Where are you going??? That'll never happen. There isn't enough interest for that to happen. Where is the potential market for that many games. It isn't viable especially with Sky and RTE already showing a significant number of those games.
Is their really enough interest in showing every Ulster championship football game? Is their really the demand for the Ulster hurling final to be shown.
01/10/2014 15:30:32
Htaem
There's lots of things I want to REDANDBLACK but I'm not going to get them and I seriously doubt you're going to get BBC to show 20 Gaa matches a year, especially seen as how Sky are now in the equation. +1

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/10/2014 20:10:24    1659161

What other games do you want BCC to show?
The games are already on Sky/RTE. Doubt in the slightest that BBC are hostile to showing GAA. By equal coverage what more do you want BBC to show of gaelic football?
01/10/2014 15:30:43 bumpernut
What about showing a hurling match or God forbid Ormond a match that has two non ulster teams!
I'll not get into the BBC's attitude to GAA as you seem to be very well educated in that regard.
Oh and btw there are still only a minority of nationalists going to Ulster rugby matches, it is increasing mind you but when we have someone from West Belfast or Crossmaglen or Dungiven playing for Ulster then we can talk about it heading in the direction of being truly inclusive.
Oh and as it happens i follow Munster! What hurling do you want them to show? What hurling game is of big enough interest to the viewing public of the BBCNI that they should purchase the rights to?
There is a large proportion of nationalists attending ulster rugby games and it is a truly inclusive sport
Why do you not follow your own province in rugby?
01/10/2014 15:36:42 REDANDBLACK30
Fair enough Htaem but they have to make a better effort. At
least show 10-15 games a year and cover a few more games
with highlights packages?? The present level 5 games a year-is
completely unacceptable. 15 games will never happen. There isn't enough demand for that many games to be covered
01/10/2014 16:15:07 befair
BBC NIs coverage of GAA games has always been begrudging, while every soccer match with 2 men + a dog attending is covered, and rugby is portrayed as a great cross-community game, which it isn't. But we've thrived without the BBC and it's their loss Rugby is a cross community game how is it not?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/10/2014 20:14:25    1659164

why do you feel the need to come to the defence of rugby any time it is mentioned in a thread?..of course there is enough interest in showing every ulster football match..look at the attendances..great across the province

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 01/10/2014 20:17:22    1659165

01/10/2014 20:17:22
fabio8
why do you feel the need to come to the defence of rugby any time it is mentioned in a thread?..of course there is enough interest in showing every ulster football match..look at the attendances..great across the province I don't btw and anyway why do some people knock rugby every chance they get? I don't do the same about soccer, gaelic, or any other sport.

Why does rugby always seem to get the raw deal?
GAA don't want all games in a championship shown live as that'll affect attendances at those games which affects the GAAs coffers

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/10/2014 20:22:46    1659167

you do and rugby doesnt...it gets a lot more coverage than is usually justified yet you seem to always question the amount of coverage gaa gets?..how come you never do the same for rugby and have only positive things to say?...ulster rugby in reality hasnt that many big games..there is the european cup and a few celtic league games at present which are big with the rest meaning very little with ulster often having weak teams out in the celtic league games yet these are broadcast..all people are asking for is equal coverage..that isnt a shot against rugby its just the obvious comparison to make...you never seem to defend other sports..as 1 of the other posters pointed out there was also comments made about showing small soccer matches by the bbc so its not just rugby

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 01/10/2014 20:30:54    1659170

lads...you have all got the wrong end of the stick...bbc only have 5 games because they are only allowed to cover the games covered by rte...so the blame of lack of gaa coverage on bbc lies with the cosy arrangement rte and gaa have...of course the bbc coverage is by far more superior to the analysis that comes from donnybrook...so instead of having a go at bbc..look a bit closer to home

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 01/10/2014 20:37:30    1659172

The fact is that the BBC just about play lip service to Gaelic games be it their coverage of live games or their coverage in the sport section of the news or sports results programmes where if they do mention it they squeeze it in last after soccer, rugby, hockey, road racing, bog snorkeling or whatever else they have sent cameras out to cover. But given that the initial B stands for British I am not shocked that Nationalist sports wouldn't be high on the agenda and I have RTE and TG4 to fall back on though sometimes it seems that RTE adopt the same stance when it comes to any Ulster County who aren't Tyrone, Armagh or Donegal. But still it is wrong to say that there wouldn't be a demand for more games if they aired them as plenty up here can't get the Southern channels.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/10/2014 20:50:33    1659178

Mayotyroneman - its not the lack of live games that bothers me as I can understand that the initial interest would be games involving Ulster sides. But why not still have the highlights show ie The Championship or why is it always relegated to the end of the sports news if they even do bother. Then why take such interest as soon as there is a brawl where it becomes headline news, Jaysus even Antrim club games have made the top story. Its this approach fecks me off and to me this is well orchestrated.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/10/2014 21:00:14    1659179

Can't see rugby as a cross-community game. In south Down, there is one small rugby club,Newry. As for GAA clubs; newry Bosco, newry Shamrocks, Newry Mitchels, Ballyholland, Saval, Burren, Mayobridge, Warrenpoint, Rostrevor, Clonduff, An Riocht, Ballymartin, Longstone, Glassdruman; clubs in places that aren't even places, hope I haven't left any out! But as far as BBC is concerned we don't exist

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 01/10/2014 21:24:19    1659194

I don't think the coverage of rugby is or should be an issue. There is obviously a demand for it to be aired and therefore it should be shown. However there is also a demand for GAA, and demand is nowhere near satisfied within BBC, this is where the issue lies. They play 5 Ulster championship games and I think 1 schools games on St Paddy's day. They might have a 30 second clip on the news about a Ulster championship match at the end of the sports section. The BBC just pays lip service to the GAA and nothing more.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 02/10/2014 10:30:06    1659248

'What hurling do you want them to show? What hurling game is of big enough interest to the viewing public of the BBCNI that they should purchase the rights to?
There is a large proportion of nationalists attending ulster rugby games and it is a truly inclusive sport
Why do you not follow your own province in rugby?'

Munster/Leinster Semi Finals and Finals and All Ireland Quarter Finals, Qualifier Games, Semi-Finals and of course the Final. National League Semi Finals and Final and All Ireland Club Semi Finals and Final
I think there is sufficient amount of games there to select from dont you think? or do us 'the viewing public of BBCNI' not watch/deserve to watch hurling games given i pay as much taxes as Billy does?

Yeah rugby clubs are sprouting up all over North and West Belfast, Derry City, Crossmaglen, Dungiven, Newry etc. Not to mention all the Catholic Schools that play in the Schools Rugby Cup. There are catholic middle class kids that go to Methody and Inst etc that play rugby but it still hasnt spread to the Catholic Maintained Schools.
It is still by and large a Protestant middle class game in 'this wee pravince'. That is also the reason i dont support them. That and the singing of their beloved 'Stand up for the Ulsta Men' which still has a political connotations for me.
However, as I said earlier there are increasing numbers of catholics/nationalist going to watch them. It is changing but it will take a bit more time before it is truly classed as all inclusive both in creed and class.

Living in the frontline in Clare im sure you are well aware of all this!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 02/10/2014 10:33:10    1659250

01/10/2014 20:30:54 fabio8
you do and rugby doesnt...it gets a lot more coverage than is usually justified yet you seem to always question the amount of coverage gaa gets?..how come you never do the same for rugby and have only positive things to say?...ulster rugby in reality hasnt that many big games..there is the european cup and a few celtic league games at present which are big with the rest meaning very little with ulster often having weak teams out in the celtic league games yet these are broadcast..all people are asking for is equal coverage..that isnt a shot against rugby its just the obvious comparison to make...you never seem to defend other sports..as 1 of the other posters pointed out there was also comments made about showing small soccer matches by the bbc so its not just rugby Rugby coverage is more than justified and I don't always have positive things to say on rugby
That's very ignorant of you to say Ulster onlu have a few big games a year. I defend plenty of other sports and discuss them a lot but people will only ever see me as "the rugby supporter"
01/10/2014 21:24:19
befair
Can't see rugby as a cross-community game. In south Down, there is one small rugby club,Newry. As for GAA clubs; newry Bosco, newry Shamrocks, Newry Mitchels, Ballyholland, Saval, Burren, Mayobridge, Warrenpoint, Rostrevor, Clonduff, An Riocht, Ballymartin, Longstone, Glassdruman; clubs in places that aren't even places, hope I haven't left any out! But as far as BBC is concerned we don't exist Just 1 club in that area doesn't mean the sport isn't a cross community game. And some of the other clubs in Down are huge clubs which affects numbers elsewhere

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/10/2014 11:22:05    1659266

They don't show GAA games, just football. Has the BBC ever shown a live hurling game? In fact, you would need to go back 20 years for a hurling highlights programme even

srb (Antrim) - Posts: 344 - 02/10/2014 11:30:12    1659271

Ormond you have no notion of what you are talking about do you ?? Really ??

, What would you know about demand for games in the North ?.Bumpernut is right we want the Beeb to show hurling and football AI finals/ semi-finals regardless of who's playing .Anyone who thinks the BBC do not have an agenda against GAA is deluded .

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 02/10/2014 12:27:52    1659304

Forget it forsceal, you might as well be talking to the wall. He'll know someone that's knows someone on good authority in the beeb that in fact GAA is their main focus but due to rights they can't show them. We all know that the bile some have for our games and they are generations deep. Slowly dying but it'll be a long time before it receives the same fair and equal coverage it deserves. I don't think anybody has a problem with any sport being shown but they need a fair and equal amounted each to show they're not being biased. This is currently not the case. The fact the hurling final got a brief mention at the end of the sports section ( it and the football final the biggest sporting events to take place annually on this island) shows the contempt shown for the GAA.
Jerome Quinn has even said how hostile they are to it. But sure what would he know, he only worked in the BBC Northern Ireland sports department.

Bain (Donegal) - Posts: 470 - 02/10/2014 13:28:14    1659340