rcoward
County: Dublin
Posts: 123



Could you explain the remark about the Cork footballers and their spine and how it is related to a) what I posted and (b) the title of this thread?

I have simply no idea what point you are trying to make??


Benny, you sound very self-righteous there, please

a) don't blow a gasket on my account.
and
b) think about it for a few minutes and it'll all become clear.

Nope.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 30/09/2014 12:03:53    1658504

Greenwood,although the players you mentioned are some of the best penalty takers,i dont believe they would score more than they miss,under the current ruling.The extra 7 yards gives the opposing defenders that extra second,which is all they need,to be able to follow the trajectory of the sliotar,adjust there hurleys accordingly,and prevent the goal being scored.2/10 is a poor return,and i cannot see that statistic improving,if matters are left as they are.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 30/09/2014 12:06:45    1658508

jobber
County: Westmeath
Posts: 209

1658422 Kk man I've been at fifty all Irelands hurling and football and never enjoyed the quality as
much as this year's hurling. But on the other side I have never heard such whingeing supporters
as Kilkennys.Its not just me all you have to do is read the posts on here and see what people think.
Kerry are equally successful and do not attract this type of comment.
Cody's comment was poor.

Westmeath man, as far as I can make out on this thread, you're the only one who brought Kilkenny supporters into it. Everyone else was focusing on Cody (with maybe a few shots at Keher, O'Connor etc. as well).

And you never addressed your misquoting of Fan Larkin either.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/09/2014 12:15:11    1658517

As a Tipp man I am surprised at Brian Cody's comments

I don't hear him giving out about the incorrect penalty Kilkenny got off Diarmuid Kirwan in 2009 which was a total injustice and cost Tipp the All Ireland as in fact the correct decision was a free out to Tipp

also Padraig Maher's helmet was pulled by Richie Power in the same final and Seamie Callanan also taken out of the game with a frontal charge early on but I guess that's alright with Brian Cody, so get on with it Brian and enjoy your All-Ireland victory over Tipp while you can
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tiobraidArann (Tipperary) - Posts: 362 - 30/09/2014 12:19:05    1658520

Funny not a word about the Tipp secretary's attack on Barry Kelly?, much worse than what Cody said, the double standards from in particular Cork and Tipp fans says it all really, its nothing but green eyed jealously.

Yep thats right only Kilkenny play the game physically or on the so called edge?, the likes of Cork, Tipp, Clare, Dublin, Limerick, Waterford etc are saintly little puppy dogs who would think twice about standing on an ant?.

I seem to remember a certain Clare team from the mid nineties trained by a certain Ger Loughnane as probably the most physical team to ever grace the game of hurling, well in my time anyway, it was imo that Clare team who changed the game of hurling to be what it is today.

As for Donal Og from you guessed it Cork?, funny how he was been very selective as per usual when it comes to Kilkenny, just like Mr John Gardiners comments a few years back claiming refs officiated Kilkenny games differently, ironically yet another Cork man?. I could pick out numerous incidents over the course of the 2 games where Tipp players fouled Kilkenny men that were ignored.

kildarecat22 (Kildare) - Posts: 257 - 30/09/2014 12:54:37    1658538

kildarecat22


Cody was right to call Barry Kelly out on that decision it was plainly wrong and anyone who claims otherwise is just a rabid hater of Kilkenny.

Ok look Cody is entitled to his opinion but his opinions are inconsistent as the 09 interview with Morrissey points out and also his comments on Barry Kelly were unnecessary and looked very sour after winning the All-Ireland.

The "rabid hater of Kilkenny" part is melodramatic to say the least.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/09/2014 12:57:35    1658539

I'm surprised but can understand the mans frustration. The problem with that free is that is was totally incorrect and Kilkenny had no time to score after had Bubbles pointed.
For every other bad decision that happens during a game, a team has time to make up for it and decisions usually are not the sole factor a team will win/loose
When Barry called for the free I couldn't believe what he had done - he basically decided at the end of an epic to hand one of the teams a golden opportunity to win!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 30/09/2014 13:00:50    1658540

Thurles Blues still banging on about 2009, oh dear! But Tipp fans never moan about it of course, or so we're led to believe.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 30/09/2014 13:01:46    1658542

30/09/2014 12:57:35
Htaem
County: Meath
Posts: 5774

1658539
kildarecat22


Cody was right to call Barry Kelly out on that decision it was plainly wrong and anyone who claims otherwise is just a rabid hater of Kilkenny.

Ok look Cody is entitled to his opinion but his opinions are inconsistent as the 09 interview with Morrissey points out and also his comments on Barry Kelly were unnecessary and looked very sour after winning the All-Ireland.

The "rabid hater of Kilkenny" part is melodramatic to say the least.

Htaem, believe me "rabid" is pretty much what I meant, believe me if there was no moderation on the Hogan Stand you would get the real picture.

kildarecat22 (Kildare) - Posts: 257 - 30/09/2014 13:16:31    1658552

Everybody here is doing double standards including myself.

Typical Irish boy ya cant bate us all the same whether were from Tipp , Cork , KK or back fields of Kildare.

Hypocrites the lot of us.

Ashamed we should be. 10 Hail Mary's for everyone.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 30/09/2014 13:17:59    1658554

Why don't people start a thread on how cynical Cork are and how JBM goes whinging to the media when Cork lose?
Why don't people start a thread on how cynical Tipp are and how Eamon O'Shea and the Tipp county secretary whinge about refs?
ditto Galway, Clare, Leitrim, London and Warwickshire

Its an open forum and I am sure all of those threads will turn up the same number of examples- we are already hearing about them after all.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 30/09/2014 13:25:10    1658562

Think weve all gone off the thread topic slightly,including myself.So far id say its 80% against Codys comments.Interesting to see if the CCCC will reply to this issue.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 30/09/2014 13:55:18    1658579

A classless act to say the least.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/09/2014 14:45:10    1658606

Cue
Correct we have drifted off topic but while the majority believe Cody was wrong to have a go at Barry Kelly I think people should take a step back and look at this objectively. While all AI successes are sweet I would imagine KK's tenth on Saturday tops the lot. Since their defeat to Cork last year they have listened to all in sundry saying that this team was finished and they had their day and the majority of pundits,keyboard warriors and journalists delighted in this as they looked forward to a new era after Clare's terrific win last Sept. Let's be honest everybody outside of KK while hugely respectful of their acheivements longed for change and for KK to dissappear from the top table for a few years. But that is not the Cody way.. They regrouped shook up the backroom team added a few new players and they do what they do best they start winning hurling matches again. I think that's why Cody had the rant at Kelly, so much effort, time and committment went into this to prove the doubters wrong and for a decision like that at the end of an epic encounter to effectively hand Tipp the oppurtunity to snatch the game at the death. Just think they wanted this one so badly. But no doubt this one is his greatest yet...Agree with Ballydalane he should retract "criminal" from his outburst.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 30/09/2014 14:48:47    1658609

Greenwood,i agree with everything uve said.Im a huge admirer of Kilkenny hurling,especially what they have achieved in last 20 years.I tipped them to win All Ireland at start of year.I bever subscribed to the concensus that they were a spent force.Looking at last Saturdays new half back line of P Walsh,K Joyce and K Buckley,the doubters may be proven wrong for a few years yet.These funky felines are going nowhere!

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 30/09/2014 15:03:57    1658614

Why should Kilkenny be an exception to prove they are a finished team ?? I posted earlier but don't think my comments made it up here for whatever reason but many a team has lost important games because of a ref decision.

When it was done to us in 2009 Tipp were bad losers and all that crap. Told we cudnt take our beating and to shut up whinging. We won comprehensively the following year to prove our doubters wrong that we were the better team.

Still to this day Cody will not admit the penalty in 2009 was not a penalty but he will come out and say that a free is not a free because it was awarded against his team.

It's just a pity Bubbles didn't point that free after-all then I'd love to have seen his reaction. Anyway 2015 is a new year and it will be a different referee being talked about next year.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 30/09/2014 15:11:50    1658615

Cue
While we all debate the wrongs and rights of Cody's rant at Barry Kelly I suppose everybody here should remember that we are all human and if ever we needed reminding that it is afterall only a game just a glance at the main page and the dreadful news of the tragic deaths of two Gaels taken in their prime. Condolences to their families and friends.

Greenwood (Meath) - Posts: 210 - 30/09/2014 15:38:13    1658626

Thurlesblues-maybe instead of harking back once again to 2009 you could address the issue of the phantom penalty awarded last Sunday plus the two awarded in the drawn game. And as you're on about helmet pulling remember Paddy Stapleton had a little tug at Richie Power's helmet in the drawn game (still not as bad as what happened Richie in the 2012 semi-final but surely worthy of some form of censure). As we're also on about use of the spare hand Donal Óg of all people took the time to highlight this tactic in a Sunday game episode before the drawn AI Final by showing six clips of same from different games. Not one involved a Kk player. Not saying it doesn't go on but to suggest for one second the Cats are the only ones at it is naive in the extreme. On a final note kudos to Brian Cody for speaking his mind. If persons involved in the GAA from Cork and Tipperary are allowed to have their opinion on Barry Kelly I see no earthly reason why what's sauce for the goose can't also be a meat accompaniment for the gander.

ironmaiden (Kilkenny) - Posts: 28 - 30/09/2014 16:04:27    1658632

I'm surprised but can understand the mans frustration. The problem with that free is that is was totally incorrect and Kilkenny had no time to score after had Bubbles pointed.
For every other bad decision that happens during a game, a team has time to make up for it and decisions usually are not the sole factor a team will win/loose
When Barry called for the free I couldn't believe what he had done - he basically decided at the end of an epic to hand one of the teams a golden opportunity to win!

Ban how in god's name can you understand the man's frustration, they have just won yet another All Ireland, and here he is moaning about a free from a completely different game, which could have cost his team the game, but didn't. Kilkenny are deserved All Ireland champions yet again, so why Cody feels the need to give out about Barry kelly is beyond me, Cody is marking Kelly's card for any Kilkenny games that he may ref next year. There is also no doubt that Kilkenny get away with more fouls than any other team in hurling, so time for Cody to thank his lucky stars that refs are so lenient towards his team.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 30/09/2014 16:27:36    1658643

kildarecat22

Htaem, believe me "rabid" is pretty much what I meant, believe me if there was no moderation on the Hogan Stand you would get the real picture.

I think the free was harsh aswell but that's irrelevant, refs make decisions good and bad, that's sport, it happens, the issue here is Cody's harsh response, do you not accept that his comments were totally unnecessary? especially after winning the AI.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 30/09/2014 16:33:40    1658647