fielder
County: Donegal
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Unbelieveable.

After The Dublin victory people throughout the country were rightly praising this Donegal side for what they have achieved after playing brilliantly to knock out last year all ireland champions.
One game later and the critics come flying in again saying that they are One trick pony team that is terrible for the Gaa.

As I said, unbelievable.
Proud of my team and county. 7


exactly what i said after the semi final regarding dublin
people wanted us split in two
we had too much finances, we were going to dominate for years
then we lost one match and lone behold
the same people say we are one dimensional
tacticaly nieve, wont win anything playing attacking football
and need a new full back line
pay no attention to these pundits and people alike
you dont judge a player on one game so why would you judge a team on one day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/09/2014 21:44:39    1654923

No we are not.

We have been beaten 4 times in 24 games under mcguinness. Thats a very very strong record.

I think that it would be disingenuous to kerry to say that we should have won it. Credit their defense, and tackling, and they showed good ambition when they needed to in the second half. The goal happened at a time when they were showing very strong ambition to get scores.

Re our own system, skill, etc, there is a strong argument that we should have pushed harder in the last 5 minutes but didnt, but having said this, we created a goal chance and almost snatched a draw.

We did not look like we had the same zip as we had v dublin, or against monaghan for instance.

We only conceded a single free in the first half, (which wasnt a free btw). so defensively we were very good indeed yesterday for most of the game. Kerry were also gifted a goal, and got a soft one at the start as well. But these are the breaks you get or dont get on a given day and you have got to accept that.

One trick ponies dont last 4 seasons. We will see next year, but this could be a period of transition for us now. There are players who deserve a break and retire etc so it looks like we will be judged on the last 4 years. I am happy to have won 3 ulsters and an all ireland.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 22/09/2014 09:00:23    1654966

Donegal aren't a one trick pony but they only brought one game plan and didn't have the freedom to go for the match when it was there for the winning.

The real facts are they got their tactics wrong. Michael Murphy was their only scoring threat and he was played in defence. Donegal look dangerous when Murphy is around the goals and it defies logic to not leave him in there. Would have been better to pull McFadden out as he cannot score anymore.
Paddy McBrearty looked dangerous but spend 50 mins on the bench. No one else looking like they could beat a man and kick a point under pressure. Kickout strategy was poor.

I'm afraid McGuinness is not the all knowing football genius after all. Just a good manager who makes decisions some of which are correct and some go wrong. Yesterday it went wrong.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1122 - 22/09/2014 09:12:48    1654971

Maybe cacs Tyrone GAA people would be better off asking why they have fallen off the radar as a top team and also pose the question whether the multi million pound development at Garvaghey has been a waste of money given the lack of talent coming through?

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Great post ulsterman

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/09/2014 11:04:26    1655102

If we are a one trick pony then it is up to the field to stop a team like donegal from getting to all ireland finals, or winning ulsters etc. Otherwise talk is cheap.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 22/09/2014 11:21:34    1655124

Hindsight is 20/20. To say Murphy was our only scoring threat is ridiculous - we got 8 points from play from 7 different scorers. Kerry only got 2-4 from play with Geaney 1-1, Donaghy 1-1, Buckley 0-1 and Murphy 0-1 their only scorers.

Goals win games. If you had said before the game that Kerry would get 2 and we would get none I would have been 99% sure that Kerry would win.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 22/09/2014 11:24:27    1655127

Donegal as one trick ponies?

An All-Ireland and 3 Ulster titles.

It's a pretty good trick then.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 22/09/2014 11:26:01    1655130

I give Kerry this much, they persisted with trying to play "FOOTBALL" right to the bitter end, difficult and all as it was so in fairness "football" won out on the day. A dire final, Donegal played their AI against us, were hyped up to be a lot more than they really are after the semi.As for writing Kerry off in a final, at your peril. The worst Kerry team will always come to life when they arrive in Croke Park on an AI final day...

Mollymalone (Dublin) - Posts: 1137 - 22/09/2014 11:33:26    1655142

Mollymalone

Who wrote Kerry off?

I was quite happy at half time. To be going in level after being a goal down after a minute was a good result. We had settled well after that. The 2nd goal was ultimately the difference on the day.

You will hear the usual bs from people saying we had no 'Plan B'. What exactly is Plan B? Plan A should evolve depending on how the game goes, it is all planned for in advance - hence, Plan B should be part of Plan A. Anyway to get 4 points from play from subs in a low scoring game I would say 'Plan B' did ok, just that we had too much to do.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 22/09/2014 11:42:02    1655151

21/09/2014 21:44:39
hill16no1man
County: Dublin
Posts: 8467


exactly what i said after the semi final regarding dublin
people wanted us split in two
we had too much finances, we were going to dominate for years
then we lost one match and lone behold
the same people say we are one dimensional
tacticaly nieve, wont win anything playing attacking football
and need a new full back line
pay no attention to these pundits and people alike
you dont judge a player on one game so why would you judge a team on one day

hill16no1man, you're one of very few with a bit of sense.
Completely agree with you. If Dublin won that All Ireland yesterday, the rest of the country would be demanding a split in the capital.
But no, 70 minutes changed the public opinion on such a huge scale from accusing Dublin of having a financial advantage to "ah, its ok we don't care anymore" and "yous arnt good at the back."

Donegal caught Dublin on the hop that day lets be honest.

But the reaction after the Dublin semi final and yesterdays final are so similar in terms of both teams being praised for their hard work prior to throw in to both being criticized severely.
I just don't understand how some people, and even the likes of the RTE pundits (who lets be honest, know as much as we do but just get paid for it) can so quickly change their opinions of a team in one game in such a drastic measure. Donegal were magnificent against Dublin they said, played smart football and yet today they are recognized as the disease of gaelic football.


But this is Ireland.
A nation of begrudgers.
If we listened to these people, where would we be at?
Im hoping Donegal will be back challenging again next year against Dublin who without doubt are the county with the brightest future, something that a lot of people have quickly forgotten.

fielder (Donegal) - Posts: 137 - 22/09/2014 11:49:20    1655153

That so-called one trick has been our downfall on more than a few occasions in the past few years and has exposed our own shortcommings in that time. Even now I stil wouldn't fancy our chances if we get drawn against each other in next years championship.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/09/2014 11:53:09    1655159