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Should Finals be concluded on the day ?

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A controversial form of shootout after extra-time would bring clarity to every Master Fixture schedule. It will never happen!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7879 - 07/09/2014 20:29:25    1649249

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no there should be a reply but the issue I have is with the timekeeping only 1 minute added on at end of game (should have been at least 3) and that minute was taken up by bubbles o Dywer taking the free. Also notice the way the game was over after the free was taken. If it went over another 30 or 40 seconds would have been played A clock needs to be be bought in

Kenlim (Limerick) - Posts: 864 - 07/09/2014 20:38:21    1649255

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Definitely finish on the day, traffic carnage in Dublin.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 07/09/2014 20:46:31    1649262

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Tough on Lads like myself living abroad getting time off and booking flights etc for the final and still end up watching the final in some Irish themed pub. I believe I would feel kind of cheated.

lobbitin (Mayo) - Posts: 20 - 07/09/2014 20:51:10    1649268

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Wayne.....they playing for draw????????

Jésus wept........you dare to insult thèse player slikke that......sickening

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 07/09/2014 21:29:38    1649291

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Finals be concluded on the day ?
07/09/2014 17:36:57 waynoI
What an absolutely brilliant game, For the third year in a row, A final has gone to a replay. Outstanding entertainment. I pose the question though, Is it fair on players and fans of the participating counties that they have to make the trip again in a few weeks time for the replay?
For us as neutrals its fantastic, Its another 70 minutes of action. But for those who spent 80 quid on tickets alone today (stand), To be expected to pay that sort of money again with travel and accomodation on top of it? Just seems a bit unfair.
For me, Finals should be sorted on the day. Just my opinion though.
Yes I agree. Games should be decided on the day. It saves everyone and not as if players are not conditioned to play more. It gives more time to the clubs to play
07/09/2014 17:42:42 222
Yes they should, or at least next sunday. Why the long wait? Tickets will be half price anyway for replay. Not fair on players and club set up.
Cant be next Sunday with other finals already scheduled for Croker
Tickets will be reduced for replay but wont be half price. Will they?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/09/2014 21:35:25    1649294

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07/09/2014 18:01:27 The_Bull
Definitely should go to extra time. FA Cup, Champions League etc go to extra time. Club championships will be pushed out well into late October in these counties. All championship games should go to extra time. The 1st round games use to.
Another point aside, didn't like the way Richie Power tried to break Tipp's momentum going down with cramp. KK employed this along with hauling players down in front of goal. Cynical tactics but what else would you expect
All counties and all sides in all sports employ tactic of someone going down with cramp....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/09/2014 21:37:46    1649297

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07/09/2014 18:12:55 witnof
Why fix whats not broken!!!! Why must we follow the way of soccer??
Keep it as is, adds to the GAA.
3 gréât drawn finals in a row and people stil fine something to moan about!!!
This isn't just following the way of soccer. Its following the ways of a significant majority of other sports where games are decided on the day
Deciding on the day is better for the clubs, the fans...
why and how does it add to the GAA?
07/09/2014 18:39:09 Ban
Who in their right mind you not want to see another day of that! Same with last year.. Everyone's a winner with these replays.
No they're not. What of all the club players who's championships are delayed yet again?
07/09/2014 19:19:00 222
Can anyone tell me why the replay is not next Saturday/Sunday? Like if this was a provincial final or semi, it would be? Makes no sense to me.
Games are already scheduled for Croke Park next Sunday

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/09/2014 21:44:43    1649303

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I was thinking more on club fixtures being altered because of replays

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 07/09/2014 22:00:03    1649317

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The additional time played was a bit suspect. Ref was happy for a draw. He never thought O Dwyer would even take on a free from there. Not sure about finishing on the day but definitely should be extra time. First thing I thought when I heard the replay was in three weeks time was why not next Saturday? Really puts the two fingers up to club players who now have to wait until October to run off their championships in a blitz of matches which might even be to late for entering the provincial championship.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1134 - 08/09/2014 08:15:13    1649321

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Not a chance. Replay all the way.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 08/09/2014 10:03:19    1649384

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08/09/2014 08:15:13
tirawleybaron
The additional time played was a bit suspect. Ref was happy for a draw. He never thought O Dwyer would even take on a free from there. Not sure about finishing on the day but definitely should be extra time. First thing I thought when I heard the replay was in three weeks time was why not next Saturday? Really puts the two fingers up to club players who now have to wait until October to run off their championships in a blitz of matches which might even be to late for entering the provincial championship.
The Under 21 final is scheduled for next
08/09/2014 10:03:19
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1649384 Not a chance. Replay all the way.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/09/2014 13:28:52    1649552

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08/09/2014 08:15:13
tirawleybaron
The additional time played was a bit suspect. Ref was happy for a draw. He never thought O Dwyer would even take on a free from there. Not sure about finishing on the day but definitely should be extra time. First thing I thought when I heard the replay was in three weeks time was why not next Saturday? Really puts the two fingers up to club players who now have to wait until October to run off their championships in a blitz of matches which might even be to late for entering the provincial championship.
The Under 21 final is scheduled for next Saturday. The GAA would never schedule replay to clash with that.
Tipperary don't have huge numbers of club games to be played and divisional finals are being played this weekend so there is about 4 rounds left before county champions are decided
08/09/2014 10:03:19 icehonesty
Not a chance. Replay all the way.
why?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/09/2014 13:32:28    1649553

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I wouldn't draw the line at finals. In my opinion, every championship match should have extra time as standard. One of the greatest anti-climaxes in our games is to see two sides go at it hammer and tongs in a cauldren of noise, only for the entire atmosphere to be sucked out as soon as the final whistle sounds and the scores are tied. You could hear a pin drop when this happens, no matter how brilliant the game has been up til then, and it leaves everyonewith a strong sense of disatifaction (aside, of course, from those counting the money).

Sporting contests are, by nature, about determining a winner, and the partcipants in these great battles deserve better than to walk off the field to polite, muted applause. With games lasting only 70 minutes, we are already being shortchanged in terms of value for money when it comes to other sports, so i don't understand why we make it worse by denying us a result to go home with.

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 08/09/2014 13:57:57    1649581

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I always find draws annoying. Its an anti climax as the above poster says. Had an extra 20 mins been played yesterday we probably would have had an even greater game than the one we had.
Still though it was a great advertiesment for our game, and we might have another great game to enjoy on the 27th, and if at least some of the extra money from the replay goes into underage coaching and development then all the better.
happy to see that the replay will be on a Saturday under lights. I find it alot better than the traditional Sunday afternnon slot.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 08/09/2014 16:40:38    1649702

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Everyone but the loser wants the games finished on the day. Seriously after 70 mins of hurling yesterday you want the game decided in the next 20. Players train for 70 not 90.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 08/09/2014 16:41:39    1649704

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I wouldn't draw the line at finals. In my opinion, every championship match should have extra time as standard. One of the greatest anti-climaxes in our games is to see two sides go at it hammer and tongs in a cauldren of noise, only for the entire atmosphere to be sucked out as soon as the final whistle sounds and the scores are tied. You could hear a pin drop when this happens, no matter how brilliant the game has been up til then, and it leaves everyonewith a strong sense of disatifaction (aside, of course, from those counting the money).


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Amen to that!!

Completely agree.

It is a total anti-climax.

Fans who spend their hard earned money to go to the game to hopefully see their team lift the silverware, May now not get a ticket for the replay especially after a game like yesterday, Where demand will go up, Ticket price will go down and supply stays the same.

Players, Who are not professionals will now have to put their lives on hold for yet another 3 weeks to play another 70 minutes of hurling, Maybe more if it ends a draw again.

Eoin Larkin has to postpone his wedding FFS!! (although he probably shouldnt have booked it for the replay date but sure thats not really the point)

County boards who paid for hotels and stuff, Will have to pay again.

Homecommings and all the preperation for those (winners and losers) will have to be delayed by 3 weeks.

The only people a replay benefit, Are the cash-mad GAA, And the neutrals who dont have to worry about paying for tickets and worry about travel and accomodation.

Nonsense.

End this replay rubbish.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/09/2014 16:50:05    1649713

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Everyone but the loser wants the games finished on the day. Seriously after 70 mins of hurling yesterday you want the game decided in the next 20. Players train for 70 not 90.

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Players are well capable of going an extra 20 minutes FFS.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/09/2014 16:52:25    1649714

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Players are well capable of going an extra 20 minutes FFS.


In general I also think the All Ireland final should be decided on the day. Or if there is a replay to have it a bit sooner than 3 weeks and not on a bloody Saturday evening (All Ireland Final day on a Sunday is sacred, not some cheap Saturday night TV entertainment like Ant & Dec's Takeaway).

Having said that, yesterday I was glad of the replay cos our lads were out on their feet at full time!

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 08/09/2014 17:23:18    1649735

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Should finals/semi's/provincial finals be concluded on the day? Absolutely not IMO.

In the last 3 years from hurling replays the GAA has taken in about 10 million. So from that side of things it's vital for the association and I can't understand why Wayno1 acts like it's a bad thing. If you're involved with your local club Wayno you will see how much they depend on grants to survive and flourish. The more the merrier.

From a supporters point of view absolutely not. I experience Meath/Mayo 1996 when it went to a replay. They were incredible weeks and the extended buzz around the county for the replay was something else. Would you all prefer Dublin v Meath 1991 was decided on the day? Dublin people yes but nobody else would. They basically give us another epic match especially for hurling finals. The extra 3 weeks coverage for the games is great and it's needed this time of the year with the premier league starting up.

From a players point of view? I'd say yes. I'd relish the chance to play in another AI final and I reckon the players do too. Nothing like being treated like Kings for another 3 weeks before most of the country forgets about you till next summer.

I just don't get how after an incredible match and the prospect of a mouth watering replay people are on here complaining more than praising about the game. The most comical ones are the Grab All Association ones. This posters must have very input in their local clubs and/or think the suits in croker park get a pay rise everytime the GAA have a big replay.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 08/09/2014 17:30:22    1649743

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