Haha terrorists and paramilitaries Hermit!

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 01/09/2014 15:04:31    1646094

Offside Rule, Dublin standard issue insult is a description or something about the insultee followed by an insulting word, (usually B****** or C***). Just a few weeks back i got referred to a Blonde B******. Dont take it personal - 99% of racist incidents in Dublin follow the above pattern, 70% of people know this fact.

HenryHill16 (Dublin) - Posts: 249 - 01/09/2014 15:04:36    1646095

Offside Rule there was too much made if Armagh v Cavan row in the first place. A few players went over the top maybe but it was just two teams sorting it out before the throw-in. This arguement "kids watching it" makes me laugh. It's a man's game, physical in nature, and from time to time it gets overheated. If your kids shouldn't be watching it don't bring them or turn off the telly. There's supporters effing and blinding all sorts in the crowd, it's no place for shrinking violets.

If Mrs Bouquet in Killiney doesn't like it let her off to ring Joe and his brand of sure isn't it terrible.Media are there to sell papers and nothing sells better than bad news.

Agree 100% that too much was made of the Armagh/Cavan brawl - I said it at the time and I said it again today. I also think there isn't a lot in the Sat eve brawl (except perhaps the couple of incidents). But the issue isn't about what took place but how it has been reported. What is interesting is that the incident in the Ulster Championship took place in an untelevised game yet was all over the media within hours. Then we have a couple of brawls in a game televised around the world and nothing. So if the media are there to sell papers etc why are they not doing their jobs Sat night, yesterday and today?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/09/2014 15:08:44    1646100

Offside, firstly I was'nt trying directly having a go at yourself as I know you didn't say anything about Kerry being the only culprits. My post was in reaction to another trend on this site which has had all and sundry trying to state that Kerry were up to no good all game which is ridiculous and just demonstrates their own anti-Kerry bias.

Secondly, I do personally think the scenes in Armagh/Cavan match were of a whole other level than the pulling and dragging one Saturday. I don't know where you are getting the evidence to suggest eye gouging was taking place, considering I was at city end of ground I could barely see the scuffle let along make out something like that, and on RTE player after re watching the game I didn't see anything like that.

Also the media and Sunday Game, in particular, highlight what they want when they think it will generate viewer ship/readership. I don't think its specifically anti-Ulster. Remember around 2007 the media uproar over Cork and Clare teams (I think, might have been Waterford) starting a brawl as they were coming out the tunnel in Semple, people were on radio for days after about it. Sure Kerry have suffered badly as well in this, Anthony Tohill among others has got his fair share of Kerry players suspended by highlighting stuff on Sunday game when similar or worse stuff by other players was not discussed and simply let go(and this at time he was Irish manger and shouldn't have been in a position to comment on players in public).

It always happens, but I think your overreacting claiming Mayo Kerry stuff was as bad as what happened earlier in championship, there was nothing in it as far as I'm concerned only bit of steam being let loose.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 01/09/2014 15:23:41    1646113

Thats fair enough TheHermit. I feel though that people would say that the incident in the Ulster championship was also just boys letting off a bit of steam as they were psyched up for the battle. As for the incidents I keep referring to - I am not going to name players or which team but there are two incidents where there is only what can be described as attempts to put fingers in or scrab at the eye area - it can be seen in the footage though there is a lot going on in the picture frame but if you go over it again and again focusing on different players each time you will see what I mean.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/09/2014 15:34:31    1646120

I think one of reasons why the Kerry/Mayo 'brawl' isin't a talking point is because there were very few solid blows landed. The Mayo capped fan will live long in the memory however. The sight of four of five officials struggling to 'rolling maul' this one Mayo man off the field is surely future RTE Reeling in the Years gold at the very least, if not future Sky Sports advertisement material!

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3460 - 01/09/2014 15:34:42    1646121

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1646121 I think one of reasons why the Kerry/Mayo 'brawl' isin't a talking point is because there were very few solid blows landed.

Exactly like the Armagh Cavan 'brawl' (if the Kerry/Mayo one needs quotations then so does the Armagh/Cavan one :)). So that doesn't address the double standard

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 01/09/2014 15:42:07    1646132

Breffni - I honestly believe that if one of the teams involved on Saturday evening was from Ulster we would have had the condemnation which is missing and in fact it would still be ongoing - regardless of the rip roaring match yesterday... ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/09/2014 15:46:32    1646142

Anyone claiming that the Kerry v Mayo brawl was harmless, while on the other hand condemning the Armagh v Cavan brawl stinks of hypocrisy. The picture of the brawl was used 2 or 3 times on RTE's website on Armagh news unrelated to the actual brawl itself. There were people leaving comments wanting both Cavan and Armagh to be thrown out of the championship. There was rightly widespread condemnation of an Armagh fan who threw a ghost punch. Yet the Mayo v Kerry brawl and the big lad who invaded the pitch is largely brushed under the carpet

There is obvious double standards. Personally I think way to big of a deal was made for the Armagh game which has increased the gap in perceived reactions for the two games.

JP91 (Armagh) - Posts: 316 - 01/09/2014 16:18:47    1646191

Because one of the teams involved was Kerry. Every GAA fan knows that Kerry footballers are as pure as the driven snow and they would never stoop to cynical tactics or dirty play. The brawl must have been an optical illusion or possibly a technical glitch with the cameras.

Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 01/09/2014 16:47:11    1646231

That brawl happened during the parade ffs , yet another playing the victim thread

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 01/09/2014 17:51:09    1646290

Ah right bad monkey so before parade is an unacceptable time to brawl but during the game is acceptable. You wouldn't mind giving us the guide to acceptable brawling as we folk up here obviously have it all wrong - ta.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/09/2014 18:12:41    1646304

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1646290 That brawl happened during the parade ffs , yet another playing the victim thread

Are you condoning the brawl on Saturday night then bad.monkey? You're certainly impyling there is a huge difference.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 01/09/2014 18:12:50    1646305

There is no denying there are double standards within the GAA. There have been brawls this summer including biting, punching, referee being intimidated by fans running onto the field of play which has been well and truly brushed under the carpet. What happens in sport when one team or product is way out in front ? The reality is Ulster is the most competitive and only province left worth winning and with that comes a bit of ........ I also think another great Ulster county will be reaching the pinnacle again in 3 weeks. Actually Ulster counties have got used to the double standards but it has not made them any less competitive.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 01/09/2014 18:39:11    1646323

bad.monkey
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1646290
That brawl happened during the parade ffs , yet another playing the victim thread



A brawl is a brawl, is a brawl, is a brawl...

TheGateKeeper (Tyrone) - Posts: 2843 - 01/09/2014 18:52:39    1646331

Apparently not gatekeeper, according to some on here there appears to be a pecking order of brawls, depends on whether it was an open handed slap or whether or not there was a better game played the next day, or some other strange criteria it would seem.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 01/09/2014 19:07:25    1646342

There's no history of fatal violence between Mayo and Kerry... not in my lifetime anyway:)

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 01/09/2014 20:10:13    1646389

Its nice to see the hatred towards kerry back, ah sure sign things are going well in the kingdom ;-)

as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 01/09/2014 20:10:23    1646390

The circulation figures for the Dublin based papers are what decide the nature of their coverage. They know they stand to lose little by adopting a holier than thou attitude to the Cavan/Armagh match but to attack Mayo or Kerry would be economically unwise. Today's Indo even complimented Kerry's 'win at all costs tactics' saying 'Kerry have graduated from Limerick with honours in the subject of doing what had to be done to win a match'. You'll wait a long time for them to excuse Ulster Championship violence in that way.

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 01/09/2014 21:12:33    1646444

as_ky

Its nice to see the hatred towards kerry back, ah sure sign things are going well in the kingdom ;-)

The only relevance this topic has to Kerry (or Mayo) is the fact that they were the two counties involved. This is to do with the aftermath and the reaction or lackof compared to recent events of a similar nature.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 02/09/2014 08:27:53    1646503