Children and idiots blame referees.

Mayo weren't good enough. Simple as. I thought they would be to be honest but they weren't good enough.

Kerry got soft decisions and Mayo got soft decisions. Deal with it.

Thanks for the amazing feedback, no information from your post other than cynical dross. Thanks for your input, it will be kept on file in a filing cabinet. :P

Cranky360 (Mayo) - Posts: 834 - 30/08/2014 21:05:34    1644880

Whatever else O'Connor did, what he did not do was trip the Kerry player.
He kicked him plain and simple, the ref was right to send him off.
The only BIG decision he got wrong was not black carding Enright.
The penalties were just that, all three of them.
Cormac Reilly turned in a very good performance overall today, his fitness level was exemplary, he played some decent advantages and got the vast majority of big decisions correct.
What more can we ask for.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 30/08/2014 21:07:20    1644886

Joncarter

Whingers blame the ref man. I hate seeing it. Just another scapegoat.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/08/2014 21:08:22    1644888

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Whingers blame the ref man. I hate seeing it. Just another scapegoat.


Tis not about blaming but hopefully improving decisions in the future, if we do not discuss if and ignore it, it will not improve. Some terrible decisions today but I think the way forward might be of introducing 1-2 times a team can refer to the camera replay on a decision if its one, that is not cut and dry. One or two per half only and it would make things a slot better in my opinion but its only my opinion. What are your thoughts.
Whingers blame the rain or slippy ground......the referee is key to decisions in a match and is a genuine target to criticize as well are the players and management :)

Cranky360 (Mayo) - Posts: 834 - 30/08/2014 21:15:57    1644900

Children and idiots blame referees.

Mayo weren't good enough. Simple as. I thought they would be to be honest but they weren't good enough.

Kerry got soft decisions and Mayo got soft decisions. Deal with it.

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Well said.

Couldn't agree more.

It is simply taking the easy way out and blaming everyone else but your own side.

Dublin did it many times aswell.

Fact is, If we are going to be truthful here..

Mayo showed immense character last week, Coming back from a man and 5 points down in that second half in Croke Park was pretty ballsy to say the least, But they let a 5 point lead slip themselves in 5 minutes toward the end.

I know they had a man less. But Dublin had a man less playing Donegal in 2011 and where 2 points down against a very difficult team to break down, And we battled back to win the game.

Its a mental thing, Mayo didnt have the legs/mentality to see the game out last week. Today for large parts they where the better team but they didnt take advantage.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 30/08/2014 21:17:45    1644903

Kerry kicked 3 points in the 2nd half of extra time mayo did not score at all. That was the difference between the sides no amount of blaming refs can take away from that.

Traleenative (Kerry) - Posts: 44 - 30/08/2014 21:22:21    1644914

The big call was not sending off Enright for the pen when it was a blatant 2nd yellow/black card. He stayed on, got subbed off and Marc O'Sé had a stormer. Had he been sent off Kerry would have been a man and 7 points down.

Other than that I thought Kerry were the better team. The ref had some iffy calls for both sides, not an easy game to ref. Some savage tackling on show today, then there's the brawls as well.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 30/08/2014 21:24:53    1644920

Great post Bain.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 30/08/2014 21:25:05    1644921

Cranky

You're well named in anyways.

Ref made some poor decisions against both Mayo and Kerry today. Both Mayo and Kerry made his job v hard for him with both their persistent fouling throughout the game.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/08/2014 21:25:30    1644923

Look the two frees Kerry got were very soft but referees are human and they're not going to get every decision right, its just not possible. I know it makes a big difference when the game is as tight as today's was but at the end of the day the best team won.

Trooper_Thorn (Mayo) - Posts: 19 - 30/08/2014 21:26:09    1644926

This was an All-Ireland semi final today. Any referees guidebook would tell you that you should only make a decision when you clearly see and understand the foul that has been committed. Two frees were given against Donaghy's marker today although there was no foul that anyone commenting on the game could see. Both penalties to Kerry were dubious at best. That's an 8 point difference. In a game that was so close, bad refereeing decisions should not account for so much.

None of this was mentioned at all on RTE's coverage. Last year Brolly went ballistic at Cavanagh's foul against Monaghan. Today, Mayo players were rugby tackled to the ground in the last 5 minutes of injury time and no comment at all.

Feel sorry for Mayo. That wasn't a very honourable way for Kerry to win that game.

Giovanni (Laois) - Posts: 303 - 30/08/2014 21:26:13    1644927

The decisions for frees were not hard calls

tom84 (Cavan) - Posts: 334 - 30/08/2014 21:26:14    1644928

Everyone talking about the pace of the game There's 7 officials on the field not 1 When Kerry is involved they get the decisions Just like the choice the GAA made to play the game in Limerick a smaller field than Croke Park more suited to Kerry's clutching and grabbing Neutralizing Mayo's speed Everyone knows what teams the GAA wanted in the final and Mayo wasn't 1 of them

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 30/08/2014 21:30:46    1644936

I have to say MesAmis you're posts on this thread are totally off the mark. Judging by the manly and courageous performance of the Mayo players, I would say they would be the last to blame the ref. Absolute unbelievable commitment from them and Kerry too.

However the supporters seem to be mostly in agreement that the ref gave Kerry a couple of easy calls. You can't give out about Mayo supporters questioning some of the decisions. They are supporters as much as the rest of the us and are hardly going to take the blame for the defeat, which is what you think they should do.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 30/08/2014 21:31:05    1644938

Feel sorry for Mayo. That wasn't a very honourable way for Kerry to win that game.

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Eh, Why ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 30/08/2014 21:34:02    1644948

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Cranky

You're well named in anyways.

Ref made some poor decisions against both Mayo and Kerry today. Both Mayo and Kerry made his job v hard for him with both their persistent fouling throughout the game.


Well my thoughts are that by the referee making or not making decisions that this caused frustration in the players and a lot of the tackling got out of hand because players did not really know where they stood with some erratic decisions. This causes players to be more aggressive because they are frustrated. Not looking to blame, hopefully learn from this as its happened time and time again, not matter what teams are lined out.
Enough personnel insults, thats pretty childish......not discussing things, is childish. Talking is pretty adult....:P

Cranky360 (Mayo) - Posts: 834 - 30/08/2014 21:35:53    1644952

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Look the two frees Kerry got were very soft but referees are human and they're not going to get every decision right, its just not possible. I know it makes a big difference when the game is as tight as today's was but at the end of the day the best team won.

In fairness I agree with your point but I still think this is something that needs to be spoken about so we can improve going forward in the G.A.A. :)

Cranky360 (Mayo) - Posts: 834 - 30/08/2014 21:37:17    1644955

Wayneo

Yeah man. I listened to many a Dub supporter crying into his pint after narrow (and not so narrow) defeats about what the ref did and didn't do.

At the end of the day we were weren't good enough then just like Mayo weren't good enough today. Nothing to do with referees.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/08/2014 21:38:15    1644956

Yes Kerry got a couple of softies at the end of the 1st period of ET (as far as I remember) and their were a couple the other way over the course of the game. But the bigger picture says Mayo couldn't handle Donaghy and that was the difference.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 30/08/2014 21:42:23    1644958

As someone mentioned there were at least 2 occasions I spotted where a player double hopped the ball without penalty. There were also numerous occasions where a player touched the ball on the ground.

But really, the worst was the Enright decision. The fact that he gave the penalty means that he though Enright was guilty of fouling a player heading towards goal. Now surely, if not a black card then it is at least a yellow card. Either way it's a red. To not show any card is completely inexcusable.

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 30/08/2014 21:48:15    1644964