This is a question to Mayo and Kerry fans only. I ask this because I have been reading through Hoganstand and the likes of thescore over the past day or so. Most of the comments of outrage come from people from outside of Mayo or Kerry. On one site in particular somebody said the GAA are a disgrace and they never consider the supporters. A Kerry man's replay was why would we be angry with a 3 hour less drive to the match! A similar point from a Mayo man saying it will take him a lot less time to get there and back than Dublin.

Another made the comparison that it's like asking Kerry up to Pearse stadium for the replay, ie. Limerick is too close to Kerry. But a Mayo man replied saying we don't complain when we have to play Dublin in Dublin or the likes of Meath in Dublin which is right next to their doorstep.

The reality is less people go to saturday night replays compared to the sunday draw. Take away the 10k corporate tickets and you have a stadium fit for the demand that would have travelled to Dublin. It being a 47k capacity you may now get more people in Limerick than would have travelled from the two counties to Dublin. Ticket prices also cut.

So Kerry and Mayo fans, are you outraged like everyone else in the country or are you perfectly fine with the venue?

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 26/08/2014 17:01:44    1642424

You know, when it comes to GAA anyway, we are a nation of moaners. Everyone has an opinion (usually negative), whether or not they follow Gaelic Games or not. If the replay was in Croke Park people would be complaining about the distance & cost of going back up to Dublin in these times of economic strife. You can't win with people in these scenarios.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 26/08/2014 17:26:56    1642455

keeper7
County: Longford
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You talk an awful lot of sense about a number of different things on this board! Wish more people were like you haha

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 26/08/2014 17:29:29    1642461

The game should be in Croke Park. It's not going to change now. End of.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7927 - 26/08/2014 17:31:12    1642463

I am not outraged at the decision. I am outraged at the lack of respect shown for the teams and for the fans of the GAA. I don''t know where you got the information about Mayo supporters being happy enough. There are certainly not too many happy with it on the Mayo GAA Blog which is where most discerning fans speak their mind.

By the way according to Google maps it will take about 3 hours 18 mins and 147 miles to get fro Belmullet to the Gaelic Grounds and back. That's not taking into consideration traffic congestion in towns such as Milltown, Tuam, Claregalway, Clarenbridge, Kilcolgan, Adrahan and into and out of Limerick on a Saturday evening. And that's before you get parking. The point is you can easily push this out to 5 hours with backlogs and that's before a stop for a cuppa or a toilet break. Also there is also no obvious or direct alternative as there are no direct rail or bus service between Mayo and Limerick.

But by far the most sickening insult from a Mayo points of view was the GAA Presidents own specific reference to us in Mayo. Here is the quote.

"I'm sure that Mayo are long enough in the game at this level to know that it's in their best interests to get on with it and play the game and qualify for the final and hopefully, for them, end their barren spell."

Can someone tell me exactly what the decision to hold the match in Limerick has to do with Mayo and their attempt to win an All Ireland? This remember is a comment directly from the president of the GAA.

MaigheoAbu (Mayo) - Posts: 343 - 26/08/2014 17:35:12    1642466

What annoyed me was the reason why it couldn't go to croke park next week - Dublin and Donegal might draw. So they are protecting two other counties from a possibility that probably wont happen, and it is Kerry and mayo that have to take the slack for that. Surely it should be first come first serve?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 26/08/2014 17:35:38    1642467

Yes Master

they are protecting their revenue, it's wrong and unfair to some of our best players.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8605 - 26/08/2014 17:39:09    1642472

I'm flattered, Jack_Geoff! Good interview on this with the GAA's Alan Milton.

link

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 26/08/2014 17:47:15    1642484

Mayo kicked numerous wides in the first half. Had even one of them gone over the bar, their next game would plausibly be in Croke Park. Had Lee Keegan not kicked a player and got himself sent off, there is a good chance that the next game would be in Croke Park...or another way of looking at it, had Brian Sheehan kicked the last one over, the next game would have been in IT Sligo's ground in the FBD league...

You could look closer to home as to why you have to replay. Nobody has to go if they do not want to. The moral outrage is tiring though. The replay is in Limerick. A great venue. The best team will win.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 26/08/2014 17:50:45    1642489

Most people in Mayo are upset about it. Especially in North Mayo as we have a longer journey to Limerick on worse roads and only one possible route (which currently has roadworks on it). Most Mayo people have never set foot in the Gaelic Grounds so parking will be a total disaster. Its also beside Kerry which will give them an advantage in support becase they don't travel to Dublin for semis.

Croke Park is free on the 6th of September and the GAA are holding the date for a 18/1 shot of Donegal/Donegal replay. Match could be fixed for Croke Park and changed to Limerick if the other match ended in a draw.

Its a worse decision than booking Garth Brooks for five nights when you will be in breach of you planning permission by having so many.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1140 - 26/08/2014 17:50:53    1642490

keeper......If the replay was in Croke Park people would be complaining about the distance & cost of going back up to Dublin in these times of economic strife. You can't win with people in these scenarios.
You obviously don't know mayo fans. We would, and do go the ends of the earth to follow our team. And this will never change.

Miler (Mayo) - Posts: 1015 - 26/08/2014 17:50:56    1642491

Realdub your statement doesn't make sense. If the GAA were protecting their revenue they would have the game on Saturday week, before the AIHF, as they would achieve a fair higher levels of revenue than from the 45K in Limerick.

Don't know why all the so-called GAA pundits were not screaming about the American Football when it was first announced.

Seems there is a nice bandwagon developed of righteous indication, everyone seems rightly insulted

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 26/08/2014 17:56:04    1642498

Miler,

I wasn't talking about Mayo (God help us) fans per se. I'm quite familiar with their dedication having seen them on numerous occasions after losing finals in Croker stopping off in Luigis, Supermacs or McDonalds in Longford crying into their cheese burgers.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 26/08/2014 18:04:00    1642508

26/08/2014 17:01:44
Jack_Goff
County: Meath
...It being a 47k capacity you may now get more people in Limerick than would have travelled from the two counties to Dublin. Ticket prices also cut...

This bit I'm not so sure about. Had it been in the capital next Saturday, I'd say you may have snared a few supporters down from the Hills early as well. My first thought about it was that it would be Saturday week, and after a finish like that, there might be closer to 60 thousand at it.
Surely Semple would have been a better choice? Anyway, while hardly outraged, I'd say I'm disappointed but not surprised that CLG gave American football priority over what was always the strong possibility of a replayed AI semi final.

an tseabhac (Kerry) - Posts: 441 - 26/08/2014 18:07:55    1642513

Simple solution - End replays.

What is the goal anyway - if the goal is to make extra ticket sales, then a multi-game series will guarantee that - but if it is simply to decide who advances and who goes home, then why isn't extra time played. There would be no second game if either team won by one point.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2647 - 26/08/2014 18:12:10    1642518

Keeper, the thread is about mayo and Kerry fans anger at the replay being held in limerick. Your comments do not apply to mayo fans. Mayo fans are dedicated as you acknowledge and will continue to follow and suffer with our heroes for as long as we breathe. Dum spiro , spero, is the phrase that sums up our resilience and loyalty to our county and nasty little comments from the likes of yourself will not change that. Good luck to Longford in their quest for glory in football and hurling.

Miler (Mayo) - Posts: 1015 - 26/08/2014 18:20:08    1642531

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of having the replay in Limerick, I think the venue does gives Kerry a massive advantage, both on and off the pitch, I doubt anyone would dispute that. Horan will probably use it as a motivational tool for his team; "they're making us play the match in Kerry's back yard, but we'll show 'em" kinda thing (albeit with stronger language thrown in).

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 26/08/2014 18:53:04    1642567

26/08/2014 17:47:15
keeper7
County: Longford
Good interview on this with the GAA's Alan Milton.

Good interview alright. He was putting up the proverbial smokescreen going on about the possibility of a second replay while it cannot be ruled out. He wasn't willing to use same logic for the second semi-final!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7927 - 26/08/2014 18:54:04    1642568

In answer to the question. I feel its unfair to play such an important Kerry v Mayo match in one of the two counties bordering Kerry.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 26/08/2014 18:56:46    1642570

witnof
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1642498
Realdub your statement doesn't make sense. If the GAA were protecting their revenue they would have the game on Saturday week, before the AIHF, as they would achieve a fair higher levels of revenue than from the 45K in Limerick.


I think crowd wise and the running cost of stadia there's not much in it, and of course there is the USA footie thing, but what I was getting at is, as far as I know, they were keeping Saturday week open for a possible replay between Dublin and Donegal. Correct me if I'm wrong.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8605 - 26/08/2014 19:08:57    1642578