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Lee Keegan's red card

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Connolly got off on a technicality not just because a lot of people felt the episode was embarrassing. Without the technicality I don't see how he could have got off but both cases were rightfully red cards. Sooner or later players will have to learn not to force a ref to make a call on infractions such as these.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 28/08/2014 11:57:19    1643386

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I will ateempt my post fo0r a 4th time. The administrator it seems is an avid Dublibn supporter

I wud just klike to add that during the Laois game NDNA attempted to kick an opponent - punishment? yellow card ....... ooops forgot he wears that blue shirt

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Maybe next time attempt to spell properly.

As for the point you are trying to make.... Zzz

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 28/08/2014 11:59:16    1643387

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Just my opinion but I feel that if Mayo were appealing Keegan's Red Card so he could appear in an All Ireland Final then the appeal would be successful, but because it is a Semi Replay they may not look on it as favourably.
Wrong way to make a decision I know, but I just think that is what will happen.

In the same way, when Ref's make an error during a game how often do they try to even it up with soft decisions to the team they wronged in the first place. Cant be just a coincidence as it happens too often...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 28/08/2014 12:14:04    1643404

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As it stands he gets a one game ban I take it? If the appeal fails and Mayo were to beat Kerry, does that mean the ban could be increased?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 28/08/2014 12:20:37    1643409

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1643409 As it stands he gets a one game ban I take it? If the appeal fails and Mayo were to beat Kerry, does that mean the ban could be increased?


Don't think it can be increased.

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 28/08/2014 12:29:20    1643415

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Id agree with you Fionn. The whole process can be very mickey mouse. Think back to the penrose gormley - monaghan incident, where tyrone made enough noise in the media and low and behold one of them got off. That was far worse than what keegan did. Funny enough, who was it that tackled Cillian O'Connor in the next match, dislocating his shoulder? Conor Gormley (accidental of course but the fact remains, would it have happened if he wasn't there?)

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/08/2014 12:56:39    1643440

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Here's an idea: tell lee keegan not to break any rules which carry a penalty of a red card. That might help his cause in future. Move on people. He'll be missing for the Kerry game.

Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 28/08/2014 13:25:34    1643466

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Stupid reason to get sent off and the player has to take some responsibility, despite all the other variables of intent, force or provocation. Pity because that second half would have suited him. Agree with Kingdomfan 100%, carry on of D. Walsh was embarrassing to say the least. Really not like him and I'd imagine he'll be cringing watching it back.

I knew when I heard Coldrick was in charge that he'd have a bearing on the game, always does. Sunday Game seemed to think he had a good game! Made an issue out of something/nothing that resulted in a red card, made the most ridiculous over-carrying calls, AO Shea spent most of the second half with someone on his back (although he did seem exempt from having to hop or solo the ball) and imo tried to balance out the sending off.

At least it was a draw and we get to see it all again.

FullyForward (Kerry) - Posts: 13 - 28/08/2014 14:13:52    1643500

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aido you need to know my county in order to reply??..why is that?..so you can take a shot at my county which has nothing to do with the point in question?..classic response by lot of people on here

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 28/08/2014 14:44:45    1643530

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To reply to TheMaster....

Thanks for selectively copying and pasting part of my post. Again you highlighted, mind you, out of context, parts of what I said to try make your point valid. If anyone wants to go back and read what I posted, go ahead, it will make TheMaster look like a tabloid newspaper article Editor.

1) Lee Keegan kicked out at Buckley.

2) Cluxton kicked out at McGloughlin

3) Both actually hit their aggressors, both with very little force, but to humour you, one with a little more force than the other.

4) McGloughlin KICKED Cluxtons hands as he placed the ball.

5) Cluxton had a petulant kick back at McGloughlin, who fell to the ground Swanl-Like maximising the punishment for Cluxton.

That's not Dublin bias, that's all pretty much what happened. Two incidents that are very similar if not exactly the same.

Both received reds, both should serve the same ban.

Bias no, just commenting on two incidents that were in recent memory.

The inconsistency of posters like yourself is hilarious. You slaughtered Cluxton "the rules are the rules", "he deserved a red" etc.

Yet with Keegan you have completely changed your tune.

Either all these incidents are reds, or none of them.

The major problem with the GAA is the arbitrary nature of punishments. If Connolly punches a fella in the face, the media and supposed supporters are like "ban him, he's a hothead". If someone like Andy Moran punches a guy in the face the media and supporters are like "Andy is a good guy, he doesn't usually do this, leave him off".

So we keep seeing players receiving different or no punishment for similar offences.

Also, MDMA wasn't given a red. Should he have if we wanna be consistent? Yes.

But then retrospective bans based on video evidence would have to be introduced for missed misdemeanours. Refs would have to be made accountable for giving yellows when reds were awarded or vice versa.

If you wanna be taken seriously, just take the medicine and hopefully Keegan should be available for the final if Mayo make it.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 28/08/2014 16:25:52    1643612

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Very disappointed in Donncha Walsh's role in the sending off. Dancing around urging the ref to red-card Lee. God help him when he has to face the real Lee Keegan when they meet again.

Miler (Mayo) - Posts: 1015 - 28/08/2014 17:05:05    1643636

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The replay's on Saturday lads. I doubt any of the players are having history lessons on rules, regulations and how we wiz robbed. A place in The All Ireland Final is motivation enough for them.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 28/08/2014 17:17:01    1643643

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Very disappointed in Donncha Walsh's role in the sending off. Dancing around urging the ref to red-card Lee. God help him when he has to face the real Lee Keegan when they meet again.


What about Aidan o Shea waving an imaginary card to the ref to get a Kerry player booked....
Totally out of order also...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 28/08/2014 17:24:44    1643647

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fabio

P***** when I typed that. A bit flippant but like it or not where you're from has a bearing on posts here. Agreed having a pop at someone about where the're from is a cheap shot. So what. It's not a court of law, it's an internet forum with all it entails. There's no malice in it. I don't get the USA or UK thing. Proud of where I'm from. :-)
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Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 28/08/2014 18:01:19    1643664

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Very disappointed in Donncha Walsh's role in the sending off. Dancing around urging the ref to red-card Lee. God help him when he has to face the real Lee Keegan when they meet again.

What about Aidan o Shea waving an imaginary card to the ref to get a Kerry player booked....
Totally out of order also...


Noticed this at the time too. Very poor...

opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 503 - 28/08/2014 18:09:17    1643665

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Miler
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Very disappointed in Donncha Walsh's role in the sending off. Dancing around urging the ref to red-card Lee. God help him when he has to face the real Lee Keegan when they meet again.


Why god help him? will he kick him again? it wont be until next year anyway as there is a month ban to serve.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 28/08/2014 18:54:03    1643687

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I am in two minds over the o'shea thing. Yes, it isnt nice to see and you cant condone it for a second. But at the same time, it was so obvious that kerry had a ploy to foul him every time he got the ball, and everyone seemed to have copped it but the ref. It was frustrating to watch so imagine what it was like for him. In truth, there probably should have been cards dished out for what was a pre-empted cynical ploy to spoil his game. I thought it was one thing that the ref really missed that had a big effect on the game.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 28/08/2014 21:04:43    1643748

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aido understandable enough and an easy option to take but it doesnt add to the debate and too often drags debates down on here...its not one of the big counties anyway so you would be disappointed!

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 28/08/2014 21:12:57    1643756

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Happy that Lee will now play tomorrow.

But even it was harsh rules are rules and he was sent off according to the rules. This appeal decision is only going to undermine referees who are already under enough pressure as it is,

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 29/08/2014 08:15:01    1643798

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Keegan cleared on a technicality from what I have heard. The refs report says "kicking with minimal force" .Mayo proved with video evidence that the kick had not connected so should have been reported for "ATTEMPTING to kick with minimal force" which actually carries the same penalty, i.e red card but as ref's report was incorrect he is cleared to play same as Diarmuid Connolly last year really.

I am glad as a Mayo supporter he is playing and we were due a bit of luck that said I can also understand people's frustrations with the system. Who would be a ref eh?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 29/08/2014 09:09:28    1643820

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