brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 9742

1640601 Well ain't that the truth!

Good man,
So you believe most Dublin Players dont hold down fulltime jobs. Im suprised Bren you just read a lazy comment like that and just accept it as fact.
Now if the shoe was on the other foot ?

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/08/2014 18:18:43    1640648

AthCliath
County: Dublin
Posts: 3344
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Ah cut me some slack AthCliath, I'm bored, we've been out of the championship since June, you wouldn't deny me a little bit of rabble rousing now, would you?

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/08/2014 18:41:55    1640661

You are more than entitled brend. The rest of us are hard at the oul rabble rousing 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

No reason why you should be left out!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 22/08/2014 18:53:01    1640668

brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 9745

1640661 AthCliath
County: Dublin
Posts: 3344
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Ah cut me some slack AthCliath, I'm bored, we've been out of the championship since June, you wouldn't deny me a little bit of rabble rousing now, would you?

:-)

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/08/2014 19:35:46    1640683

Adamski
Don't forget Donegal have got Donegal creameries and as you well know ----- THE CREAM ALWAYS COMES TO THE TOP

Fire in belly
Very good post and well said Great manager JMCG Great leader for us Donegal supporters to have.

ATHCLIATH.
Good post also and if some of these posters on here read or from reading what JMcG said ---He won't run down Dublin for what their doing:::: he tried similar in Donegal and is probably doing so at the present moment::: bringing Donegal to a training camp.
To all dub fans::: don't worry about the cost, it could be cheap few days away come 5 o'clock 31/8/14

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 22/08/2014 21:31:41    1640725

County: Meath
Posts: 1737

1640506
Never a word about kilkenny winning the 8 out of the last 10 hurling all-irelands. Is this down to money, professional players, conditioning etc etc.

Kilkenny are basically a hurling only county, that's the choice of most players they want to play hurling and will die for it, yes they have good sponsorship but they have pure brilliant hurlers and that's the main reason for success. Dublin hurling has improved immeasurably and that is great to see but despite the money put into Dublin hurling they still only got to surmount the Cats on two occasions at senior level.

Never a word when kerry win 4-5 all-irelands in every decade, obviously this is down to resources and money etc. etc.

Every team that wins an All Ireland needs financial backing but like Kilkenny above Kerry are an extraordinary county where football is a religion and the continuing production of top class players is remarkable, now like the Cats they have had barren periods of 10-11 years but they are a constant and always come back for periods of serious dominance and don't need oodles of cash to do it.

Then you have Banty coming out with the verbal crap that he did. Sure he was well looked after in meath, known fact and what did he bring to the table. Great way to spend money!!!!! Invest in the underage and don't use the excuse of lack of resources. What resources did meath have in the 80's and 90's, they got on with things and that is why they were successful.

I'm no fan of Banty and yes he was looked after but at least we were transparent about it like other counties, in the 80's and 90's we had Kepak and they were, for the time, very good sponsors who even leant their helicopter to transport players who lived down to country to training and matches. We also had a magical man called Sean Boylan who convinced many to help the teams out and it was no coincidence that when Sean left so did Kepak. We are trying to invest in underage development and all our underage squads train and play in the soon to be finished Dunganny, a facility I believe is important as players need to see that the County Board believes in providing proper facilities in which to train, develop and be treated in case of injury.

I have read this post a couple of times and I still dont know if you are vindicating the current Dublin team set up by comparing it to the Meath team of the late 80s, or if you are taking some sort of moral high ground by having a different kind of sponsorship. Confused.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/08/2014 10:52:14    1640762

Reading the topic title. Dublin Region to Dublin Russia!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7859 - 23/08/2014 11:47:38    1640779

legendzxix
County: Kerry
Posts: 3554

1640779 Reading the topic title. Dublin Region to Dublin Russia!

Jaysus that was soooooo funny, you really are a witty guy, any new ones id love to hear them !!!

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 23/08/2014 11:59:04    1640783

legendzxix
County: Kerry
Posts: 3559

1640779
Reading the topic title. Dublin Region to Dublin Russia!

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Makes better reading than Kerry Gold to Kerry Lead.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 23/08/2014 12:32:41    1640806

Someone posted on other thread what Dublin players are working at. There are far higher proportion of full time coaches and students doing sports courses in other counties. You don't hear us complaining. And we have never paid other players to betray their own counties to play for Dublin.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/08/2014 13:46:13    1640828

hurlingdub
County: Dublin
Posts: 6515

1640828
Someone posted on other thread what Dublin players are working at. There are far higher proportion of full time coaches and students doing sports courses in other counties. You don't hear us complaining. And we have never paid other players to betray their own counties to play for Dublin.

Has this happened somewhere?

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/08/2014 15:59:43    1640866

Yes it has. Think about it. Not in Dublin but close enough :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/08/2014 16:04:13    1640870

I see Donegals own Kevin Cassidy in the media today having a go at Jim McG for this slur against the Dubs calling is disrespectful and insulting to Dublin
Well said Kevin

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 26/08/2014 11:17:43    1642135

First it was lavish holidays in Portugal, then players are getting flown to training by helicopter and now this
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/donegal-to-splash-out-on-luxury-lough-erne-final-camp-30571696.html

I think a full and thorough investigation of Donegals funding is now required with the same scrutiny that was used when Dublins funding was being discussed.
If Dublin are Chelsea then Donegal are surely the Man City living in this lavish lifestyle!!!

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 09/09/2014 12:07:56    1650008

30,000 Donegal fans attended the game v Dublin not to count the tens of thousands who watched it at home.
at 66 cents each I'd say they got their moneys worth.

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 09/09/2014 12:22:08    1650018

Good on Donegal!!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 09/09/2014 12:28:02    1650021

NavyNBlue
You are right. EVERY county should have their finances checked. you seen the problems that Kildare got into with their finances and that really should be avoided. We are not a financially rich county and our sponsorship is not by a massive company like some counties so the question is where does the money come from?

The answer is probably like it was in 2012. The GAA community through the county board fundraising in Donegal gave very generously to the cause. Jim Mc Guinness also went and got sponsors on board to finance some of the pre-season and pre-match trips. This was all documented on the end of year accounts.

Donegal won the All Ireland in 2012 so nobody questioned the finances outlayed in achieving this but you may be sure that if we don't land SAM this year you will hear the usual crying.

In my opinion and I said the same about Dublin. If no rules are broken and Donegal GAA is not at financial risk then I'm all for putting whatever money is required into our teams to give them every chance of success.

Remember Mayo's accounts for 2012 showed they spent more on their teams than we did and spent even more last year!!

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 09/09/2014 12:30:16    1650023

What gets me about these stories though is the narrative that's followed by the media. When it was Dublin we were painted in the same light as politician's on junkets or being catered for in the same manner a premier league football team would be treated. Now its Donegal and there's a slight begrudging tone in that piece - isn't it well for them or nice to have that kind of money I wonder where they're getting it from etc
Like you say Tir Conaill - ALL counties should have the books opened and funding investigated. Everything needs to be above board and audited to ensure that the GAA isn't still extracting funds in an 'unethical' manner ala Charlie Haughey!!

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 09/09/2014 12:39:35    1650028

Navy, From my experience i find they will never listen to a well balanced argument if it gets in the way of slaughtering Dublin for stuff like finances, But will be full of logic and balance if it only goes to strengthen their argument against us. Its quite amusing really. But you are fighting a losing battle pal. Just dont bother responding to the guff.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 09/09/2014 13:00:38    1650041

Donegal have a couple of guys with deep pockets backing them & when I see the results it brings I say Hallelujah!!

What we have now is the way the thing should be done with every box being ticked, every care being taken & players getting the time to prepare properly while at the same time staying amateur.

The standard has been set for others to follow, the blueprint is there, all we have to do now is beat Kerry!!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 09/09/2014 13:20:14    1650059