ormondbannerman
County: Clare
No it isn't. There is a proper roof on the stadium and no horrible weather isn't enough of a reason for croke park management to have to use much more stewards than required which is a needless cost.
What is a proper roof for the stadium if the current roof isn't "a proper roof"?
05/08/2014 19:46:52 Marlon_JD
In your opinion it isn't. In mine it is. Both subjective.
As for what constitutes a proper roof, that would be one that gave adequate coverage to all parts of the stand. Or at least most of it. The roof as it is only covers the top tier, which is closed for alot of the games. So the roof is a token effort, rather than a fully functional roof. If you buy a ticket for a covered stand, you should get what you paid for. For the games on Sunday, there may as well have been no roof on the stands. The roofing on the stands in Thomand, for example, seem pretty decent, and appear to at least give coverage to most of the stands.
As for more stewards being a needless cost, if thats whats required, thats whats required. If you charge money for people to sit in a covered stand, and you have the capacity to provide covered seating, which they had on Sunday, thats what you have to provide. There will always be parts of stand at lower end at pitch side which will be uncovered.
The costs of opening the top tier would be too much for such a game and certainly not be opened to stop people from getting wet.
The stand in Thomond(sic) is awful for rain etc and the rain often blows right into your face and is horrible and still doesn't cover those at the front of the stand.
The cost of stewards In such a case is needless. Where does it state anywhere that the GAA is charging people for a covered stand? It says stand. And the stand is a covered stand anyway

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/08/2014 19:58:39    1632095

jamesjoyce
County: Derry
Posts: 97

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This is a big issue here *everybody and what is going on out there is awful and I think if people want to put a banner up to support this cause than why not.*

I can see people not liking to bring politics into the GAA but it has happened alot throughout history for example in his speech after beating Armagh in the 1977 final the Dublin captain noted the hardship that the conflict in the North was having on the GAA up there and this meant alot to the Gaels in the 6 counties.

I think that the sky influence and the owner of skys political views that may have caused the removal of the banner and I hope that this would not happen again and the gaels at the game on saturday will stand by the Breen brothers.

Remember the Breen Brothers from Portadown are fellow gaels who love the GAA and are showing support for the poor people in GAZA.

muckla (UK) - Posts: 366 - 05/08/2014 19:59:10    1632096

The Lucan Legend Mr Snuffy himself rules the roost on here.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 05/08/2014 20:02:14    1632102

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
The cost of stewards In such a case is needless. Where does it state anywhere that the GAA is charging people for a covered stand? It says stand. And the stand is a covered stand anyway

You've just answered your own question there.

And if there's a need for something, its not needless. On Sunday, there was a need to use the upper tier because it was the only place that gave shelter from the elements. Hence the need.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 05/08/2014 20:14:03    1632114

05/08/2014 20:14:03
Marlon_JD
And if there's a need for something, its not needless. On Sunday, there was a need to use the upper tier because it was the only place that gave shelter from the elements. Hence the need. There wasn't a need for the upper tier. Shelter from the elements isn't a real need for the GAA to go to the cost of opening the top tier. There isnt a need for the upper tier to open unless there is sufficient crowds in the ground to warrant its opening and that wasn't the case at the weekend.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/08/2014 20:20:10    1632118

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
There wasn't a need for the upper tier. Shelter from the elements isn't a real need for the GAA to go to the cost of opening the top tier. There isnt a need for the upper tier to open unless there is sufficient crowds in the ground to warrant its opening and that wasn't the case at the weekend.

Ughh, we're going round in circles here. Its about the needs of the patrons, those are the needs I'm referring to. If the GAA want to ignore those needs, and just nickle and dime the people attending their games, they can go right ahead. But that's a lousy way to treat people who pay in through the turnstiles.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 05/08/2014 20:31:46    1632133

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
There wasn't a need for the upper tier. Shelter from the elements isn't a real need for the GAA to go to the cost of opening the top tier. There isnt a need for the upper tier to open unless there is sufficient crowds in the ground to warrant its opening and that wasn't the case at the weekend.

05/08/2014 20:31:46 Marlon_JD
Ughh, we're going round in circles here. Its about the needs of the patrons, those are the needs I'm referring to. If the GAA want to ignore those needs, and just nickle and dime the people attending their games, they can go right ahead. But that's a lousy way to treat people who pay in through the turnstiles. If patrons felt that there was an issue surely something would be people looking for a redevelopment of stadia?
Patrons prepare for the weather and GAA are not ignoring supporters needs. What would you do if stadium is full what about it then? It is not a lousy way to treat paying customers. The people attending the games know that they'll get wet and they can choose not to go if they desire. The GAA shouldn't have to open up the top tier simply because of rain. that is just ridiculous

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/08/2014 21:05:50    1632166

What has flags got to do with anything other than colour? Will Laois fly Isreali flags? Or Cork with Confederate or Japanese war flags? Whats wrong with a palestinian flag anyway? and whose bloody business is it anyway? We have John 3:5 etc etc But shock horror someone flies a flag of a people being bombed into the stone age and some idiot takes exception to it.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 05/08/2014 21:12:15    1632173

Páirc an Chrócaigh Teo
Croke Park is incorporated in Páirc an Chrócaigh Teo (PCT) and was formed in 1914. It is a holding company for the GAA and the stadium management for Croke Park. PCT is charged with managing match and non-match day events in the venue. The role is primarily to ensure that all visitors to Croke Park have a safe and enjoyable experience. It also involves maintaining, developing and maximising returns from the stadium's assets, such as the Croke Park Conference Centre, GAA Museum, Croke Park Suites, Príomh tickets and advertising opportunities.

Thats who runs the bit of the GAA that first first poster is concerned with. The actual GAA - the amateur organisation is not really anything to do with this entity. Thats the bit most of us are involved with.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 05/08/2014 21:16:42    1632176

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
It is not a lousy way to treat paying customers. The people attending the games know that they'll get wet and they can choose not to go if they desire.
And why do they know they'll get wet? Because they know the stadium doesn't have a proper roof.

The GAA shouldn't have to open up the top tier simply because of rain. that is just ridiculous
No. Having the only part of the stadium that's sheltered from rain closed, preventing anyone from taking cover from the rain when seats are available there, is ridiculous.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 05/08/2014 21:31:56    1632185

ormondbannerman
It is not a lousy way to treat paying customers. The people attending the games know that they'll get wet and they can choose not to go if they desire.
The GAA shouldn't have to open up the top tier simply because of rain. that is just ridiculous
05/08/2014 21:31:56 Marlon_JD
And why do they know they'll get wet? Because they know the stadium doesn't have a proper roof.
No. Having the only part of the stadium that's sheltered from rain closed, preventing anyone from taking cover from the rain when seats are available there, is ridiculous. There is plenty of space on the bottom tier sheltered from rain and you don't open up the upper tier
A stadium with few on the lower tier and most on the upper tier(where people will still get wet) is a waste of time.
You don't open up the upper tier unless the crowd size dictates that you have to

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/08/2014 21:42:59    1632197

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2248

1632173
What has flags got to do with anything other than colour? Will Laois fly Isreali flags? Or Cork with Confederate or Japanese war flags? Whats wrong with a palestinian flag anyway? and whose bloody business is it anyway? We have John 3:5 etc etc But shock horror someone flies a flag of a people being bombed into the stone age and some idiot takes exception to it.

arock,

Don't be so naive. It's not me being the idiot here.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 05/08/2014 21:57:59    1632212

This was posted as a new thread but as the subject matter is similar it has been incorporated here.

Tom1916
Posts: 1719
Armagh

06/08/2014
11:20

Croke Park Supporters Flag Ban


http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/threads/gaza-garvaghy-armagh-croke-park.3655/

This is a disgrace, the GAA need to act now to prevent censorship creeping into our games.

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2274 - 06/08/2014 11:25:02    1632312