11/03/2015 21:59:06 Greengrass
Am I the only one that is entirely embarrassed by this continuous commemoration of Munster beating a second string All Black team in a midweek game all of 37 years ago. It us a cringe inducing ad. As is the fact that plays and books have been written about the match. Let it go for God's sake.You do realise the All Blacks team Munster faced was far from second string. It is one of the few times a non national side has beaten New Zealand, strongest country in the world in rugby. They kept them scoreless. Little coverage of game exists on camera as not shown live and highlights are ???? so story lives on in legend...
12/03/2015 15:03:53 mediaman
A comparison of club rugby union and club hurling/football is exactly what proves RTE's rugby union bias. In the last 12 months RTE, the national broadcaster, didn't show any club hurling or football at all. No live games. Not even highlights. In contrast RTE shows highlights of club rugby union league matches every week on Against the Head (at least 3 games a week) in spite of the fact that the matches are poorly attended attracting nowhere near the crowd numbers which attend hurling/football club games. RTE also shows live club rugby union at the end of the league as well. In other words we see plenty of club rugby union on RTE but no club hurling or football at all. At this stage it's almost perverse to hear people still argue that RTE provides a fair and unbiased coverage. Unless of course RTE was always meant to stand for Rugby Telefis Eireann. TG4 have the rights to GAA club games. How can RTE show things they don't have the rights to. That would be unlawful. Against the Head is only in certain times of the year - international weekends. There is brief highlights for a few weeks of the year. Club games have clips shown on news all through the winter unlike rugby.
If you think RTE are biased in favour of rugby why are they dropping their coverage next season to just international rugby?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 12/03/2015 17:32:57    1702089

Some still clearly can't grasp the concept that RTE do not have the rights to show League and club games. The GAA sold the rights to other channels.
The Irish rugby team and others are national teams so of course will get national coverage. GAA does not have this international element and suffers accordingly. It's great other sports are getting more coverage now, the effects of the ban on 'foreign' games is finally being eroded.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/03/2015 18:08:10    1702106

rte dont have the rights to the english premier league or the heinken cup
but it doesnt stop them giving constant news bulletins on both

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/03/2015 18:52:58    1702122

Of course, they are both hugely popular in Ireland along with the GAA championships. Of the three RTE only show the GAA championship live...and yet some accuse them of anti-GAA bias! But these people probably want the ban back too. I even remember hill16 saying RTE should not cover news stories from abroad !! people should watch these on British channels . Go figure

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/03/2015 19:06:34    1702125

bad.monkey
County: USA
It's great other sports are getting more coverage now, the effects of the ban on 'foreign' games is finally being eroded.

The effect of the ban on 'foreign' games has got nothing to do with RTE"s current sports programming. First, the ban applied to the GAA, not RTE. Secondly, Gaelic Games hardly got any coverage on RTE during the years of that ban. Up to the early 90's, you'd only have the AI semi's and AI finals on TV. If anything, during that period, Rugby and Soccer dwarfed hurling and Gaelic football when it came to TV coverage. Its the inverse of your above statement, the GAA are now just starting to catch up.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 12/03/2015 19:20:59    1702130

bad.monkey


which is the problem
they dont show either the heiniken cup or the english soccer yet give it more air time on the national sports bulletin
than a programme they do show the gaa championships
what other organisation would promote competitions that their competitors show over competitions they have the rights to show?
also they give team info on both of them competitions they dont have but dont give team info on the gaa league games which they also
dont have doesnt that show a bias to you?
I didnt say that
what i said was rte sports bulletin is the irish national sports news
you turn on the irish national sports news and british sport over irish sport
which is pointless when we all have british channells and can watch them if we want british sports news
is it too much to ask to turn on our nationa channell and see national news?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/03/2015 19:39:07    1702135

bad.monkey
County: USA
It's great other sports are getting more coverage now, the effects of the ban on 'foreign' games is finally being eroded.


thats one strange statement haha
you feel its great that the irish national news
gives more coverage to other sports outside of ireland?
your living in the states too long pal
think your have forgotten that rte is an irish station haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/03/2015 19:42:53    1702137

I don't subscribe to any British channels. Many others don't either, RTE gives news on Premier league as it is hugely popular here.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/03/2015 19:46:02    1702138

RTE gives excellent coverage to GAA , radio 1 had fantastic coverage of the League games last Sunday . Highlights shown on Tv that evening. Tg4 show the games live. Really how much more coverage can national league games expect to get??? They are not sky sports.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/03/2015 20:18:12    1702149

Monkey you would have a point about RTE not having the rights as they were 'sold' to other broadcasters were it not for the fact that RTE have never given coverage to club games except for All-Ireland finals, even when no other station broadcast GAA. TG4 started broadcasting these games as they had a tiny budget and club games cost very little to cover, and they have proven to be hugely popular. Similarly with the national league games. While the figures are not known, it is thought that TG4 pay a very small sum to broadcast these competitions. As the national station you would expect they would invest the greatest sum of money in broadcasting the national sports, the sports the nation have the greatest interest in.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/03/2015 20:27:18    1702150

National broadcasters tend to cover the biggest tournaments - GAA championships, 6 nations, Olympics, soccer World Cup..etc . Of course they don't cover local club games.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/03/2015 20:58:27    1702159

the all ireland club championship is a very well attended and big competition as is the national league yet strangely not shown

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 12/03/2015 21:14:02    1702170

Im not sure what national broadcasters you are familiar with monkey that show them particular sports! In any case BBC Wales provide coverage of amateur club rugby games, as well as of the professional sides, which seems completely sensible as rugby is the national sport of Wales. This would be comparable to showing club and intercounty GAA. They also show games from the Welsh soccer league, though the 4 biggest teams in Wales play in the English leagues. If RTE, Irelands national broadcaster, took a similar approach then we would see much more GAA action on our national station.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/03/2015 21:22:17    1702171

Sounds a lot like tg4 eh?

As I said in my original Some still clearly can't grasp the concept that RTE do not have the rights to show League and club games. The GAA sold the rights to other channels

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 12/03/2015 21:36:36    1702180

It does a little monkey - of course Wales also have their own equivalent of TG4 which is S4C, BBC Wales and RTE are comparable in being the national broadcasters. Yes you said that, but then it was pointed out to you that RTE didn't show the games even when there was no other broadcaster, and the fact they are being 'outbid' for these competitions by a station with a tiny fraction of their budget suggests no serious effort is being made by RTE to broadcast the games now either.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 12/03/2015 21:46:11    1702183

you do realise tg4 dont have near the resources of rte and rte could quite easily get the rights if they wanted to..the point is they didnt which is very puzzling considering the viewership

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 12/03/2015 21:48:34    1702184

I'm not sure of the dynamics of the whole relationship, but are RTE and TG4 really rival broadcasters? From my understanding, they're both public channels, both part of the national broadcast infrastructure. Actually, I believe TG4 may be part funded by RTE (I think).
So, if games are on TG4, are they not being shown by the national broadcaster? It makes no odds to me if they're on TG4 or RTE, the channels are part of the same national broadcast package, so I get to see the games either way.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 12/03/2015 21:50:13    1702186

For years RTE has been hiding behind TG4 coverage as the reason for them not being able to give greater coverage to football and hurling when in fact they have never shown any inclination to broadcast anything other than championship matches. Compare this to RTE's enthusiasm to broadcast rugby union at all levels. A gallery of sports photos on the RTE website today even has rugby union photos of two school's Junior Cup matches involving 15 year olds. Can you believe that?

mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 12/03/2015 21:58:11    1702189

What bearing has attendances got to do with viewer numbers? Does anyone think that more people around the country would watch a Waterford hurling final than Leinster v Edinburgh? Would more watch Dublin v Kerry in a league match more than Ireland v England in the 6 Nations? (I would! )

Some rugby supporters are armchair supporters will watch GAA championship from said armchair. But maby are GAA diehards, though not many here!

VIEWERS are what RTE are after, attendances are irrelevant to them.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 12/03/2015 21:58:53    1702192

Ormond it was a midweek game played 37 years ago. Before the last game between Munster and The All Blacks was played one of The All Blacks was asked by a breathless RTE interviewer had he heard about Munster beating the All Blacks in 1978. He looked incredulously at the interviewer, shook his head and said no. What the hell was he going to know about a midweek game played before he was born. Time to stop talking about it Ormond. It's embarrassing. Legend is Leinster winning three Heineken Cups in 4 years. Legend is Munster winning two Heineken Cups in three years.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 12/03/2015 21:59:45    1702193