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You can't reach your potential as a dual player

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football_dude

Ad what would you lads in Roscommon have to worry about duel players for - come to think of it in any code !!! - what a remark.

The issue for hurling has nothing to do with how "great" a sport is, its about access to that limited pool of exceptional players of whioh most are duel code players. In a county like Dublin with a multitude of duel code clubs it is a big issue for them and for the players if coaches start stopping players playing both codes.

As to can a player play both codes? No I don't believe in the modern game of football and hurling you can play both. The only question for the Dublin clubs is how they go about this and factoring in to the juvenile setup.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 05/08/2014 08:28:05    1631581

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Damothedub

Well said, the big issue is for duel clubs who promote duel codes, if players have to choose - the issue is it has to be their choice not a clubs or coach be they club or county - its none of their business at all. This is the GAA after all, not the GFA or GHA as half the counties in Ireland seem to think.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 05/08/2014 08:37:02    1631583

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04/08/2014 19:27:18 bennybunny
That was the point I was making. It is hard to measure potential. Therefore the person that commits to one sport has an advantage over the other. If it is not common sense then it is numbers, name the number of people that play two technically different sports at the highest level? Why would Munster not allow Tomas O'Leary and Darren Sweetnam play hurling with Cork in the summer. Why won't they even allow them play competitive with their clubs? If it is possible to play two sports then surely a team like Munster (regardless of them being professional) would have no problem with the lads playing during the summer. Why did Cork City not let the likes of George O'Callaghan play club senior hurling in their off season? Why doesn't Jim Gavin play two GAA games? Why do you feel that you are right when everybody else feels differently.
Why do write comments like that underlined above.
You see when you write things like that and when you feel you know more than all others involved, that is snobbery.
It isn't snobbery from icehonesty. He's talking(very well) about an issue most don't get..
Munster didn't let Tomas O Leary play hurling while he played with Munster and don't let Darren Sweetnam play hurling at the moment as it would affect their rugby career and training schedules. They would be hurling in the months when they should be holidaying and resting and then in time when theyre in pre season.
A person who commits to one sport doesn't always have an advantage and there has been numerous cases of people combining sports at highest level - Katie Taylor combined soccer and boxing did she not?
04/08/2014 19:55:09 cuederocket
Benny we both agreed that its not possible to reach your full potential by playing both hurling and football.How some people cannot see this is baffling,although not surprising.I wouldnt bother arguing the toss.
But how do define full potential?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 05/08/2014 09:52:02    1631596

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It isn't snobbery from icehonesty. He's talking(very well) about an issue most don't get..Except you obviouslyMunster didn't let Tomas O Leary play hurling while he played with Munster and don't let Darren Sweetnam play hurling at the moment as it would affect their rugby career and training schedules. They would be hurling in the months when they should be holidaying and resting and then in time when theyre in pre season.A person who commits to one sport doesn't always have an advantage and there has been numerous cases of people combining sports at highest level - Katie Taylor combined soccer and boxing did she not?

The part in bold: Thank you that is the point we are all making. Thank you for agreeing.

The part underlined. We are all saying that two/three sports can be coombined. The point is combining elite sports (please understand the point we are making) - about being champion, about sacrificing to be the best at two sports - we are not talking about casually playing. Katie Taylor when committed to boxing was fully committed to boxing. She wasn't training for soccer internationals the week before she boxed in the olympics was she? Aidan Walsh is playing munster football final the week before he plays a hurling final. There is a big big difference. You'll have to get better examples than that to make your point.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 05/08/2014 10:07:01    1631606

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icehonesty

I never suggested you didn't have common sense. Please don't take the fact that I disagree with you personally. I'm speaking from my own personal experience and my own point of view. Anybody I've played with knows me as a person who's committed to each one of them and would break bones to steer the ship towards victory often at the cost of my own glory/injury.The team is far more important than me. That is comradery to me and the key to success in any team sport. If you have divided loyalty I don't think you belong the the team as a unit 100% of the time. And I don't think there's any place for such a self centered attitude either. People like that should stick to individual sports.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2680 - 05/08/2014 21:51:23    1632207

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