They are a slick outfit and definitely capable of winning this year.
The only thing going against them is that they are on the tougher side of the draw with kerry waiting in the long grass.

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 29/07/2014 14:38:34    1627944

They knocked out the All Ireland Champions each of the last 3 years which maybe in a way could be considered to be lucky to have drawn them in the latter stages 3 years running given how teams struggle to come back and win it a second year.

However while at this stage you might say that should they meet Dublin in the final the same rules would apply you have got to remember that Dublin have more strength in depth than any team in memory. A factor (like Kerrys easy path) that might make it easier to do two in a row.

While I would love to see Mayo lift Sam you also have to remember that having been in the last two finals there will be a lot of wear and tear on their squad both physically and mentally. As such I believe that they will struggle to overcome Cork and should they manage that they will run out of steam when they hit Kerry.

I hope I am wrong and that their relatively easier path the last couple of years has not taken so much out of them but I do see them faltering a bit earlier this year.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 29/07/2014 14:38:48    1627945

Certainly wouldn't have them as favourites but i do think they are in with a shout! if my own county don't win I'd love to see mayo do it after all the county has suffered in finals over the years! Now that would be some party!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 29/07/2014 15:53:20    1628008

Nothing against mayo and if cork dont win it then i would not begrudge them,but they are in for a serious wake up call on sunday and im extremly confident we will wallop them the game against sligo will stand to us and give us much needed momentum,in 2010 dublin took a unmerciful beating from meath changes were made and while not winning it that year they have never really looked back,cork by 5

blackrockeddie (Cork) - Posts: 160 - 29/07/2014 16:13:38    1628028

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Not a chance. This is the same group of players who have been found wanting over the past 3/4 years and they are not strong enough mentally to win it. They are a decent football team but they don't have that inner strength and belief to get over the line and there's nothing to demonstrate that anything has changed. Derry showed in the National League that Mayo are still prone to the same failings when at the business end of tournaments and they easily throw the towel in when serious pressure is put on them. They may beat 1 big side but not 2 or 3.


This is a first, but...

I AGREE WITH ALL OF THIS!!

I'm feeling very scared and alone right now...

PS I really, really hope that I'm wrong (barring us winning!)

an tseabhac (Kerry) - Posts: 441 - 29/07/2014 16:38:20    1628042

No they cannot do it as the curse still exists

Game2Halves (Tyrone) - Posts: 265 - 29/07/2014 16:52:49    1628053

Blackrockeddie: The game against Sligo will stand to ye? How do you make that out? All due respect to Sligo, but it's hardly been their year, now has it? Mayo to win by 5 points.

Strangely enough, if it's a Dublin v Mayo final I could see Mayo win.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 29/07/2014 17:02:54    1628061

festinog i dont think we will win sam not for a moment,but as i said in my post dublin got beat and turned it around,through a defeat such as cork took from kerry you have to change it around and try out other players and hope everything clicks,in the mane i was quietly impressed against sligo,your right sligo are no world beaters but colm o neil came in scored ten points that will stand to him hurley and i think goulding will start now that is a frontline of serious firepower,im extremly confident we will beat mayo,as i said if mayo beat us hope they go and win it

blackrockeddie (Cork) - Posts: 160 - 29/07/2014 17:38:16    1628075

S goldrick
We had no sort of defence in that match last year Now we are talking about 2014 and for your sake we can compare 2013 and 2014 if you like.
Take Cavan v Armagh 2013 and now take Cavan v Armagh 2014 Was there a difference in the results over the two years ??
What about Tyrone v Monaghan 2013 and 2014. ?? What about Donegal v Monaghan 2013 and 2014 ??
You can also compare 2012 Donegal v Mayo and last year. Which goes to prove that what happens one year will happen again the next year.
Any person who have watched Donegal this year and last year can see a big difference and by that I mean anybody who knows anything about football
I just pointed out what some Mayo posters said after the Roscommon game and they did indeed struggle Also last year against Tyrone they were all over the place until P Hart /S o Neill went off injured. P Hart was the mainstay of the Tyrone defence and it was clear they had the measure of Mayo until He went off injured
What do Mayo posters think of their chances against a team who play like Monaghan /Donegal ???

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 29/07/2014 20:01:06    1628162

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1628162 S goldrick
We had no sort of defence in that match last year Now we are talking about 2014 and for your sake we can compare 2013 and 2014 if you like.
Take Cavan v Armagh 2013 and now take Cavan v Armagh 2014 Was there a difference in the results over the two years ??
What about Tyrone v Monaghan 2013 and 2014. ?? What about Donegal v Monaghan 2013 and 2014 ??
You can also compare 2012 Donegal v Mayo and last year. Which goes to prove that what happens one year will happen again the next year.
Any person who have watched Donegal this year and last year can see a big difference and by that I mean anybody who knows anything about football
I just pointed out what some Mayo posters said after the Roscommon game and they did indeed struggle Also last year against Tyrone they were all over the place until P Hart /S o Neill went off injured. P Hart was the mainstay of the Tyrone defence and it was clear they had the measure of Mayo until He went off injured
What do Mayo posters think of their chances against a team who play like Monaghan /Donegal ???

I wouldn't waste your time on him. The cavan folk on here are wise men on great football. Funny that as their own county has been an irrelevance for night on 50 years.

I fancy Mayo to win pulling up on Sunday.

Samsforthehills (Donegal) - Posts: 1072 - 29/07/2014 20:20:42    1628186

Id love to see them do it, but they'll have to beat Cork, Kerry (probably), and either Dublin or the "real" Donegal to get there. Talk about doing it the hard way. Don't see it but good luck to them. Stranger things have happened.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 29/07/2014 20:23:13    1628189

SamonErrigall
Tyrone they were all over the place until P Hart /S o Neill went off injured. P Hart was the mainstay of the Tyrone defence and it was clear they had the measure of Mayo until He went off injured
Peter Harte went off injured in the 4th minute Sam....

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 29/07/2014 20:40:08    1628206

no one would begruge Mayo winning Sam, for the first time since 1951,but i cant see this happening, why cause Dublin are the stand out team, i believe they would take all the team s left, and run everyone of them, including Donegal off the field, Dublin have super fit player s for the big occasion, player s used to winning,even a team gets a lead on Dublin ,they come back and blow them away. Dublin can throw on 3 to 4 fresh players,who can finish off a team, i wish i was wrong but no, Dublin wont be stopped by any1, i think we, Donegal, might win an All Ireland this year, MINOR.

mchugh11 (Donegal) - Posts: 242 - 29/07/2014 21:01:17    1628230

I believe Cork will need in the nature of a miracle to beat Mayo on Sunday.

They are a team in the first year of transition.

They have serious problems with their kick-outs and midfield.

Management still haven't worked out how they want the team to play. (They used a sweeper system in the league, man-on-man against Tipperary and Kerry, and a new sweeper system against Sligo.)

May have put together a great team over three years, whereas Cork are still bringing in new players.

Still, I'm hoping for that miracle!

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 29/07/2014 21:18:54    1628245

You need forwards that will produce it in the heat of battle and Mayo don't have that.

They wont win this year!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 29/07/2014 21:34:53    1628266

Problem for Mayo as well is that while they might not have been challenged yet their potential opponents in Kerry and Dublin are also yet to face any sort of challenge so should be equally fresh sp no advantage there.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 30/07/2014 08:09:27    1628297

While it cannot be argued that god forwards win games, spouting the usual lazy BS about Mayo's forwards not being up to the standard of every other county just doesn't stack up. Check out the statistics on dontfoul and you will find there is little difference between the shooting ability of any county. It all comes down to possession and the number of chances created from the possession you get. Its a fact that the game is won between the 45's. That's why Dublin are ahead of everyone else. They have average forwards they just create more chances and use their bench early while other teams are tiring. Mayo, nor any other county, will win the all Ireland until the can match Dublin for possession and get their subs on before they start to tire around midfield.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1129 - 30/07/2014 08:23:38    1628300

Whatever about an AI, Mayo will win fairly easily this weekend. Cork have been a serious disappointment so far and I just can't see them being able for Mayo. I think the Kerry-Galway game will be a lot closer than people think, but regardless of that I fancy Mayo to have too much for either of them in a semi. Only concern for Mayo to get to AI final is the number of goal chances they have been coughing up all year, still need to tighten up their defence. Still fancy them to get to the final though.
As for an AI, last year Mayo left an AI behind them. IMO Donegal are 2nd favs this year with Mayo a close 3rd. Very hard to see beyond Dublin for Sam.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 30/07/2014 09:48:43    1628323

Mayo to beat Cork by 4+. For sure.
Mayo to win Sam. Unlikely.
2 top class forwards (O'Connor & McLoughlin (half forward)) won't be enough

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 30/07/2014 10:02:19    1628328

Mayo will be hard to beat this year imo.

I think they will reach the All Ireland Final and they will have a great chance.

A large depth of scoring forwards is their only weakness though.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3738 - 30/07/2014 13:18:43    1628445