exactly naysayer..this 'galway way' nonsense..the game has moved on..where has this way got them in recent years?...to go out and play naively against kerry would be asking for a big beating..i hope they have a clear strategy to make it very difficult for the likes of o donoghue inside

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 27/07/2014 20:56:25    1626833

i was discussing the point on expecting galway to be competitive against them pope..i am entitled to debate the points...if you have nothing to offer bar snide remarks then look elsewhere

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 27/07/2014 20:57:31    1626834

marooned and soma ye are both right. we have only met kerry a handful of times in the last 20 yrs in championship and our record is poor but historically we have a decent record against them and are the only team outside of cork to have beaten them 3 yrs in succession in championship. that was in the swinging sixties. on the next day as mentioned we need serious tightening up in defence and we must use the open sapces to allow our many natural ball players to show what they can do.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 27/07/2014 20:58:47    1626835

Naysayer Galway management decided 3 years ago when they took on the job how they would play the game - if you think they might set out in a negative, defensive manner on Sunday because they are facing Kerry then I am not sure you understand how intercounty management works. They may alter their team a little, but the general approach will remain the same - its how big counties with a history of success do things.
And Fabio while Galway have had some disappointing years, they have been winning minor and U-21 All-Irelands, while watching a county with a similar approach to them (but better players for the last 10 years) win numerous senior All-Irelands. I don't think there s any need to abandon their traditional approach just yet.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 27/07/2014 21:06:53    1626849

the winning counties always have a game plan and dont go and be naive when it comes to the big days..kerry the biggest winners of them all are always clever and set themselves up in an excellent way be it defensive or attacking as do the dubs so less of the remarks of this 'big county' idea which galway simply are not currently...it is clear you enjoy the traditional approach..yes galway have had some excellent underage success recently and hopefully it works out at senior..but to simply play the same way against kerry as they did against tipp where they conceded 4-12 would be asking for a kerry-mayo type demolition

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 27/07/2014 21:20:32    1626871

kerry played a variety of approaches soma including numerous instances of this evil 'blanket defence' and 'negative' style so far from 'traditional' so to speak..nothing wrong with their approaches at all they have been a joy to watch and long may it continue..hopefully the galway management can be as flexible with their tactics as the 'traditional' man to man style is grand when you have padraic joyce and michael donnellan amongst others but you will generally be caught out by it if you are conceding huge scores to a recent div 4 side

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 27/07/2014 21:22:53    1626876

Galway are possibly better than you think they are fabio, and this relatively newly constructed Kerry side are possibly not as good as you think they are. That is more likely to keep Kerry's winning margin to a respectable (less than 10pt) margin, than any crash course benefits that the Galway squad could get this week from poring over blanket defence formations, and adopting some sort of alien puke football gameplan that just isin't the traditional fancy dan Galway way.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3423 - 27/07/2014 21:52:39    1626923

Galway are possibly better than you think they are fabio, and this relatively newly constructed Kerry side are possibly not as good as you think they are. That is more likely to keep Kerry's winning margin to a respectable (less than 10pt) margin, than any crash course benefits that the Galway squad could get this week from poring over blanket defence formations, and adopting some sort of alien puke football gameplan that just isin't the traditional fancy dan Galway way. [/b

Unfortunately still a good bit better than Galway and I find it incredibly curious that in the same breath you can call tactical football to win matches puke football while saying staying within 10 points of Kerry will be respectable - it is a bit like saying there is no way I would sell my Granny but I would not mind losing her.

As Tomas O Shea said last night on the Sunday game, Galway need to bring a little divilment into their play especially in defence.. We need more physicality and if we can somehow keep o Donoghue quiet.. you never know!! We are in bonus territory from now on

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 28/07/2014 09:10:54    1626961

Perhaps one of the reasons that you find it incredibly curious Naysayer is that you seem to wrongly attach a derogatory insinuation to all uses of the term 'puke football'. I myself use the term puke football, but not usually in any derogatory sense whatsoever. I use it as a label really to define the style of play where teams get lots of bodies behind the ball on defence. I use it as a label, which is why I needed additional adjectives to describe quality 'puke' football out of Tyrone 2003-2008, systemised 'puke' football from the current Donegal side, and loser puke football from Cavan last season in my original post. I did put puke in 'quotes' when talking about Tyrone and Donegal, but perhaps you missed that particular subtlety.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3423 - 28/07/2014 09:42:18    1626978

Fair enough Pope_Benedict but I am of the opinion that teams should be drilled to play different types of football even within a game if it requires changing. I see this at club level so surely it is a basic requirement at county level. The longer guys are in charge of a team the better the team should be at switching between styles depending on the shape of a match. Also the longer coaches have worked with players the easier this transition from the naive (attacking/wide open) game to the puke (defensive/counter attacking) game or anything in-between should be during a match. (see what I done there:))

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 28/07/2014 10:22:35    1627014

Pope_benidick,

If you though Cavan played loser puke football last year (by the way they got further than Galway) Then you should see them this year. they are 10 times worse. Last year they actually played some decent football at times. This year they have taken Puke football to a new (low) level. I love watching Galway, That was some game v Tipp I would say it will be another cracker v Kerry.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 28/07/2014 10:52:30    1627062

Forget this 'going further' crack, s goldprick, when both sides aren't anywhere near the div1 benchmark or all-Ireland contention. As Naysayer says, two tramps fighting over a cigarette butt.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3423 - 28/07/2014 11:41:25    1627134