Moylagh:


Once again, you have hit the nail on the head.
Good post.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 23/07/2014 12:11:30    1624714

23/07/2014 11:56:02
kerryluck
County: Kerry
just make them play some games outside dublin, the last time they did, they struggled to a 2 point win over longford in 2006,
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Not to deviate from the topic but it's not a bad point. It's only logical prior to the semi-finals however. My own personal view is for provincial groups to be brought in across provinces with all teams guaranteed 2 home and 2 away games. I know the Dubs in '01 enjoyed their trips to Thurles. I'm sure they'll enjoy a few trips of what they'll call Discover Leinster!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 23/07/2014 17:43:55    1624922

so this thread should be "Take Dublin out of Dublin"

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 23/07/2014 17:51:28    1624926

cuedue why do people like you believe that if your against 1 thing you are against everything, you ignore my idea of splitting Dublin which would be a big change. I would say i know more about Leitrim football then you, the are putting great work in to football as shown by them winning the Coonaught minor league, knocking out the all Ireland under 21 champions and winning the Fbd league, the were also leading Division 4 until the got a spate of injuries towards the end and we have seen how the 2 top teams in that division has done in the championship this season. The did get a bad beating by Down but the had lost half there team from the Ros game, it is ridiculous that the had to wait 6 weeks from there first championship game to the second game. The won a qualifier match a couple of years ago and could have beaten Laois, the have Donegal and Meath to extra time and would have beaten Donegal only for a terrible ref. What good would playing junior football do for them? are the current players going to bother travelling back to Leitrim from Dublin and Limerick for training in the hope of getting to a junior semi final that none will care about. Look at the Christy ring cup dumped at the start of June on a Saturday with zero media attention, will young players dream of getting to a junior final in a empty croke park or getting to a Connaught final. I saw Leitrim play in a Tommy Murphy cup final and none had any interest in it. There is also the financial effect of having to travel down to Waterford to play on front of 3 men and a dog or playing on front of 12k crowd against Roscommon in Carrick. Longford the second smallest county in Ireland beat the league finalists, Fermanagh if had all the Quiley brothers might still be in the championship now, Monaghan the fifth smallest county won ulster last year and got to the final again. What counties would you put together that would then be capable of winning the all Ireland. Also you will have a situation where some better teams are in the junior tier then the senior team and also what would the seventh to 14 best teams have to play for very little as there not going to win an All Ireland

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 23/07/2014 19:46:57    1625006

I never said they should play Junior ros1.It was a Leitrim official that said that.Splitting Dublin is never going to happen in my opinion.My two proposals are a two tier championship or the amalgamation of counties.There was a former Offaly hurler(forget the name),saying earlier in the year,that counties should amalgamate.Ive been saying it for a few years now.Anyway we know how slow things move in the GAA so it really looks like were stuck with what weve got now for the foreseable future.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/07/2014 20:07:01    1625017

For example id amalgamate Leitrim,Roscommon,Westmeath and Lonford.For GAA purposes these counties would become 1 new county/team.I would like to see 16 such teams,all with a decent pick of players and clubs.Because of the halving of teams from 32 to 16 we may be able to afford to pay the players professionally.Just something ive been thinking about for years.I know theres no real chance of it happening but who knows,50 years down the line or whatever.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/07/2014 20:19:33    1625024

Great idea and Wicklow (no titles), Louth and Dublin would be a nice county for GAA purposes

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 23/07/2014 20:35:34    1625028

Dublin and Cork would remain on their own.The other 30 counties(not sure what to do with London and New York)would have to be divied up so as to make 14 new teams/counties.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/07/2014 20:48:53    1625040

And how many Louth and Wicklow players would get on that team? None unless the GAA go down the route of forced positive discrimination. Not going to happen.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2990 - 23/07/2014 20:56:02    1625043

Kerry+Limerick,Kilkenny+Waterford,Wexford+Wicklow+Carlow,Tipp+Offaly,Kildare+Laois,Clare+Galway,Mayo+Sligo,Leitrim+Roscommon+Longford ,Donegal+Derry,Tyrone+Fermanagh,Cavan+Monaghan,Antrim+Down,Meath+Westmeath,Armagh+Louth,Dublin,Cork.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/07/2014 21:03:35    1625047

moylagh

but has ulster really been that compeitive ?
the stats wouldnt agree
since 1999-2014
armagh have won 7, tyrone have won 5, donegal have won 3
with monaghan being the only other county to win an ulster title in the last 15 years.
thats 4 differant winners

since 1999-2014
dubin have won 10, meath have won 3, kildare,laois and westmeath have all won 1 each
thats 5 differant winners

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/07/2014 09:01:56    1625093

Oh sweet Jesus such a load of tripe, amalgamating counties is as stupid an idea as splitting Dublin, of course not that anyone from the Capitol would realise the effects of such things, imagine the carnage around Carrick on Shannon if Leitrim/ Roscommon were to merge, or around Navan if Meath merged with anyone!!!!! Utter utter tripe, obviously the heat is getting to a few around here......

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 24/07/2014 10:48:41    1625140

Richie,i know its not going to happen.But i have spoken to lads that are receptive to the idea.Im not bringin it up again,as nobody seems to see any benefit in it.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 24/07/2014 11:39:07    1625180

Richieq
County: Meath
Posts: 1699

1625140 Oh sweet Jesus such a load of tripe, amalgamating counties is as stupid an idea as splitting Dublin, of course not that anyone from the Capitol would realise the effects of such things, imagine the carnage around Carrick on Shannon if Leitrim/ Roscommon were to merge, or around Navan if Meath merged with anyone!!!!! Utter utter tripe, obviously the heat is getting to a few around here......


Ok, good luck with your double digit beatings from the dubs for the next 10 years till a reform of the intercounty structure takes place.....oh I forgot you just need to get your act together...then everything will be fine.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 24/07/2014 13:26:03    1625292

hill that is conveniently ignoring the fact that dublin have won 9 out of the last 10 leinsters..and the time they lost was due to a complete freak result...why use 1999-2014....stats can be manipulated to suit ones argument i see

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 24/07/2014 13:51:03    1625313

fabio

becuase its a 15 year period and we are in 2014 i could have said since 2000 and we would still have the same teams
but i thaught 15 years would make more sense in terms of judging things as you generally stats are genrally done over
a period ending with a 5 or 0 thats all

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 24/07/2014 13:56:40    1625318

fair enough hill but things have drastically changed in the last 10 seasons you would have to admit...im not agreeing with the points stated in the thread by the way..kildare and meath really need to get their act together to make leinster competitive on a consistent basis as the smaller counties can be good for short periods but will find consistency very difficult and will need a lot to go right for them in terms of injuries and so on as the panels will be a lot smaller

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 24/07/2014 14:02:17    1625324

What about splitting Dublin in two? I'm amazed no one has thought of that.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 24/07/2014 16:08:21    1625436

Heat Stroke , I came in from my garden to escape the 29o heat I'm sweating like a Turkey thats just caught Bernard Matthews eye! after reading this post I'm going back out to the Sahara and take my chances. Good luck Dublin best in the business ATM ...................

fortyfive (Tyrone) - Posts: 5929 - 24/07/2014 16:35:56    1625451

Muckross there have been a few proposing splitting Dublin in two.I could never see that happening.We are all proud Dubs.We love ALL of our city,and county.Instead of making us weaker and trying to divide us,wouldnt amalgamating other counties,to give them a bigger pick of players,and a better chance of winning,be more suitable?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 24/07/2014 18:32:06    1625522