theshamen
Nonsense. From the purveyor of nonsense. Back a day or two and 'this Dublin team are overrated. Meath by two points'
Brilliant

Think it's a poor OP. Still 15 v 15. Dublin have always had a numerical advantage. The real issue is why other counties have fallen behind. The Meath I grew up watching wouldn't have thrown in the towel and certainly wouldn't be throwing the toys out of the pram cause they were beaten. Perhaps this is symptomatic of the problem. The generation coming through just give up to easy.
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Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 21/07/2014 21:17:29    1623515

legend splitting dublin in two would solve nothing. Their northside pick alone still dominate leinster and all their supporters would just support dublin north. It's a crying shame when the GAA was founded Dublin wasn't split then and Cork too.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 21:18:27    1623516

Kerry, pop. 145000. 36 all irelands
Dublin, pop. 1.2m. 24 All Irelands.
Meath. 185000. 7 All irelands

Grow a pair, concentrate on underage and support your County.

Laoch2014 (Kerry) - Posts: 1 - 21/07/2014 21:19:25    1623518

Spilt Dublin in two? All-Ireland final Dublin North v Dublin South, split it in three and we have a play off.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 21/07/2014 21:27:56    1623540

jackgoff

so we have 1 million to pick from haha
i didnt know women who account for 60 % of that number can line out for our senior mens team.
also the huge non national population that dont even watch gaa
then the amount of country people living in dublin
sure your forgetting that dublin dont even have the biggest amount of people playing gaa of all the countys
cork do!!! and thats the people you pick from people playing adult gaa in clubs
you can have 10 million living there if they arent all playing how can they be an advantage?
meath has very little other sports promoted in the county other than gaelic football
dublin has a huge spread of sports compared to meath
your just looking for somebody to blame after yesterday just move on man

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/07/2014 21:29:18    1623541

I'm sorry. I'll be a good submissive culchie and just accept that my county is just another lamb to the Dublin farmer

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The reason your county is just another lamb to the Dublin slaughter, Is all down to your own county board and the structures they have in place.

The reason you are so bad, Is cause of yourselves. Bottom line.

Not Dublin.

We showed your weaknesses up. Like any good side will.

Maybe if your county board took heed to this hammering and got off their arses and put in the effort like Mayo have in Connaught, Or Tipp in football (who only lost by a point against Cork this year), They could make sure this doesnt happen again.

Listen, You say you are talking about Leinster, fine.

The point i'm making is that outside of Leinster, there are counties with smaller populations than Meath and Kildare, Like Mayo, Who have been able to put it up to the Dubs on the biggest stage. They have beaten us in all ireland semi finals, And we have beaten them in the final.

If Mayo, A county with less population can put it up to the mighty Dubs, Then there is no excuse why Meath cant do it, And why Kildare cant do it.

The failings of our past county boards are well recognised by ourselves, this present board appear to be moving in the right direction but they have a lot of mess to clean up, this is in addition to the obvious difference in funding and sponsorship I outlined earlier, and as I said that doesn't mean were gutless or a disgrace as you said earlier. And honestly do you think Mayo are proud to be dominating Connacht and putting it up to the Duns in a final or beating them in a semi final??? Mayo want All Ireland's not Nestor Cups or moral victories, nobody wants to just put it up to the Dubs they want to beat them, Mayo are no better off than there were 10 years ago because Sam hasn't been won

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 21/07/2014 21:32:28    1623547

THIS IS ABOUT LEINSTER NOT THE ALL IRELAND.

Meath have actually won 21 Leinsters and their last in 2010. This is not just about Meath. It's also not about Kildare. It's mainly about the other 8 counties in Leinster who are wasting their time playing. Meath and kildare in the last 2 years ahve now joined this group. All of us will get worse as Dublin get better. Open your eyes. If the 6 nations was won by England 9 out of 10 times nobody would watch it or attend the matches. The championship has died a death and will only get worse.

Also stop with this clichéd nonsense "oh the meath of old would never say this." Well funnily enough one of those meath players of old just came out and said meath have been set back years. Mark my words by 2024 no other team apart from Dublin and possibly (Meath/KIldare once or twice at best) will have won Leisnter. That is not a competition worthwhile wasting everyone's time with. Remov Dublin and you will have 5 different winners by 2024.

I'm am saying it without any shame.

DUBLIN ARE TOO GOOD FOR THE LEINSTER CHAMPIONSHIP. THEY EITHER NEED A BYE TO THE AI SERIES OR BE MOVED TO A PROVINCE CAPABLE OF COMPETING WITH THEM.

Wake up and stop living in the past.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 21:36:10    1623551

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2224

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Spilt Dublin in two? All-Ireland final Dublin North v Dublin South, split it in three and we have a play off.

I take it you didn't read the opening post properly. Splitting Dublin in two is only a solution if you are winning 9 of 10 AI's. Splitting Dublin in two does nothing for at least 8 counties in Leinster who wouldn't be Dublin north or south. ANd I'd argue Meath/Kildare wouldn't beat Dublin north or South either.

So of Dublin split you still need to move elsewhere if you want Leinster to be competitive.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 21:38:39    1623558

Why does UEFA allow a newly formed 'country' as Gibralter, with its population relative to say, Russia ?
If any team wants to participate and take its potential hidings, why should the minnows of the GAA be not allowed to play ?
Do we want equality of 'opportunity' or 'outcomes' ?
At the end of the day, the AI Last 8 should be the best in the country !

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2598 - 21/07/2014 21:39:46    1623562

Maybe someday some poster,any poster,will agree with my idea for the amalgamation of counties.Dublin will never be split but other counties bar Dublin and Cork may amalgamate to create 16 teams or whatever.It would obviously have to break down county borders but if that could be accomplished i think it would leave these "new counties/teams"with as good a chance as any of winning the All Ireland.One example would be Westmeath,Longford and Roscommon becoming one county for GAA purposes.Ive yet to have one poster agree,or see any merit in it.Fair enough but i think it could work out ok?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/07/2014 21:40:49    1623564

This posted on th Dublin forum just proves even the Dubs are sick of hammering all before them in Leinster.

jd1963
County: Dublin
Posts: 5

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Definitely don't want Kildare we need a good hard match anyway we are sick of beating Kildare

hill16no1man
County: Dublin
so we have 1 million to pick from haha
i didnt know women who account for 60 % of that number can line out for our senior mens team.
also the huge non national population that dont even watch gaa
then the amount of country people living in dublin

I might take you a little bit more seriously if your arguments weren't always so biased. The ratio is still the same. Are you saying meath don't also have a population made up of 60% woman? Are you saying Meath don't have a huge Dublin population that either play soccer or support dublin GAA and contribute nothing to Meath. Wayno1 an example of this. Are you saying Meath don't have non nationals on top of the dubs? And I might add I see a few non nationals in supporting Dublin on Sunday, be they of indian, african decent. Oh don't forget a lot of people living in Meath came from all over ireland and don't support meath. Get a bus from meath to dublin for an all ireland hurling or football semi final/final and you'll see plenty of people from those counties living in meath. It's embarrassing how biased or ignorant you can be.

sure your forgetting that dublin dont even have the biggest amount of people playing gaa of all the countys
cork do!!! and thats the people you pick from people playing adult gaa in clubs
you can have 10 million living there if they arent all playing how can they be an advantage?
meath has very little other sports promoted in the county other than gaelic football
dublin has a huge spread of sports compared to meath
your just looking for somebody to blame after yesterday just move on man

another ignorant post. you don't live in meath so don't speak as if you do. SOme of our most talented GAA players over the years have gone on to be rugby superstars. Played with meeath until they were minor or u21 and then switched to rugby only. We have a lot of soccer clubs too. More than GAA clubs. My local area has 4 soccer clubs for the one GAA one and no hurling. So please stop deluding yourself with the notion that everyone in meath is from meath and plays gaa. We are very similar to dublin only difference is the non nationals in dublin are the equivalent of the dubs in meath.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 21:55:53    1623591

This I think is a ridiculous statement. All your options are pointless and would not make any sense what so ever. When you say things like Meath fans should stop going to these matches and let the Dubs wait for the AI it sounds like you are in favour of letting the popularity of Gaelic Football drop. Dublin are without doubt miles ahead of the rest of Leinster but that gap will certainly not increase. Other counties will find ways to counter Dublin in the next few years. I think a more sensible option to make the games more balanced in Leinster would be

Make Dublin play more games outside Croker

Hill 16 is a massive psychological advantage to Dublin. You see how often free takers are under increased pressure when shooting into the hill. The GAA should split the ticket allocation for the hill or allow all tickets in the lower David to be sold to the opposing teams fans. This would help balance this phycological advantage Dublin would have

PoppinPoints (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 21/07/2014 21:56:49    1623595

I don't care if we ever win the AI again, I'd just like to have 1 championship with a bit of excitement for all involved. Dublin are stopping that from happening.

I think Jack Goff this has to be one your worst ones on this thread yet. Dublin hammered Meath yesterday that's a fact. However to make the assumption that the championship is no longer exciting on this result is ridiculous. It's silly the over-reactions after yesterday's game.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 21/07/2014 21:59:32    1623598

It might be an idea to take them out of Leinster for the Railway Cup. Give the best of the rest in that province some chance for silverware.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 22/07/2014 08:35:24    1623602

ridiculous thread shut it down pointless conversation its not dublins problem that they are that good

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 22/07/2014 08:36:27    1623604

There was a time when 8 or 9 points was a hammering and double digits were rare. I think that the weaker opponent be it Meath in this case is open to a mauling on the scoreboard because of the black card. Before this year the weaker opponent was able to slow down the assault on goal by pull downs like S Cavanagh or craftier fouling that wasn't as noticeable.

ged (Louth) - Posts: 296 - 22/07/2014 08:38:04    1623605

Leinster football is in dire need of help. The province is terrible. There is Dublin and then there are a group of average teams and then another 4 or 5 that are just terrible. Not naming any names here we all know who is who.

At least if you look at Ulster there are a decent few teams you could say are in the high tier, Donegal, Monaghan, Armagh and Tyrone.
In Munster at least you have Cork and Kerry there. Tip I suppose seem to be improving.
Con Mayo are probably the only team you could throw in there but Galway will bounce back. In Leinster I fail to see anybody getting to that higher level.

Hurling is actually more competitive at the moment. There are 7 or 8 teams who could have a chance. Of course on current form you could throw KK in as the Dublin of hurling again.
Football there is Dublin and then realistically (maybe unrealistically) there are only Mayo, Kerry, Donegal and maybe Monaghan and Cork.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 22/07/2014 08:45:02    1623609

I could be wrong but the only explanation I can come up with to the responses of Jack Goff on this thread is that he/she must have grown up during the Sean Boylan reign. This is causing delusion that Meath have a right to be at the top table.

ged (Louth) - Posts: 296 - 22/07/2014 08:45:37    1623611

Hahahaha

This thread makes me happy

How very embarrassing

The message is basically

Everyone stop trying, Dublin are too good and we'll never be able to beat them... so don't bother supporting your county


pfffhhh... the state of yiz

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/07/2014 08:57:28    1623619

Dublin dominance wont last forever...it is swings and roundabouts. Stop complaining and support your county. Voice your anger and your own county board and structures, work on underage and eventually it will pay off.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 22/07/2014 09:14:43    1623626