It's a great to have Dublin in Leinster even if they are dominating. Leinster's next best if you could call them that Meath and Kildare love playing the Dubs. I think it's a great challenge for the players and the fans love it. Last week there was a great buzz among Meath people in anticipation of the final. Everyone enjoys the build-up to a Dublin game. Unfortunately, in this case, the outcome wasn't what everyone in Meath hoped.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 21/07/2014 19:39:44    1623383

There is more to life than winning Leinster championships.

The bedrock of the GAA is your local club, go and contribute there.

Your county in in Div 2 where they are competitive, support them.

There is the back door, so your county is still in the championship, support them.

Do something, anything, just stop whinging.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 21/07/2014 19:40:34    1623385

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Catch a grip Jack. We are one of the highest populated counties in the country, with Gaelic football the only show in town. Its not Dublins fault that we have buried our head in the sand for the past 20 years with regards underage coaching.

What does that say for the Carlow or Kildare team we hammered?

We'd destroy a lot of the other counties in Leinster too. Stop making this a Dublin v Meath thing. I accpet that meath have the ability to beat Dublin once every 5-10 years. WHat I'm saying is 8 Leinster counties will never beat Dublin again and meath/Kildare winning once in 10 years does not justify this joke of a championship.

Wayno the above answers your point. If meath had a 500k population and the various other benefits you have including playing all our league games in croker we'd be a much better team. But we will never have that and are doing ok for what we have.

Also take into account a large % of meaths population are dubs who either have no interest in GAA or no interest in meath gaa. the amount of dubs who have lived in meath all their life and if they were to ever make a break through they'd play for dublin.

I believe you've said before you live in meath and don't play GAA. That proves my point. You one of the most hardcore GAA supporters going living in meath and you contribute notihng to your local club. That's good for a dub living in meath. Most of them only play soccer and would be dublin band-wagoners.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 19:42:13    1623387

Divide Dublin into four teams, representing the North, South, East and West of the county, and have a Dublin team playing in every province.

The dubs get four chances to win a provincial and the All Ireland, and the rest of us get a more equal competition.

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 21/07/2014 19:42:32    1623388

we can compete with meath..reason being meath have been average for years..its meaths own fault that they find themselves in div 2 and div 3 year...they are a mess and have seriously declined...your point is a complete over reaction..at the minute dublin have an excellent team who are dominating a poor leinster championship as kildare especially are gone back quite a bit....i want an open all ireland championship preferably with groups as i feel the provincial champions are outdated in general...i am against a 2 tier or 'b' championship...people cant just go tipping meath before the game and when it doesnt go to plan then start complaining about how unfair the system is just cause results didnt pan out the way you wanted them too..you keep bringing up dublins resources...lots of other counties with similar playing populations to meath have shown they can be every bit as good as dublin and even better in some cases so why cant the likes of meath and kildare?...obviously smaller counties are going to struggle but we do our best and its all about getting the right county board right manager and a good set of players

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 21/07/2014 19:45:33    1623394

on a side point..i want an end to the provincial championships..i want an all ireland open draw system

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Don't see what difference it makes ?

What about when Dublin, Kerry and Mayo are still battering the Wicklows, Carlow's and Leitrims (With the greatest of respect to those sides) do ?

The top teams will still be destroying the minnows regardless ?

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 21/07/2014 19:56:39    1623407

Its gas Dublin take 16 years to win an All Ireland and nobody says a word. Now they win two in three years and its take them out of Croke park now take them out of Leinster. What next dont let them play.The GAA love Dublin they pay the bills namely clearing the Croke Park debt.

jd1963 (Dublin) - Posts: 16 - 21/07/2014 20:01:18    1623410

Great idea brainadams.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/07/2014 20:01:50    1623411

Wayno if not change aka dublin to a better province that can compete with them i also want them gone.

Champions league 8 groups of 4 teams. Everyone plays home and away. means the leinster counties actually have a chance of playing a few games without meeting dublin and getting slaughtered. 50% chance of only be able to play them before the final.

And if we do get Dublin in our group at least we get the opportunity to play them at home in navan for once and that would certainly give us more of a chance albeit we'd prob still lose heavily the way the gulf in class is going.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 20:14:41    1623425

Silly post, Dublin are excellent at the moment but its up to Meath to get our house in order at all age levels, Dublin should be commended for the way they went about matters at underage and minor, they are now reaping the rewards and fair play to Galvin for playing this brand of football. Cork were destroyed by Kerry a few weeks ago but like us they will bounce back and have a say before championship is over.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2144 - 21/07/2014 20:20:15    1623429

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There is more to life than winning Leinster championships.

The bedrock of the GAA is your local club, go and contribute there.

Your county in in Div 2 where they are competitive, support them.

There is the back door, so your county is still in the championship, support them.

Do something, anything, just stop whinging.

Terrible post. There is more to life than sport but this is a sports forum not a life forum. Go somewhere else if you don't want me talking about sport.

I contribute heavily to my local club so you can cross out that statement.

My county is in div 2 correct but I support them at every league and o'byrne cup game and will continue to support them in the qualifiers and AI series if we ever get there. I've just decided to stop paying good money for matches that are processions at best (aka the leinster championship). So you can scratch that statement too.

Lastly I'm not whinging. For the first time in my life I don't care about leinster anymore hence why I will no longer go to Leinster championship matches. I'll continue to contribute to the GAA including many a neutral match. I'm actually doing something and that's proposing the only realistic solution to bringing leinster back from the dead. So you can scratch your last line too.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 20:20:36    1623430

How much do you pay for tickets jd1963? Just so I know. I'm obviously not paying as much.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 21/07/2014 20:26:13    1623433

Its not as if Meath are the SECOND best team in Ireland and get hammered every year by Dublin.If that was the case,then there would be a problem.

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 21/07/2014 20:26:41    1623434

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Its gas Dublin take 16 years to win an All Ireland and nobody says a word. Now they win two in three years and its take them out of Croke park now take them out of Leinster. What next dont let them play.The GAA love Dublin they pay the bills namely clearing the Croke Park debt.

At the beginning of that 16 years you were not dominating Leinster but were competive for every all ireland coming close a few times in semi's. That is healthy for thr GAA and Dublin. But 10 years ago began a now unstoppable domination of Leinster. Your players don't even get up for it anymore and they still win easy. They didn't start playing till the second half of their Wexford/laois exibition matches. They only started well against Meath because they though they had to. How wrong were they.

That is my point. Nothing to do with Dublin winning the AI. If they start winning 9 out of 10 all ireland than we can start talking about splitting dublin but that is another thread for another day. This is about Leinster.

Your point about paying for the croke park debt sums up what is wrong with the GAA. They've fallen in love with Dublin because of the money they bring and lost sight of the bigger picture. The funny thing is Dublins dominance has meant a fall in gate receipts and if ever the Dublin support get sick of the annual exhibition they will suffer greatly.

Wexford and Loais brought less than 1000 each to their Dublin games and while meath brough a big crowd you will see less than 10k easily from meath from now on. Dublin v Meath used to sell out croke park but this year and last year it brought in 62k and 55k. Next Dublin meath match will be a lot worse. The decline in gate receipts will only get worse and good riddence to the Leinster counil. They went with the short term plan and not the long term plan.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 20:29:03    1623438

Jack Goff this is not your finest hour man
I take it your upset over yesterday and I think you will look back in a couple of weeks time and regret this thread
Everything you opened with is nonsense right down to copying the Kerry fellas stupid "Dublin region" phrase.
You list the game move on its not Dublin you should be whinging about as you sound like a sore loser on here
You should focus on why Meath have dropped back so far

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 21/07/2014 20:37:25    1623449

Nonsense at the moment but eventually Dublin will have to be separated gaa slow to change but will

theshamen (Mayo) - Posts: 129 - 21/07/2014 20:49:51    1623462

season ticket so i dont miss out on All Ireland tickets. Dont suppose you need one lol

jd1963 (Dublin) - Posts: 16 - 21/07/2014 20:54:00    1623474

i just feel the provincial championships are outdated in general waynol..i am well aware weaker counties are always going to be up against it v the bigger boys but there is plenty of instances where smaller counties have put up decent showings v some of the big sides in recent years...i just feel groups and an open draw would add excitement to the championship and it would be something different..the gap between fixtures between the championships is a joke and i feel it would be a more even system as the likes of mayo or kerry couldnt be accused of having an easier path every year..obviously the likes of dublin kerry cork and tyrone are more than likely going to be up there at the end of the season

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 21/07/2014 21:04:21    1623490

Split into 4 regional teams: Dublin City, Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown, Fingal and South Dublin. Enter them into a group of 4 and let the top 2 enter the Leinster championship! Bob's your uncle, Fanny's your aunt. Problem solved! :D

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 21/07/2014 21:04:48    1623491

hill16no1man if you were born in a lsser leinster county chances are you wouldn't attend very many if nay GAA matches. Itp's so easy for you DUbs to sit there saying it's up to everyone else to catch you. You realy don't understand how easy you have it.

I have come down from the match. It's the day after but before the match was even over I'd already stopped caring. Trust me I laughed my head off yesterday seeing some of the Dubs celebrating in Meath peoples faces during the ,match and as they left. It didn't bother me at all.

I'm glad we were hammered because it's opened my eyes to how every other county in Leinster feels and stands. Not too long ago Laois v Kildare Leinster final could sell out croke park. If that final paring was repeated next year you'd have under 50k at it. That's how much damage Dublins dominance is doing to the GAA in Leinster.

You've said it yourself Dublin 10 years ago had to get your house in order. Your set up was a joke and you were not taking advantage of your resources at hand. Despite Dublin being in as bad a position as possible you still won Leinster and you still made AI semi's. Now that Dublin have woken up how can you possibly say other counties should catch up when they could barely do so when they were at their best and Dublin their worst?

9 out of 10 Leinster how can you honestly expect people to travel to games when they know they will lose. I thought Dublin winning the AI would bring 80k sell outs and unbelievable atmospheres like Dublin had between 2005-2008. Instead it Dublin attendances have decreased since and the atmosphere is not as good considering every Dub knows they will win. And to that opposition supporters don't turn up it's bloody crap.

Laois/Wexford v Dublin fine examples. Kildare/Westmeath v Dublin the year previous. And lets be honest the atmosphere at the last 3 leinster finals was nothing compared to what they were before them. It's only going to get worse but the Dubs who love winning everything and the culchies who have to much pride to change it will ensure Dublin will need to win 19/20 Leisnter before anything is actually done.

I don't care if we ever win the AI again, I'd just like to have 1 championship with a bit of excitement for all involved. Dublin are stopping that from happening. It's a pity Meath are not based in one of the other 3.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 21/07/2014 21:16:17    1623512