Thanks admin.

Look that pic there doesn't paint Mickey Burke in nice light.

But it seriously casts into doubt his claim of a bite. The hand position, his finger etc. clearly evidence wrongdoing on the Meath players side. Paul Galvin got 8 weeks for the same offence.

Mickey Burke showing the ref his finger looks a bit like Luis Suarez holding his teeth a few weeks ago. Covering wrongdoing on his part.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 22/07/2014 13:40:03    1623950

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1623941 http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2014/0721/632096-o-se-backs-ogara-over-biting-claim/

Hope the admin lets this go through. It's a link to a page on rte that shows a pic of the incident. For me, it's clear cut.

O'Gara should be applauded.

Burke is no angel and if (as the picture would seem to suggest) he fish hooked another player then let him be punished for it appropriately. But to say O'Gara should be "applauded" for biting someone is just pure rubbish.

I am sick of hearing lads praising O'Gara for "not reacting". What is a bite if not reacting?? And don't tell me it's self defense because that amounts to be same thing, he reacted. Neither fishhooking nor biting are acceptable behaviours, end of story. So don't be defending one and lambasting the other. Give both of them suspensions or none at all.

Royalio (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 22/07/2014 13:53:49    1623966

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Realdub if ogara had bitten lyons or coyle his funeral would be today.

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Oh for God's sake, what age are you?? "If you're Da hit my brother, my Da would bash your Da"!!!! That sort of hardman
tossology belongs in the pub carpark. Cop on.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 22/07/2014 14:04:12    1623973

Nobody comes out of this incident in a good light.

Micko should not have said anything about it so quickly after the game - its generally not his style.

But O Gara deserves no praise in this whole episode and nor does Burke. I wouldn't be cast either of them as victim - they were both involved in an altercation and their actions should be reviewed by the GAA. No Meath person is going to stand over deliberately "fish hooking" as it is been called (but its not clear that it was deliberate) and nobody should stand over biting.

If i was a dubs supporter I wouldn't be happy about 3 biting incidents in a relatively short space of time. For all the lack of black and red cards recieved by Dublin over the past while they do seem to get a lot of latitude in other areas. Michael Dara McCauley in particular seems to be able to do what he wants on the pitch - constantly leading with the forearm.

There is an awful lot to admire in this Dublin team, including the incredible legitimate physicality they bring to the game. If i was the Dublin management I would eradicate this behaviour before the higher authorities even intervene - it undermines a wonderful team

CobraVengeance (Meath) - Posts: 46 - 22/07/2014 14:12:18    1623993

Mickey Burke, a Hurling man, complaining about a wee cut to the top of his finger...
Beggars belief, it really does....

The photo on RTE says it all in my view.

Time to move on.

Definitely painted the Royals in a bad light though, all this...
As other posters have said, MOD should have held fire until he knew the full picture.
Far too quick is making public an issue of all this

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3733 - 22/07/2014 14:36:34    1624042

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1: First incidence = Completey unproven - Dublin man waiting to give his account - Donegal player didn't show up

2: Dublin man put in choke hold and he bit to protect himself - put his hands up and accepted his punishment - has since returned and that's it over with - what came out of that incident - Choke holds in GAA perfectly fine, biting bad.

3: EOG gets fish hooked from behind as he's on his hands and knees - he has every right to defend himself against such an act.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/07/2014 14:45:57    1624058

Fionn,

I dont agree man, i don't think Meath should be ashamed, I think Charlie Redmond is wrong there.

If there is a bite, Of any kind, for whatever reason, I think it should be investigated and they are well within their rights to bring it up.

I don't think anyone will be punished and i've no problem with that.

We will all move on, But Meath obviously feel theyve a case and ive no issue with that.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/07/2014 14:47:25    1624060

biting is bad jim you clearly are letting your bias get in the way..i would like to bet you would condemn the opposing player if it was the other way round and a dublin player was bit no matter what the situation was

fabio8 (USA) - Posts: 2182 - 22/07/2014 14:49:45    1624065

If i was a dubs supporter I wouldn't be happy about 3 biting incidents in a relatively short space of time

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If, Eoghan O'Gara doesnt get banned after the inevitable investigation, It will be 3 biting allegations but only one that has been proven and the player found guilty.

I wouldnt be worrying all that much about the two allegations that players didnt get banned for.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/07/2014 14:50:31    1624067

What MOD says doesnt entirely add up anyway, I've no issue with him claiming it, He has every right to say it, But He said, and i quote "He's gone to the Dublin dressing-room to talk to the Dublin doctor because there's a protocol to deal with in terms of a bite, in terms of blood transferring from one person to another. Extremely disappointed."

There was no blood, If there was, Where is it in the still pictures


This picture >> http://www.sportsfile.com/id/890291/ Shows Mickey Burke showing the lino his middle finger on his left hand, No visable blood

This picture >> http://www.sportsfile.com/id/890187/ meanwhile shows Mickey Burke inspecting his right hand, If you look at his left hand there is no blood or any signs of a bite. (Thats not to say one didn't occur)

Either way, I've made my points on this as unbiased as i can.

At the end of the day i hope this is resolved one way or the other, And quick!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/07/2014 14:54:54    1624077

nobody still can answer the question where did o gara take out his gumshield to leave a bite mark as its been called?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 14:56:39    1624082

Gees Meath are awful bad losers. If hate to see their reaction had they been cheated out of a Leinster title...

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1794 - 22/07/2014 15:03:09    1624094

In relation to having his gum shield in place, I'm pretty sure O'Gara has a lower set of teeth in order to leave a mark. The gum shield only covers the top, unless the Dubs have been sponsored for some high tech gum shields no other teams are allowed have. Joking aside can everyone not just move on. In my opinion both should receive a suspension and just take their punishment. Nothing any of us say here will have an effect on the outcome.

Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 22/07/2014 15:05:50    1624101

And nobody will hill!

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 22/07/2014 15:05:56    1624102

Fabio, Dublin players have been bitten! They have also been otherwise abused. Do you know why you nevr heard about it? Because Dublin don't go whinging to the media.

And not only Dublin. I have heard some of what was done to the Gooch over the years. Did he go whinging? No he did not becuase he is a man not a little boy.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 22/07/2014 15:08:38    1624105

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biting is bad jim you clearly are letting your bias get in the way..i would like to bet you would condemn the opposing player if it was the other way round and a dublin player was bit no matter what the situation was

Completey disagree.

I'm looking at EOG as a human being who has the right to defend himself - not a Dublin player

If someone is fish hooking you - I think it's perfectly acceptable to bite.

Simple as that.

I just see it as a natural reaction.

EOG has every right to protect himself from such an act, be it on a pitch or on the street - you should have a right to protect yourself against serious harm

Who knows the damage he could have received if he didn't act in that manner - even with a gum shield in his mouth - such a violent act could cause considerable damage to the inside of his mouth.

As such... he did the right thing. I have no problem saying that... because it's simple common sense.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/07/2014 15:12:58    1624110

A bit of context here lads. If a biting incident has been made a note of in the referee's report, the CCCC will investigate the incident. Also, if a bite occurs, both team doctors have to swap notes to check on potential blood related issues. Any incident of noted biting HAS to be investigated.
However, I would be surprised if EOG has a case to answer for due to the fact that Burke's finger was in his mouth. If anything Burke has more of a case to answer for in regards what his finger was doing in O'Gara's mouth in the first place. I'm yet to see any video evidence of O'Gara seeking out a body part to bite. I'm not condoning biting but if you put your fingers down a mans mouth and come out with teeth marks you can't be too surprised.

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 22/07/2014 15:15:40    1624116

Triple H,

Burke should receive a suspension.

He fish hooked O'Gara. That's definitive.

What would you do if someone had a finger in your mouth!? Wait until he damaged your face!?

O'Gara defending himself against a vile act. Self defence.

Burke I have zero sympathy for

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 22/07/2014 15:19:46    1624123

it stated it was mentioned in refs report
so now they actually under rules cannot suspend either player
a he gave them both yellow cards at the time of the incident and the rule is they cannot be suspended as its classed as being dealt with during the match

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 15:20:23    1624125

I agree with you NavyNBlue

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/07/2014 15:20:51    1624129