Cue Tipp beat a Galway side that ran out of steam that is my view. The target for Dublin is the all Ireland series, Daly is holding this team back for this game he has learnt from other years in peaking to soon. Tipp are the new Galway you just don't know with them anymore, I hope I am wrong about Tipp.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 23/07/2014 20:53:56    1625042

Id agree that KK are ahead of the best but I cant see Cork beating Dublin or Tipp.

I cant see how you can be so confident on KK. You were supremely confident on Clare and equally confident on Tipp beating limerick. At what point will i wonder you stop talking down to ppl. Surely your confidence must have taken even a slight knock by now.

I expect that KK will play and prob beat us in semi (as based on form we should beat wexford and form is all any of us have to make projections). However lets look at this kk team. It is no longer the greatest team that has played the game. It is no where near as good as the kk team that needed a replay to beat Galway.

Solid keeper 2 top Corner backs but Im not convinced JJ hasnt stayed on a year too long. They tried to replace Brian Hogan at 6 and failed. Holden has been tried all over and dropped and now is brought back to 5. No analyst (before leinster final where he played v well) could understand Buckley at 7. Now there alone you have an ageing 3 (in his prime one of the greatest ever) a 6 who they decided wasnt good enough but who they couldnt replace a 5 who they dropped but had to bring back and a converted midfielder wing forward at 7.

As for midfield Id say Hogan is current favourite for hurler of the year and he will do untold damage to Limerick in my view (if we beat wexford). I would rate fogarty as an average inter county hurler.

Walter Walsh Padraig Walsh are no world beaters with Walter being taken off most days and Padraig playing a bit like Kelly did for clare which is a trick that is now outdated. Fennelly is a fine hurler but so too is Tom Condon. As for Eoin Larkin again he was dropped during the league but they couldnt replace him and John Power again is no world beater. Their first sub most days is Aidan fogarty who wasnt good enough to start or even be a sub( most days)3 or 4 years ago. They also can call on Henry for 10 mins and M Fennely and L Ryan may make an appearance or one might even start but cant be at their best as they dont have any games played.

So Kilkenny favourites but certainly not invincible. A combination of ageing players young lads making a name for themselves and 3 or 4 who would get on their team of 4 or 5 years ago. They are the most beatable KK team in my view for 12 years or more. I would rate the kk team that lost to Cork in 2 AIs as better than this team.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 20:56:46    1625044

Brian Hogan is a top centre back df,whether he was dropped or not.U seemed to miss TJ Reid in your surmation,vying with Richie Hogan for player of the year at present.KK may not be at the peak of their powers,but their gone through the front door,albeit with a Galway scare,will be well rested and fresh for whoever they face.Theyve been down this road so often,they will be fierce hard to beat for either Limerick or Wexford.I think Limerick will shade Wexford on Sunday,and ye will give Kilkenny a right battle,but i see the cats reaching another decider in September.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/07/2014 21:20:40    1625053

Df I never talk down to people it's just my view is all. Can I ask you which of the KK players would you not have on Limerick team now not taking a swipe at limerick just using them as example as your a limerick man. The thing with KK they are never happy with team always trying to freshing it up has nothing got to do with player not being good enough it's about bringing it to another level the while time even when they are winning that's what makes them different. They have the panel and are not afraid to use it because they are all as good as each other no other team left can say that.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 23/07/2014 21:26:52    1625056

Ya I noticed that after the post cue. I suppose subconsciously I was dropping reid ha ha.

I agree with your summation on both matches. That is why I say KK favourites but certainly not unbeatable.

Their biggest advantage Id say is their sideline easily the best left in the c ship but I still want a crack at them they will be beaten someday and we are overdue a big one.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 21:28:45    1625057

I honestly think that whoever wins between Wex and Limerick will beat the Cats.

I do think Dublin will be better on Sunday than in Leinster final but bookies have it about right.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/07/2014 21:41:46    1625061

Sorry realtmo but of a player is dropped it is cos Cody thinks he not up to it. Cody won't give anyone a run cos ge is as good as another or to give someone a run. Cody is ruthless n he tried tyrell cos he thought hogan wasn't good enough same with Holden eoin Larkin n John power.
I say again kk are favs but they r nowhere near as unbeatable as they once were.

Galway rattled them n tipp showed how poor Galway r.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 21:49:54    1625068

Provided KK play Limerick OR Wexford, I dont think R Hogan will do untold damage. Both teams have midfielders that will get into his face and have the pace and fitness levels to do so.

Having said that its no assumption they will play either

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 24/07/2014 08:32:39    1625082

All you have to do is read the Limerick site in relation to Limerick versus Wexford to see what Limerick think of Wexford.
A lot of talk about unfinished business which doesn't even include us in the equation. Talk of winning All-Irelands and the such and beating Wexford would be a step back for them.
Fair enough they have been well ahead of us in recent years. Wexford still being dismissed on the basis of only beating Clare who are a shadow of the team last year and a not so great Waterford team who a bit like ourselves are building again. Fair comments too!!
But then again Limerick and Munster hurling in general have always been a bit dismissive of Wexford and the likes.
In my opinion it's all about confidence and if Limerick have half the confidence as their supporters on this site they will beat us out the gate at the weekend.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 24/07/2014 10:55:31    1625147

disillusiondfan
County: Limerick
Posts: 2746

1624920 TK you pinkie I was trying to post something on that but wasnt permitted.
I know decent Wexford hurling people dont want Wexford to be known for that kind of hurling.


I don't know what your talking about. What's wrong with what I said? Dunne hurler Kirby off the pitch in 96, what's the problem with that. No harm in me giving a bit of a giddy-up for Wexford!

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 24/07/2014 11:22:48    1625170

24/07/2014 11:22:48
Nick
County: Wexford
Posts: 1023

1625170
disillusiondfan
County: Limerick
Posts: 2746

1624920 TK you pinkie I was trying to post something on that but wasnt permitted.
I know decent Wexford hurling people dont want Wexford to be known for that kind of hurling.


I don't know what your talking about. What's wrong with what I said? Dunne hurler Kirby off the pitch in 96, what's the problem with that. No harm in me giving a bit of a giddy-up for Wexford!



You are a messer.

Wexford fans seem to be on an internet campaign this weekend to stir up tensions. It is not going to work.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 24/07/2014 11:27:45    1625172

Hoover78 I think there are about 2 on here trying to stoke up dislike and tension which I want to completely distance myself from. Have many friends from Limerick and nobody thinks this is anything other than a 50/50 game, may the best team win it and I am sure you are the same yourself - 2pm on Sunday wont come soon enough....

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 24/07/2014 11:38:12    1625178

I love this not a word about cork
We do love being the underdogs lol
We comprehensively beat the all ireland champions
we comprehensively beat the Munster champions
and we are being given a chance by no one
i even read here someone said dublin would beat us. Dublin wouldnt have beated the kilkenny minors based on their last performance
So please please everyone keep talking up kilkenny and we will quietly go about our business
Rebels abu

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 24/07/2014 11:38:18    1625179

Nick, please stop stirring and posting horse manure. Please read the thread in its proper context, you have only picked out little bits. And of coure it would be a step back as it would be for Wexford, Chip, Dub, KK or Cork if they loose!!

GerMan (Limerick) - Posts: 38 - 24/07/2014 11:39:21    1625182

I agree with my fellow Tipp poster KK look on course for Liam this year. It will take a mighty team to stop them. Even on a bad day they will still beat you 9 times out of 10.

I would expect Limerick to give them a game should they beat Wexford. I would fear for Wexford should they meet KK. I know they wont or dont fear them but KK can just exploit you and Wexford have been hanging on in games this year against Clare & Waterford.

Also Dublin will shock Tipp on Sunday IMO. We are very lax a daisy around half back and midfield. Im still having nightmares of P.Maher at full back.
Plus our forwards who are some of the best in the country when tightly marked just go out of the game. We have improved immensely from the Limerick game and for Tipp to be at the AI QF for me is an achievement in itself.

We have been papering over cracks all year and those type of teams do not win All-Irelands.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 24/07/2014 11:48:07    1625191

It looks like a Cork v Kilkenny All Ireland, but may not work out that way. I think Tipp will beat Dublin on Sunday, they won't want to lose 3 big games at home this year. If Wexford can reduce their wides total, they can beat Limerick. There is great deal of expectation in Wexford

Personally I would like to see a new team, Wexford, Limerick, or even Dublin, despite earlier prediction, win Liam this year, it would be good for the neutrals.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 24/07/2014 11:53:43    1625197

disillusiondfan
County: Limerick
Posts: 2746

1621777 I'd be gutted if we don't beat them. We "should" be at a more advanced stage and we do have better players. Also of the other 4 teams left the wexford sideline is the one I would least worry about. I'd expect us to win comfirtably enough.

What horse manure. See the above post and there are many more similar ones on the Limerick site (many many more). All I am doing is pointing out the facts. Limerick are very confident and they don't mind saying it on their own site. This was the next post after this one and these were basically the first 2 posts after a Cork mans commentsL

someday
County: Limerick
Posts: 387

1621782 Wexford may go on and win this one but if we are to be taken seriously as all irl contenders we need to be clipping wexford relatively comfortably.Thats with no disrepect to wexford i just feel we are 2-3 yr ahead of where they are and have no doubt they'll be contenders in next few yrs.Just hoping not this yr.

Here is another and that was only on the first half of the first page. And I think that's was 3 out of 5 first post.

GAAFan14
County: Limerick
Posts: 36

1621795 To bring back Wexford to reality it has to be said that Waterford and Clare are two teams who were easily disposed of by Cork and Wexford struggled to put them away. We matched cork for the vast majority of the munster final so there's no doubt in my mind that Limerick are the better side. However, Wexford have gained serious momentum over the past 3 weeks and need to watched closely. If the game is close with 15 mins to go, I expect limerick to win as Wexford tend to become very wasteful towards the end of games. Should be an excellent game!

And one in between these group was a Limerick man pointing out a fellow Limerick mans dismissive comments of Wexford. So tell me am I really talking manure?

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 24/07/2014 12:01:31    1625207

thelongridge
County: Offaly
Posts: 179

1625197 It looks like a Cork v Kilkenny All Ireland, but may not work out that way. I think Tipp will beat Dublin on Sunday, they won't want to lose 3 big games at home this year. If Wexford can reduce their wides total, they can beat Limerick. There is great deal of expectation in Wexford

I think the word expectation would be changed to 'hope'.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 24/07/2014 12:08:05    1625215

I fancy Tipp & Limerick to win the quarters.Limerick/Wexford being the toughest to call.
That would set up 2 very interesting semis Cork / Tipp and KK / Limerick.
At this stage I would rank them as follows , 1. Kilkenny 2. Cork 3. Tipp 4. Limerick 5. Wexford 6. Dublin.
Winner to come from the first 3.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 24/07/2014 12:11:31    1625219

Nick if u don't know what happened that day then you should. Admin won't allow me to say what happened. Lets just say broken fingers are not self inflicted

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 24/07/2014 12:19:07    1625228