freetaker1 I think I remember the game you are talking about, it wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that it rained about 3 inches during that game and that Wexford were at our lowest most indisciplined uncommitted ebb ever? A lot of water under the bridge since. Dont forget there was a very low ebb for Limerick in recent years too when players were on strike.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 22/07/2014 15:49:24    1624175

LRH
I wonder why you would begrudge your neighbours, who are the only other Munster county to repeatedly enter into a Home/Away arrangement with Clare and over decades at that, a victory over a side which has won more recently and are from the far end of the country. Thank God most Clare fans I know will be rooting for us next Sunday as we would be for the Banner if the roles were reversed, and in fact were a few weeks back.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4337 - 22/07/2014 16:25:29    1624230

Freetaker, I remember that game in Wexford park in 2009. I had a stand ticket and was told by the steward the stand was full to go into the terrace. When I told the steward I booked the tickets online for the stand and showed him the ticket he said "I don't know anything about the internet" lol. In fairness been down to Wex park a few times since and they've got their act together more these days. Dunnes in Wexford town that evening was full of Limerick people buying dry clothes after the monsoon. At least we won anyway. Back to the present, narrow wins for Limerick and Tipp. Should be two good games.

enver (Limerick) - Posts: 128 - 22/07/2014 17:46:43    1624304

Remember 96 Dunne versus Kirby lads!! Come on Wexford!!

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 23/07/2014 11:42:21    1624693

Nick, why in gods name did you bring that up?

Back to the hurling, I am very hopeful of a Wexford victory. I dont believe it will be by a big margin, I think a point is the difference between these teams. Limerick of course will be confident but so are we. We have had our darkest hour about 3-4 years ago, or even longer maybe 7-8 years ago when we lost to Carlow at minor. I dont think we will win the All-Ireland but at the start of the year I do remember targeting a semi final and I think this is a realistic and achievable goal. Having said that, if Limerick beat us I will wish them the best of luck and would love to see them win it if we dont.

The 2nd game, I think Dublin will spring a shock. I think the Kilkenny game will have brought them on, Tipp are a bit Jeckyl and Hyde and I think this could be the shock:

Overall: A Leinster double! (I could end up with egg on my face on Monday but sure hey, it's a guess and that is all it is!)

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 23/07/2014 17:08:31    1624902

TK you pinkie I was trying to post something on that but wasnt permitted.
I know decent Wexford hurling people dont want Wexford to be known for that kind of hurling.

Im sorry but I think you are out on your first prediction. We have taken a slating for being dismissive on our own site but if we just stick to hurling Limerick are far better than Clare or Waterford based on the two games we have played this year and on form (nothing to do with disrespect or being dismissive just based on form) Limerick should win. Wexford do have momentum and that could help but we have been here before. Of course if Limerick do win most on here will change Wexfords momentum into Wexford's fatigue but we are used to being written off in Limerick and in truth we prob deserve to be a lot of the time. So Limerick Dublin for me

Thanks again for sorting out Nick. I think if the administrator knew where he was coming from he wouldnt have allowed that post. Wexford have been the hurling story of the year and even IF ye lose on sunday it will have been a good year and Wexford hurling has come on leaps and bounds. If we lose it will be a disaster and set our team back years.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 17:36:46    1624920

I expect Limerick to win on Sunday but losing to a team like Wexford will not set Limerick back in any way. The same applies to Wexford. Both teams are on a similar level on the form shown so far this year so it is no shame to lose to the other. And with Wexford flying it at under 21 level for the last few yrs and Limerick the same at minor level, these two counties could have many a battle over the next few yrs.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 23/07/2014 18:02:02    1624933

We were in an AI semi last year, Wexford posters started the year by talk of breaking into top 8 (which they have done)to fail to an up and coming team this year would set us back. I was in Thurles last night and if you expect any of those lads to make an impact in sufficient numbers to overcome the disappointment of not building on last year or indeed atoning for last year then you are kidding yourself.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 18:09:35    1624938

Limerick don't have a strong enough panel to win an all Ireland so we are relying in the minors coming through to bring us to the next level. So anything until then is a bonus. We are working from a core of 17 players, 18 max, and of those about 5 aren't good enough for inter county hurling never mind relying on them to win an all Ireland. To lose will not set Limerick back in any way. In fact it might speed up the process of getting rid of the dead wood

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 23/07/2014 18:17:21    1624941

Pinkie

No its not, that game had fight heart and determination from Wexford , it was 2011 or 2012 league match but thast defeat put Wexford in a relegation against Laois which in fairness they won but I was very surprised at how flat and lifeless Wexford where that day, you could sense it in the crowd even.

freetaker1 (Limerick) - Posts: 754 - 23/07/2014 18:26:50    1624950

Sorry pinke, I confused myself, wrong page :P. But that day in 2009 Wexford fought like tigers, its after that wexford last their mojoe. pinkie you don't have to remind me the hiding we got off tipp that year put me off Hurling , I spent 30 mins in Croke park after the game as i thought I would never see a limerick there again. I had a bad injury at the time at I was never so flat or disinterested in the sport and if you knew me that would shock you. But the players with drawing their services drew a line in the sand, and removed the gorilla off the back in terms of losing the All Irelands in the 90's. The attitude in Limerick has changed and it needed to.

freetaker1 (Limerick) - Posts: 754 - 23/07/2014 18:33:18    1624954

mike03

I am thinking the same way, the point taking ability of those minors is on a level far above what is currently there with the exception of mulchay, Hannon and dowling, we lack natural forwards and the reality is we have a midfielder in at 11.

freetaker1 (Limerick) - Posts: 754 - 23/07/2014 18:36:55    1624960

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Limerick don't have a strong enough panel to win an all Ireland so we are relying in the minors coming through to bring us to the next level. So anything until then is a bonus. We are working from a core of 17 players, 18 max, and of those about 5 aren't good enough for inter county hurling never mind relying on them to win an all Ireland. To lose will not set Limerick back in any way. In fact it might speed up the process of getting rid of the dead wood

I have to say that is the closest to my mindset. We are a few short of the top class and it will be 3/4 years before i am 100% confident going into games. As Mike stated we have 3/4 players there not even related to the top class and we don't have the neccessary nouse or hurling to win an AI at this juncture for my money.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 23/07/2014 18:50:08    1624973

We all look forward to new forwards coming through. How many do either of u think will come through next year. Last night our two best forwards were Tom morrissey and Peter casey neither of who will play senior for at least 3 years. Now r lynch has said he will not play senior next year so earliest he will play senior is 2016. As for c lynch based on his recent displays n size i doubt we will see him before 2016. That leaves us with none of those forwards ye both talk about till 2016 and at best 3 in 2016. They will then be coming in to a team that was one time a top 4 team but if wexford pass us out night no be top 6 or 7 team. Morale n confidence levels will correspond to decline in ranking. Now anyone with half an idea of what is going on will see that as a set back for 2 or 3 years.

As for being far off AI u have never known lk fans to be so upbeat after losing a c ship match as we are now. Standards nationwide have dropped. After Sunday if we have 4/1 shot and ill take my chances against an ageing kk an inconsistent tipp a cork side with poor backs and an unknown Dublin. All to play for.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 18:55:04    1624978

How can you say with conviction that Tom Morrissey will not play senior for at least 3 years. There were many young players in Clares All-Ireland winning team last year. Limerick are Munster Minor Champions 2012 and 2013,it is reasonable to expect players coming through sooner than you suggest.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 23/07/2014 19:45:07    1625003

Mike I have to agree with you but make no mistake limerick will be very good in few years, Df nearly took head off me for saying this at start of year but I said for limerick I felt myself this year was about winning Munster again first off and then target all Ireland I cant see ye winning all Ireland this way. Limerick need to build on these minor teams and win at 21 level and to start getting the few to make the step up to senior. I also said the minor were best chance of all Ireland glory and will stick to it but management need to stop messing around and settle with best 15

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 23/07/2014 19:46:36    1625005

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Mike I have to agree with you but make no mistake limerick will be very good in few years, Df nearly took head off me for saying this at start of year but I said for limerick I felt myself this year was about winning Munster again first off and then target all Ireland I cant see ye winning all Ireland this way. Limerick need to build on these minor teams and win at 21 level and to start getting the few to make the step up to senior. I also said the minor were best chance of all Ireland glory and will stick to it but management need to stop messing around and settle with best 15


+1 and add a very good Tipperary crop, Clare, Kilkenny, Cork are a good young side, Wexford improving hand over fist and you understand it will never be easy to win one.

You have to grasp the moment and go for it when it arises.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 23/07/2014 20:06:32    1625016

Faileog I cannot say anything with conviction no one can with minors but to me he needs to speed up a bit. The U 19s who made Clare team were faster lighter n better hurlers than morrissey and wexfords McDonnell is much bigger stronger n better in the air.

Realtmo all the teams that are left have flaws. The AI was won last year by a team who u predicted would do back to back n who I predicted would lose to Cork and wouldn't make the semis. Clare had flaws n whoever wins this year will have flaws. We needed the cork match to lbring us on. I'm not making us favs but I am saying we are not without hope. I certainly have zero interest in waiting around for 3 or 4 years when it is easier to win an AI now than it has been for 10 or 12 years. If n its a big if we beat wexford and kk then tipp or cork are favs to make final. We would certainly fancy our chances against either like wise Dublin.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 23/07/2014 20:10:34    1625019

Kk will wipe what's before them Df they are the real deal and only team left that don't have problems and please don't say ageing team they are still ahead of the rest. They are in a semi without getting out of 2nd gear. Cork will beat Dublin and Kk will win other semi with KK giving Cork a hiding in final

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 23/07/2014 20:28:05    1625027

Why are you so dismissive of Tipp beating Dublin realmo?Did u see the Leinster final?Surely Tipps last 20 minutes v Galway would give you some hope?I think well see a big Dublin performance on Sunday,but i fear it will come up a tad short.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/07/2014 20:41:53    1625035