I'm not defending Mickey Harte for his actions after the game today, but I can see why he was annoyed, as the time keeping has become a joke. Firstly, with the amount of black cards handed out in todays game, adding two minutes wasn't enough time. Also, in injury time at the end of the second half, the ref should have shown discretion as far as the time is concerned, as there was several stoppages in the two minutes. It seems crazy that the time keeping can be controlled properly in ladies football, but not in the men's football.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1656 - 15/06/2014 18:05:57    1603965

This happens ALL THE TIME. Then it happens to the golden boys and now there's gonna be a big discussion. I raised this topic 3 years ago when it happened to us in Omagh in 2011 and I got shot down. I think its hilarious the Tyrone folk are going on about this now.

Adler (Monaghan) - Posts: 754 - 15/06/2014 18:36:16    1604000

Where the ref got two minutes God knows. Monaghan players were going down 'injured' alot, there were 12[?] substitutions, the fress by the goalies take up alot of time and is it not supposed to 30 seconds per substitution, there were stoppages in the two minutes and he decided to blow it up when Tyrone had won possession...

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 15/06/2014 18:42:12    1604007

With all those stoppages near the end I was expecting 5 minutes of injury time.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2992 - 15/06/2014 18:56:25    1604026

Adler +1

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 15/06/2014 19:03:02    1604039

I remember timing a game in Thurles last year out of my own interest. Stopped the clock for every stoppage.

By the 70th minute on the clock I had only 64 mins on mine yet there was 1 minute added on.

crossfieldball (Galway) - Posts: 650 - 15/06/2014 19:45:31    1604077

Ah here lads if you were to be that precise nearly everyatch would have about 10 mins added time
We complain about everything in the Gaa
Yet other sports have mistakes a lot bigger but don't make half the fuss about it

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/06/2014 19:56:50    1604086

um..doesnt ladies football be that precise?

crossfieldball (Galway) - Posts: 650 - 15/06/2014 20:09:43    1604097

Time keeping is a big issue. Were the referee got 2mins from at the end of the Tyrone game was a joke.

M Harte had every right to be upset they had all the momentum and I would have fancied them to have got a draw.

There should have been at least 5mins extra at the end of that game. Time keeping needs to taken out of the control of referee's.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 15/06/2014 20:15:02    1604103

Thought the same in the Cork vs Clare game. Two Cork lads collided with 10 mins to go, there was at least 3 mins of stoppage time in that incident alone plus the usual host of substitutions and other hold ups. Yet the ubiquitous ' there will be at least two minutes of additional time ' was trotted out. Its becoming a bit of a joke.

facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 214 - 15/06/2014 20:52:29    1604124

Subs are not included in additional time in Gaa
Why do people not get this they never have been included

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/06/2014 20:58:00    1604128

70:00 min foul
70:42 free hit
71:03 kick out
71:12 foul
71:36 free hit
71:52 whistle
72:07 throwup
72:12 Over
Ball in play 30 secs

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 15/06/2014 21:46:11    1604173

What about the typical Grab All Association, ref playing for a draw, GAA looking for another payday etc jibes? Today the referee blows up for time after the 2 additional minutes are up, with the team trailing by a point on the attack, and he gets stick for it as well. To be a referee in the GAA must be up there as the most thankful task in sport. Especially as it is one of the linesmen who do time keeping now anyway, not the referee.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/06/2014 09:43:35    1604231

If Mickey hadn't of decided to bring his keeper up to take that free at the end there would have been plenty of time for another phase of play..

Well done Monaghan.

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 16/06/2014 09:50:34    1604239

Stop the clock aka rugby for injuries and substitutions and start again when ball is in okay. It is not that hard. When the seventy minutes is up a goitre goes off and there are zero issues. Jesus it is like we are in the dark ages. Tyrone were right, it was an absolute disgrace, should have been 5/6 minutes injury time yesterday.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 16/06/2014 09:59:44    1604248

In play and hooter.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 16/06/2014 10:07:52    1604258

Soma
County: UK
Posts: 328

1604231 What about the typical Grab All Association, ref playing for a draw, GAA looking for another payday etc jibes? Today the referee blows up for time after the 2 additional minutes are up, with the team trailing by a point on the attack, and he gets stick for it as well. To be a referee in the GAA must be up there as the most thankful task in sport. Especially as it is one of the linesmen who do time keeping now anyway, not the referee.


Timekeeping is still the responsibility of the referee. He blows when the time is up, regardless of whether someone is on the attack or not.

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 16/06/2014 10:19:29    1604274

The referee obviously blows the whistle Torcaill but it is the linesman apparently who tells him how many minutes of additional time should be played. The ref yesterday was told a minimum of 2 minutes and then blew up after 2.12 minutes. My post was meant to say the refs job is a 'thankless' task, and the fact he is getting abuse for blowing the whistle when he did is a great example of why it is so difficult to get referees in many areas. It is a pity that modern managers take their inspiration from Mourinho rather than Micko, and so now referees are blamed for all defeats by some.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/06/2014 10:37:49    1604292

HokeyPokey
County: Tyrone
Posts: 1681

1604173
70:00 min foul
70:42 free hit
71:03 kick out
71:12 foul
71:36 free hit
71:52 whistle
72:07 throwup
72:12 Over
Ball in play 30 secs

I don't see what the issue is here. Normal amount of time to take frees, kickouts etc.
Injury time is for injuries. Not substitutions or kick out or throw ups etc.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 16/06/2014 10:42:50    1604301

The referee obviously blows the whistle Torcaill but it is the linesman apparently who tells him how many minutes of additional time should be played. The ref yesterday was told a minimum of 2 minutes and then blew up after 2.12 minutes. My post was meant to say the refs job is a 'thankless' task, and the fact he is getting abuse for blowing the whistle when he did is a great example of why it is so difficult to get referees in many areas. It is a pity that modern managers take their inspiration from Mourinho rather than Micko, and so now referees are blamed for all defeats by some.



I agree with this and your previous post but I was just pointing out that it is the ref and not the linesman / 4th official who decides how much added time there will be. The ref relates this to the 4th official who then displays the amount to be added on.

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 16/06/2014 10:53:11    1604313