Hypothetically.......

Talking football now for a start....

One IC league tournament with a Cup running parrallel

Start in late April, finish in Spetember. Games every weekend for everyone.

The rest of the year for Club championships etc

Two divisions, relegation to Div 2 and Promotion to Div 1 active

Split the cup into 2 regions (Connacht/Munster & Leinster/Ulster) with a play off between both winners

Play Club Championships from October to March?

Is it feasible, could it work?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/05/2014 09:47:00    1595011

I think you'd need a playoff system at the end of it.

People love finals!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13724 - 29/05/2014 10:39:08    1595051

Games every-weekend for everyone ?When do players get a rest ,? Do you stop u21 s Youd need some panel , club game would suffer , and my god you'd need deep pockets ,
Be a no from me .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 29/05/2014 10:43:32    1595053

Would an all Ireland structure work in English soccer
No they are different sports and nobody would have any interest in just copying soccer
I wish people would stop looking at England or soccer thinking we have to follow them at everything
The Gaa works fine it wouldn't be the biggest sport in the country if it didn't

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/05/2014 10:44:18    1595055

You are not too far there Liam.
The structure of the AFL in OZ I think would go down well.
Could split into 2 groups of 16/17 and top 4 from each group go into the 1/4 finals

So even the worst teams will get 15/16 games a year. With so many games it would take away from all the over training and allow players to actually play football and get a good consistent run at it.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 29/05/2014 10:57:16    1595069

Mes Amis, you get a league winner, you get a Cup winner, winners of both play off against each other for the All Ireland Final

Play the cup final after the league finishes so that way if the same team wins both, they assume the all ireland champions mantle automatically

So, 3 trophies

League Winner
Cup Winners
All Ireland Winners

Also Relegation to Div 2, Promotion to Div 1

All teams enter into Cup

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/05/2014 11:12:35    1595080

Damo

i would 100% do away with the U21 competitions yes, but I would do that regardless, and considering the amt of personal sacrifice lads put in as it is, do you not think the lesser teams would not prefer MORE games especially against teams of their level? As opposed to being scrificial lambs to the super powers as we often get nowadays

Hill, its hardly an "english soccer" template! Its pretty much universal and encompasses most sports FFS lad!

Your hatred of all things English clouds your very valid opinions at times my friend

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/05/2014 11:27:50    1595089

29/05/2014 09:47:00 Liamwalkinstown
Hypothetically.......
Talking football now for a start....
One IC league tournament with a Cup running parrallel
Start in late April, finish in Spetember. Games every weekend for everyone.
The rest of the year for Club championships etc
Two divisions, relegation to Div 2 and Promotion to Div 1 active
Split the cup into 2 regions (Connacht/Munster & Leinster/Ulster) with a play off between both winners
Play Club Championships from October to March?
Is it feasible, could it work?

Not bad but how much of an off season would you have where virt no hurling/football would be played?
Why split cup up? Any reason behind that
29/05/2014 10:43:32
Damothedub
Games every-weekend for everyone ?When do players get a rest ,? Do you stop u21 s Youd need some panel , club game would suffer , and my god you'd need deep pockets ,
Be a no from me . Maybe not games every weekend but you don't have to play full strength side every week. Club game wouldn't suffer if everything properly managed
29/05/2014 10:44:18 hill16no1man
Would an all Ireland structure work in English soccer
No they are different sports and nobody would have any interest in just copying soccer
I wish people would stop looking at England or soccer thinking we have to follow them at everything
The Gaa works fine it wouldn't be the biggest sport in the country if it didn't Its nothing like that and soccer is worlds biggest and most successful sport. Large number of sports have same format.. GAA has plenty of other reasons why its largest sporting organisation in country and works ok while flawed..
29/05/2014 10:57:16 woops
You are not too far there Liam.
The structure of the AFL in OZ I think would go down well.
Could split into 2 groups of 16/17 and top 4 from each group go into the 1/4 finals
So even the worst teams will get 15/16 games a year. With so many games it would take away from all the over training and allow players to actually play football and get a good consistent run at it. +1
29/05/2014 11:12:35 Liamwalkinstown
Mes Amis, you get a league winner, you get a Cup winner, winners of both play off against each other for the All Ireland Final
Play the cup final after the league finishes so that way if the same team wins both, they assume the all ireland champions mantle automatically
So, 3 trophies
League Winner
Cup Winners
All Ireland Winners
Also Relegation to Div 2, Promotion to Div 1
All teams enter into Cup that sounds real good Liam. Well thought out...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/05/2014 11:42:59    1595105

We need to do away with the league and incorparate it into the championship. Champions League group stages are not the answer either. I believe the NFL in America has the perfect answer to give us a proper structure that keeps teams playing 10 games a season at least, keeps the local rivalry, every team has silverware at the end of it but also keeps the knockout stages of the championship from a last 12 situation. My proposal is here [url=]http://www.johnmulhollandbookmaker.blogspot.ie/2013/06/reform-all-ireland-series.html

This competition would start in May and run to early September.

Full GAA Season could run like this:

Febuaray-Sigerson Cup
Feb, March, April- Local Club championships- Try to have finals around Easter weekend
May-September-All Ireland championship and minor championship starts after leaving cert
September-October- All Ireland Club Championship with final last weekend in October
November-Railway cup or Game versus Australia
December and January=off season-No intercounty training allowed

shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 213 - 29/05/2014 11:50:13    1595112

Full GAA Season could run like this:

Febuaray-Sigerson Cup
Feb, March, April- Local Club championships- Try to have finals around Easter weekend
May-September-All Ireland championship and minor championship starts after leaving cert
September-October- All Ireland Club Championship with final last weekend in October
November-Railway cup or Game versus Australia
December and January=off season-No intercounty training allowed

So you play the county final in April then wait 5 months for the provincial?

If the GAA needs restructuring it is to decrease the amount of Inter County games not increase them

CLUB BEFORE COUNTY

shea (Kerry) - Posts: 409 - 29/05/2014 12:55:20    1595153

I can see it now, the GAA Ovaltine Premiership!!!!

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 29/05/2014 13:18:17    1595175

some interesting proposals but I would discount playing club championships at the worst time of the year(s) weatherwise October to March.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2993 - 29/05/2014 13:23:25    1595180

Liam do you play with a club or just follow Dublin?

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 29/05/2014 13:23:59    1595181

hill16no1man, I agree we shouldn't copy soccer, but you cant really be suggesting that the current system works(or even makes sense). For example ,if Tyrone beat Monaghan then they will have beaten Down, and Monaghan to reach the semi finals of Ulster, while Galway only had to beat London to reach the semi-finals in Connacht.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1656 - 29/05/2014 13:27:27    1595185

Brian Mac, i played all the way thru the underage grades to Minor football but never progressed to juniors/seniors cos we Moved

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/05/2014 14:57:32    1595219

shea
County: Kerry
Posts: 331

1595153
Full GAA Season could run like this:

Febuaray-Sigerson Cup
Feb, March, April- Local Club championships- Try to have finals around Easter weekend
May-September-All Ireland championship and minor championship starts after leaving cert
September-October- All Ireland Club Championship with final last weekend in October
November-Railway cup or Game versus Australia
December and January=off season-No intercounty training allowed

So you play the county final in April then wait 5 months for the provincial?

If the GAA needs restructuring it is to decrease the amount of Inter County games not increase them

CLUB BEFORE COUNTY

Yes Shea I would run club competition like that. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but intercounty is the revenue driver so will always be first. My proposal means the local championship will get precedence before the intercounty even starts. Counties and managers could use proper club games to test the quality of their squad and spot potential new players coming through.

Once the Intercounty season begins we have teh club teams playing in their own league miuns the inter county panels with a universal appraoch to the league taken where league position doesnt equate to championship position so teams who lose more to the intercounty panel are not unfairly disadvantaged in their championship.

As for then waiting until September/October to start up the All Ireland CLub championship.. Why not? It's set in stone and it can get the media attention it deserves unlike now when its squeezed into November/January and Febuary up against the intercounty game. It would mean sacrifising the ST Patricks Day games but I think it would be better to run it this way and have the whole season in the same calandar year rather than flip around my proposal and have the county club games starting in September/October/November and have the All Ireland club championship in Febuarary and March but others might disagree

technically if we pulled the Intercounty All ireland finals to August instead of September we'd get more of a run at the club championship in late August/September

shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 213 - 29/05/2014 15:50:06    1595256

The day a system like that comes in is the day the GAA becomes a professional organisation because stuff like that takes serious commitment even more than what they give now

tuppy23 (Meath) - Posts: 154 - 29/05/2014 16:25:58    1595291

The Sigerson Cup needs to be scaled back or abolished altogether. The only reason players treat it so well is because the colleges are looking after them so well.

Years ago a college competition was a good idea because players were often away from home for long periods. That's no longer the case.

Former_Poster (Meath) - Posts: 394 - 29/05/2014 17:45:34    1595347

Yea I think that would require a professional set up.
16 games at a minimum with one every week is too much for an amateur. Unless they completely give up club football players could play 40 games a year if they had a decent club championship run. God forbid if they won the county and had to play for a club all-ireland!

white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 29/05/2014 20:31:47    1595428

liamo


if its hardly an english soccer thing then why does the title use the premiership in it come on man
why do people always assume that you have a hatred of all things something just because I dont agree with copying them on everything
its lazy way of responding and ignoring the facts

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/05/2014 21:00:40    1595453