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Is there any dark horses for the football championship?

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Mr_Pundit
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1594904 @Rosfan
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How so and which part of my post to you disagree with?

I think We could on a run and possibly get to round 4 or even a qf if the draw is kind which it has not been over the last 3 years. I just cannot take anything you say about Roscommon seriously since you obviously have some sort of vendetta!

Rosfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 778 - 28/05/2014 21:10:31    1594924

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Derry have a great chance in the qualifiers in Group A where they are , only the match to see them get to a quarter final could see them pitched against either Kerry / Cork or Galway. up to that they should win their matches.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 28/05/2014 21:36:58    1594954

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Rosfan
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1594924 Mr_Pundit
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1594904 @Rosfan
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How so and which part of my post to you disagree with?

I think We could on a run and possibly get to round 4 or even a qf if the draw is kind which it has not been over the last 3 years. I just cannot take anything you say about Roscommon seriously since you obviously have some sort of vendetta!

Rosfan, if ye lose to Mayo ye are in group B, this will have Meath, Kildare ,Down ,2 from Tyrone, Donegal and Monaghan. Ye would want to avoid the big bad Nordies they've a few good teams there if your to go on a run, but sure stranger things have happened.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 28/05/2014 21:52:48    1594972

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Don't know much about the group system as I'm in England and don't get the papers allthe time. Saw a bit on Sunday about it all right but is down not in one group , like could they meet Derry. What about Mon or Tyrone as one of them will be through the back door also. Would fancy Derry to give Cork/Kerry plenty and could beat either. Nice Semi Derry v Mayo.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 28/05/2014 21:54:52    1594974

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Meath will go well this year, reckon they can take a scalp in the qualifiers and make the quarters.
Anything can happen then.

Like boxing, its a game of styles. For the likes of Donegal if they get their tactics spot on they have the potential to beat anybody.

bobby_shane (Dublin) - Posts: 106 - 29/05/2014 08:25:14    1594989

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These groups ,, do they play among one another and if so how do they come to the last four. Now that would be the four teams to play the defeated provincial finalists. ????
Never told us what group Dublin are in.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 29/05/2014 08:50:58    1594992

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SamOnErrigal I have great admiration for that Donegal team and their achievements. But yes I would put my house and the shirt off me back on Dublin putting them away this summer if they met.

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 29/05/2014 09:29:36    1595005

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Donegal at full tilt could beat the Dubs alright.

But they'd need a massive improvement on their 2011 performance to do it.

Outfought and tactically out thought on the day.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 29/05/2014 09:43:41    1595010

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IMO in order for Sam are Dublin, Cork, Mayo, Donegal, Monaghan. Outside of this group, only teams capable of making a serious impact are Kerry and Tyrone. To Complete the last 8, one from Meath, Kildare, Galway, Derry, Cavan, Down, bit of a lottery with this lot but won't get any further. Would be pleasantly surprised if less than 4 from the first 5 aren't in the semi finals.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 29/05/2014 09:48:11    1595012

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Meath for me are a team who could spring a surprise this year, they are as much of a dark horse as any Division 1/2 team can be.

I also think Roscommon could rattle the establishment, by latthering a big name team or maybe winning Connaught.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 29/05/2014 09:52:43    1595017

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Floops
Careful you don't end up both homeless and naked. Ha ha.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 29/05/2014 09:52:55    1595018

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Galway are going to go well this year and if they get to Croke Park they will improve by 30% and be a dangerous proposition

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 29/05/2014 09:57:17    1595020

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Meath and Roscommon are two that are probably capable of taking a big gun out in the qualifiers perhaps.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 29/05/2014 10:30:37    1595039

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Donegal scrape past a shot-shy Derry team in a low scoring encounter and now lads are tipping them to beat what is probably the most complete footballing machine in the history of our great association.

Some lads fair lose the run of themselves.

Dublin would bate Donegal by about 12 points. Only a headcase would back Donegal to beat Dublin. Be very surprised if they even got far enough to play them.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 29/05/2014 10:34:00    1595043

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GaryMc82
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1595017 Meath for me are a team who could spring a surprise this year, they are as much of a dark horse as any Division 1/2 team can be.

I also think Roscommon could rattle the establishment, by latthering a big name team or maybe winning Connaught.

Meath will do nothing ever again. They have almost become something of a poor-mans Longford.
Id agree with you on the Rossies - a fine and proud county who fear nobody. Great tradition and decent sporting fans too.

Direct contrast to the so-called "Royals" and the dregs they attract.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 29/05/2014 10:37:36    1595046

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Meath will do nothing ever again. They have almost become something of a poor-mans Longford.
Id agree with you on the Rossies - a fine and proud county who fear nobody. Great tradition and decent sporting fans too.

Direct contrast to the so-called "Royals" and the dregs they attract.

Jesus what happened Horse??? Did your missus sleep with a Meathman and now you have a vendetta against us??

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 29/05/2014 10:44:32    1595057

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SamOnErrigal
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1594992 AthCliath
These groups ,, do they play among one another and if so how do they come to the last four. Now that would be the four teams to play the defeated provincial finalists. ????
Never told us what group Dublin are in.


SamonErrigal, There is a group A and a Group B. These groups are already picked and become relevant if you get bet up to the provincial final as to what group you go into. Winners of leinster and Ulster will play two teams that come through the qualifiers in group B .Winners of Munster and Connaught will play two teams that come through group A qualifiers. Group A and Group B don't meet each other.
Losers of Ulster and Leinster finals go into group B.
Losers of Munster and Leinster finals go into group A.
Dublin are in group A ,but we would only go into group A if we lose before leinster final. Donegal are in group A but would only go into it if they lose before Ulster final.

Basically Mayo, Cork, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Fermanagh, Antrim, Wexford, laois , Wicklow to name a few will end up in group B.
Dublin, Donegal, Tyrone,Monaghan ,Down, Cavan, Meath ,Kildare, Roscommon will end up in group B.
Tyrone could get Down again if they lose to Monaghan. there is potential for repeat fixtures ,although provincial final pairing cant meet again in quarters.

Quarters = Leinster winner v group B winner, Ulster v Group B winner.
Munster winner v Group A winner. Connaught Winner v GROUP a winner.

Semis Leinster /group b winner v Ulster/group b winner
Munster / group a winner v Connaught/ group a winner.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 29/05/2014 10:58:05    1595070

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GaryMc82
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1.5017 Meath for me are a team who could spring a surprise this year, they are as much of a dark horse as any Division 1/2 team can be.

I also think Roscommon could rattle the establishment, by latthering a big name team or maybe winning Connaught.

Meath will do nothing ever again. They have almost become something of a poor-mans Longford.
Id agree with you on the Rossies - a fine and proud county who fear nobody. Great tradition and decent sporting fans too.

Direct contrast to the so-called "Royals" and the dregs they attract.

Hahahaha fantastic A laois man talking about tradition in ross with all their all ire. Obviusly a wind uo post, spoken by a man from a county with no tradition, no hope if a breakthrough and no supporters as was proved by the royal fans outnumbering laoise by 3 to 1 in league game....

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In portlaoise......

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/05/2014 11:21:08    1595084

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Take it steady on this Dublin team. What we saw in the Div I final and in the semi final against Cork , Dublin look like a team that should retain the All Ireland.
Now let's look at the last 3years of the later stages of the championship.
2001::::: beat a Donegal team that was just beginning to emerge. Two points at the final whistle.
2011:::: Final against Kerry , won by a point and only for a wayward pass by D o Sullivan I don't think they would have won.
2012::::Beat by Mayo in the semi after failing to play at all in the first half, or they might not have been allowed to play.
2013::: won the All Ireland again by a point with some of their young players having an in and out day in that final Before that Kerry had them on the ropes in the Semi final , game was level at 69 minutes.
Now they could be a lot better than all the other top teams , we don't know and one thing is for sure this year will tell us how good they are. I can't see how you rule out Meath, could be Dubs toughest test and if Donegal get as far as to play Dublin ( Dublin also has to get that far) then I'd expect JMcG to have his homework done , come up with a solution that we can contain Dublin , don't have them running all over you and you never know how it would pan out.
You must have been really hard done by Meath people. Hope you don't get the same dislike about Donegal.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 29/05/2014 11:34:48    1595100

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2011 beat Donegal by 2, might as well of been 22 the rate of scoring that was in that game

2011 dominated Kerry keeping them to just 3 scores in 45 odd minutes of football - nearly blew it but got their just desserts

2012 played Mayo in the first rugby league match to be played in Croke park - missed the memo.

2013 had the final won at half time.

2 managers 2 systems 2 Sam Maguires.

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 29/05/2014 11:55:30    1595116

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