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Terriffic second half by both teams,although Waterford played well all the way through. Was looking very dodgy for the Rebels when they went nine points down, but they buckled down and pulled a draw out of it. Thought the Cooper lad from Youghal made a big difference when he came on in second half. Great credit to Waterford here,nobody outside their camp gave them a chance, but they done their county proud today. Best result you could ask for today and great result for hurling.

clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 25/05/2014 19:14:10    1593267

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Opportunity missed by Waterford. We need Shanahan, O Halloran and Stevie Bennett in the forwards and O Sullivan at mid with Darragh Fives in defence, hopefully all back soon. Then we have a real chance. Team for the future I hope.

ron_burgandy (Cork) - Posts: 45 - 25/05/2014 19:29:23    1593280

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I was wondering whether it was the Cork juniors playing in the first half.Deary me ive never seen such an insipid,lacklustre showing from a Cork team.However they showed admirable spirit and superior fitness levels to claw out a draw and i would fully expect them to finish the job in the replay.Waterford played clever hurling in first half and seemed far more up for the battle but ran out of legs towards the end.The young lad Gleeson looks a star in the making.On a different note the paltry crowd was dissapointing and id imagine the replay will be equally so.You could almost hear the growns from the crowd when the final whistle was blown.There should be extra time played in all games.Draws are a real anti climax for all concerned,both players and supporters alike.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 25/05/2014 19:31:23    1593282

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Corks scrambled goal came at the perfect time

Gave them a life line and they took it

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 25/05/2014 19:35:57    1593284

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If there were only 9000 at the match then it is a complete embarrassment for both counties supporters, Cork in particular.

There were close to 2 full houses at the 2 big football matches this weekend yet a match where the the second biggest GAA county in ireland were competing in can't even get an attendance of over 10,000.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 25/05/2014 19:37:05    1593286

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the reason there wa a small crowd is that people have cottoned on to the fact that early championship games are really only glorified challenge games.the real stuff starts at quarter final stage when waterford and cork will both be involved anyway..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 25/05/2014 20:21:42    1593306

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Not much more can be said than has already been said above, great credit to both teams but I thought some of the shooting was junior B standard at times. The game livened up in the 2nd half but the first half was dire.

Regarding the attendance, considering it is the Munster championship which appears to be the sacred cow in the GAA, I fail to see how a championship opener with 10k people at the game backs this up. The dogs in the street know the Munster championship is not what it used to be and the real action only gets going once the championship becomes knock-out. If we want the provincial championships to continue and to prosper, this has to be the structure of them.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 25/05/2014 20:45:49    1593317

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And then the rest of the GAA world is expected to travel to Cork to fill their white elephant in a cul de sac when they themselves won't travel up the road to Thurles! Great sporting county me ass!

westisthebest (Galway) - Posts: 444 - 25/05/2014 20:50:40    1593319

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I'm absolutely amazed at the crowd estimates. I was in old covered stand and certainly from the covered area back it was almost full. Looking across at other stand apart from the 2 sections on either end, that was also full. There appeared to be a reasonably good crowd behind the Kilinan end. Town End wasn't opened. There were a huge crowd of kids there and I suspect they got in free and wouldn't be counted. Re the Match itself Cork were diabolical in first half but came back well after going ten behind with a little over 20 minutes left. Every credit to Waterford, they were excellent and can consider themselves very unlucky not to have won. Very exciting 2nd half, hurling is up and running let us enjoy it.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 25/05/2014 20:54:00    1593320

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how many of waterfords injured players namely Daniels , Philip Mahony , Darragh Fives , Molomphy , Shanahan and Stephen Bennet will be back for the replay ? I presume Shane O'Sullivan will also be available again after suspension

stekhli (Dublin) - Posts: 3121 - 25/05/2014 21:22:48    1593345

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The Munster championship is where it is at!

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 25/05/2014 21:31:19    1593352

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The supporters were watching it in a bar in Sydney/Melbourne/Toronto/New York etc.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 26/05/2014 08:20:13    1593375

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The actual attendance was just over 16,000. Disappointing to see it having fallen away so much. I remember 1999 when cork and Waterford met. Though Cork went on the win the AI that year neither side would have been really expected to be in the shake up come September. There were 45,000 there that day. I suppose it was a munster semi and there was no back door (apart form provincial final users) so that would have made a difference. Still it is some drop off all the same.

Sad to see the Waterford support fall away to such an extent. They drew huge numbers a few years back. A drop in fortunes on the field the well publicised mess the county board finances are in and the retirements on some real house hold names like Flynn, Shannahan, Brown and McGrath have all in their own way contributed to the air of gloom and low expectation over the county.

I'd say it there was 3 or 4,000 Waterford fans in yesterdays crowd from Waterford that was as much as there was. They have some great under age talent in the county. It would be great to see some one like Austin Gleeson step an become the next Waterford hurling superstar and bring the hurling buzz back to the county.

That said I hope we can take them in the replay!

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 338 - 26/05/2014 09:46:58    1593400

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First of all great credit to both Waterford and Cork, great game of hurling and fair result in the end. Anyhow just want to comment on the attendance and as a Waterford man who loves the game and who has travelled up and down the country following Waterford for a long time now, I wasn't there yesterday. I'm not having this crap though that's been posted on here that we should be ashamed for not travelling. Nobody can ever accuse Waterford people of being glory hunters or bad supporters as we've always travelled in numbers year after year which more often then not ends in heartbreak but we always come back again. The only reason people didn't travel is NOT because of the structure of the championship like people have suggested in above posts. The real reason is because as a city and county Waterford is on its knees. I know the whole country has been hit but Waterford is literally on its knees. People don't have the money anymore and that's fact. I'm out of work like many others and have 3 young kids who I always take to games but I cant afford to do it anymore so why should I or any other supporter who didn't travel today be ashamed. Iv been running buses to games for over 20 years now and while we used to have no bother filling the bus over time half the regular lads we started out are now either in Australia or Canada. The majority of the rest left are scraping the barrel to make ends meet so it sickenens me to read posts on here saying we should be ashamed. As well as that per population we're a hell of a lot smaller then Cork and Dublin and Limerick ect.

Also on the home and away agreement that other counties have, it was proposed by the Waterford county board after the draw was made that a toss up could take place for home advantage between between both counties but was knocked by the GAA, Walsh park got a bit of a revamp with new terraces behind both goals and on the far bank and although its nothing special it now has a capacity of 17,000. Fair enough its well below standards set but if attendances for Munster quarter finals for the last few years is anything to go by then its well big enough. Maybe the finger should be pointed at the GAA, a full Walsh park with 17'000 would certainly have added to the game as well as giving Waterford people an opportunity to to avoid travel expenses presuming they won the toss. Anyhow roll on two weeks time and may the best team win. Up the Deise.

Trev1977 (Waterford) - Posts: 1 - 26/05/2014 09:49:19    1593401

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1593220 Arock,
This game had everything........Except supporters. Waterford and Cork fans should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. When I think of the debate about Sky TV and showing the games overseas, its sickening. All the moaning about people wont be able to see their team play etc. What a load of codswallop. The GAA need to be doing something about attendances and maybe do what they do here in the states when a game is not sold out they black out television coverage in the local markets. Maybe if the signal was blocked in Cork and Waterford if the attendance is less than say 80% full at throw in time.
Cork and Waterford supporters hang your heads in shame, it shows the lack of appreciation for the efforts of the players and the work they put in. 10000 at an intercounty senior championship game from what is supposed to be 2 hurling counties in a stadium that can hold nearly 4 times that amount. Neither county deserves to go any further, I feel sorry mostly for the players. Shame on you all.


I wouldn't have a problem 'travelling' if every Cork game was in Pairc Ui Chaoimh. And I wouldn't be too quick to pontificate either if they were.

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 26/05/2014 09:58:26    1593405

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As usual, some ridiculous childish comments on here from the same numpties.

"hang your heads in shame" Why???? The attendance was on par with previous first round games.

Clondalkin, I see you're still spouting about refs giving us everything. At least your drivel is consistent with last year.

Credit to both teams on an entertaining game in conditions that were difficult for hurling.
Waterford will probably be kicking themselves that they didn't close it out.
I expected nothing less from Waterford as they're a great hurling county.
looking forward to the replay lads, and you can bet there will be nothing between the teams again.

bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 277 - 26/05/2014 10:44:43    1593430

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"The actual attendance was just over 16,000". Where are you getting that from?. The GAA authorities actually report a higher number when attendances are very small, like we saw yesterday. They do this to keep a positive spin on falling attendances. The 70 million redevelopment of PUC should be stopped now as there is no need for it.

Clubgaa (Limerick) - Posts: 879 - 26/05/2014 10:46:45    1593432

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munster counties block any reform of the hurling cship [badly needed] to protect their beloved munster cship yet they get brutal crowds at lots of games [look back last 5/6 years]

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2848 - 26/05/2014 11:01:26    1593438

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all the talk of playing games in croke park half full
well thurles holds 53 thousand
there was about 10-12 thousand there yesterday
thats between a 1/4 and a 1/5 of the capacity
next weekend tipp play limerick in thurles again
yet strangely the replay for cork v waterford is not fixed along with it
surely a double header in thurles next sunday could have be lined up

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/05/2014 11:19:08    1593444

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Cork have a major problem winning ball from the puck outs it was a big problem against Clare last year and they need to fix it or they won't last too long,when they do have it they look great

Corkny (Cork) - Posts: 16 - 26/05/2014 11:54:33    1593470

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