i really don't see why people are surprised about coldrick getting a number of big calls wrong against tyrone on sunday...we have very short memories...coldrick has history against tyrone going back to 2012...he reffed tyrone's games that year against donegal and kerry and made huge "blunders" during both games...then we have bannon wading into the debate...where did he come from all of sudden..remember his decisions in the 2009 semi-final..ricey clean through for a point and blowing the half time whistle...he made sure that day he got his own back for the tyrone county board stating that they didn't want him reffing games back in the nineties

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 21/05/2014 21:33:54    1591656

Look folks - i am getting a bit ****** off at the ref slagging but we need them. Without them there is NO GAME. All the debate is so far about standard of ref in the game last Sunday is all ifs and buts. What if Maginn was sent off for the first pull down - whos to say Benny Coulter or Ryan Johnston would not have come on instead and scored that goal or maybe even more. Whos to say that another ref would not have given Tyrone the extra yards for the 45 and the free kick at the end to draw the game. Whos to say that another ref would not have sent Morgan off - viewing it from behind the goal it was a tackle that could easily have got a red card. Whos to say that the new player for Maginn (assuming he was black carded for the earlier incident) would not have pulled Cavanagh down. It is all speculation and ifs and buts.
Both teams are still in the competition proper and both with another chance to win and go through. However before this happens and before there is a winner we need a referee and god knows what Cormac Reilly will do on Saturday. He'll make decisions that one or other team will not like and likewise he'll make decisions that might leave each of us scratching our heads wondering what we got that for.
Refs are human and good luck to them for having the balls to do that job. Lay off them. They do not kick the wides or misplace the pass. They are usually the scapegoat for our own inadequacies. Generally they do a pretty good job. When was the last time you did something wrong or do you always get it right all of the time?

anduna (Down) - Posts: 210 - 22/05/2014 09:11:02    1591709

The conspiracy theorists are out in force now. Why can't people accept that no team gets all decisions their way? It is pathetic to blame results on referees, especially when you still have a replay in which to make amends. I was disapointed in the Tyrone management using that excuse because I thought they were above that. I'm just looking forward to the game now and it's all to play for. Hopefully there is no more gamesmanship from either side and the team that plays the football will win. I think An Dún by a point.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 22/05/2014 09:40:00    1591718

It was quite a sight at healy park with 5 minutes to go on the clock. Down had managed to get in front by two points, next thing it was like the D-day landings out there. I counted three Down men lying on the pitch, it looked like a scene from Private Ryan. But no doubt it was due to the mystery injury know as cramp. Lucky enough wee James McCartan was sending in subs at about 3 minutes to go to help these boys out.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 22/05/2014 10:56:54    1591753

Ye and the other scene where s cavanagh got shot near the end brilliant stuff alright

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 851 - 22/05/2014 11:50:15    1591776

prideof85
County: Monaghan

LOL

No Sean was fouled by a Down player

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 22/05/2014 11:56:06    1591785

Good news Sean Cavanagh after the best william defoe ( platoon) shooting , has recovered .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 22/05/2014 12:00:28    1591789

One surely has to question the logic behind appointing Cormac Reilly to referee Saturday's replay. Another Meath man to referee the game. Down fans will be delighted but equally Tyrone will have reservations. Is Reilly not the man who sent Martin Penrose off at half time in the infamous Tyrone Monaghan Quarter final last year - a game remembered for the Sean Cavanagh tackle or non tackle?

Simply - In my opinion Reilly blundered in that game and as a result it is almost certain that any element of doubt will see him favouring the home side. Tyrone have shipped criticism in recent years but many of the big calls have also went against them. Thin back to last years All-Ireland semi final defeat to Mayo, Peter Harte was taken out and no action and then the penalty that give Mayo the winning mentality was never a penalty to begin with.

No matter what the outcome both teams will learn from two competitive games. Down in Newry will be hard to beat. Tyrone have the form and the pedigree to secure a win but actually doing it is another. It all adds up to what is just another weekend of Ulster Championship entertainment - the best competitive entertainment out of the four provinces by a country mile.

lomanaiochtabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 22/05/2014 13:06:12    1591829

Some fair enough points being made about referees. A great bunch of lads. Here's some footage of Mickey Harte & wee James to lighten up the mood before Saturday's game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KPsofCVUu8

MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 22/05/2014 14:01:07    1591858

People doubting the referee before a game ? ... Amazing.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/05/2014 14:28:28    1591870

Winners play Monaghan right? If I was from Monaghan I would be worried,as whoever wins this game will have two good battles going into the following game..

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 22/05/2014 14:38:42    1591883

In fairness to Cavanagh,he does know how to win a free...

ziggy320001 (Meath) - Posts: 2432 - 22/05/2014 14:41:45    1591885

drumlinbelt that is correct the Cavan match was a preliminary
round replay and Monaghan the quarter final.

But that was in 2007 and weve had one home Ulster Championship
since(Tyrone replay 2008)so Ulster Championship matches in
Newry are very rare.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 22/05/2014 14:58:12    1591895

Looking forward to the replay n Saturday and to Sean Cavanagh getting more points for my GAA fantasy team!

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2996 - 22/05/2014 15:11:21    1591906

Down need to get the ball to Mark Poland more in the replay.
Tyrone cut off the supply to him in the first half but he
still scored an excellent point.

If he gets enough good possession he will destroy that
Tyrone defence like he did against Donegal(a much
better defence) in the league game at Pairc Esler.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1628 - 22/05/2014 15:30:27    1591925

When Cavanagh pulled someone down and got away with it that was cynical. Front page news.

Now according to the President if someone pulls down a Tyrone player and gets away with it, its negative for Harte to mention it.

It's almost like some people don't like Tyrone ;-)

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 22/05/2014 18:50:30    1592068

lilywhite1
County: Kildare
Posts: 1813

1591906 Looking forward to the replay n Saturday and to Sean Cavanagh getting more points for my GAA fantasy team!

How many points for a dive, I would have given a 9 for last weeks one ;)

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 22/05/2014 20:03:38    1592104

I think the Presidents comments are an absolute disgrace. Mickey Harte has been one of the most positive commentators on Gaelic football. He has however been very vocal in his opposition to some of the new rules and that does not sit well with the hierarchy. He rarely makes comments about referees and even when he does it is normally about the consistency of decisions and not about individual performances. We have seen a witch hunt of certain Tyrone players in the media and by the disclipinary bodies. We have been consistently selected for special treatment over the last few years. You just wonder how much Tyrone's unwillingness to deal with RTE is behind all this.

MB1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 360 - 22/05/2014 20:45:10    1592121

ziggy320001
County: Meath
Posts: 525


In fairness to Cavanagh,he does know how to win a free...

We had a player like that back in the 80s who was great at winning a free (wont mention any names). He would hold on to a player as if HE was being held back. Looked more aesthetically pleasing rather than throwing oneself on the ground.

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1046 - 22/05/2014 21:10:06    1592132

MB1
County: Tyrone
Posts: 329

1592121 I think the Presidents comments are an absolute disgrace. Mickey Harte has been one of the most positive commentators on Gaelic football. He has however been very vocal in his opposition to some of the new rules and that does not sit well with the hierarchy. He rarely makes comments about referees and even when he does it is normally about the consistency of decisions and not about individual performances. We have seen a witch hunt of certain Tyrone players in the media and by the disclipinary bodies. We have been consistently selected for special treatment over the last few years. You just wonder how much Tyrone's unwillingness to deal with RTE is behind all this.

Agreed, Micky Harte only said exactly what everyone else was saying, there must be consistency in the application of the black card. This is the opinion of all right thinking, logical people. Its championship football now, there is a lot at stake. If there is an obvious offence that falls under the black card ruling then the rules must be adhered to. Consistency is all that Micky wants, what is negative about fighting injustice? The injustice itself is what is negative, the lack of consistency by referees is negative.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 23/05/2014 08:53:12    1592161