brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 9220

1579154
Well Culann, everything changed after England played at Croke park don't you know!

Ah, they great maturing of the nation!

The day the people who had never previously booed GSTQ managed amazingly to not boo GSTQ!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 23/04/2014 16:24:22    1579155

crossfieldball
County: Galway
Posts: 566

1579124 Yes it does,

Manchester United is a huge club with a huge reputation and earnings similar to some massive corps like Microsoft eg. They make millions everyday selling merchandise around the world. So their always going to get a the top headline.

Also bare in mind more people in Ireland probably follow Man U than GAA. Even alot of fanatic GAA supporters follow Man U too.
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Microsoft Corp gross revenue 2013 - US$77.85 Billion

Manchester United gross revenue 2013 - £363.2 Million

For the sake of argument lets not inflate the financial worth of these clubs beyond what is actually relevant.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 23/04/2014 16:36:13    1579164

Good point brend re financial size of football clubs.

Most are about the size financially speaking of a large Tesco.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 23/04/2014 16:41:23    1579169

23/04/2014 16:41:23
MesAmis
Good point brend re financial size of football clubs.

Most are about the size financially speaking of a large Tesco. when you say most? what level?
large Tesco... below is link to finances in 2011.
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ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/04/2014 16:47:53    1579174

Most Premier League clubs aren't even solvent!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 23/04/2014 16:48:22    1579175

Ormo

Most clubs have a similar turnover with your average Tesco. Average turnover at a large Tesco is about £100 million.

Just a light hearted aside to the laughable point being made comparing Man Utd to Microsoft.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 23/04/2014 17:04:01    1579186

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
If Jim Galvin or Mickey Harte resigned or sacked etc, would it be the main point of the RTE news, I don't think so!! You cant really compare Jim Gavin or Mickey Harte losing their position as manager of their county to David Moyes losing his job. A pastime compared to a full time job in one of the largest clubs in the worlds biggest sport.

Inter-county management is way beyond a past-time, and thats a kind of insulting thing to say, given the level that our games are played at. And its not about the wage they're paid, its about what they do, and what that means to people in the country. And what our inter-county managers do means just as much in Ireland as what Premier league managers do. I'm not going to say one is more worthy than the other, but I wouldn't diminish either.

Saying that, I don't think the sacking of any manager should be the main headline on the national news, even if it was a GAA manager. There are more important things happening in the world, which is maybe why the national news in Britain didn't even have it as their main headline, and rightly so. The fact that it was on our national news points to a real insularity, in that we're more concerned about a manager of a football club getting sacked, than we are about all the really important things that are happening in the world.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 23/04/2014 17:11:14    1579189

look its laughable that the same people come back with the same excuses when anybody makes sense about stories like
this not deserving their prime time billing on our national news.
the excuse is we are living in the past bla bla bla.
maybe the people who claim to live in the resent as they call themselves are the ones who are so easily
blinded by the stranglehold britain and america has on the media and other major contributors around the world that they cannot think for themselves and refuse to question might the british brdcasters or media or american brodacsters or media be feeding you what they only want you to know,or only giving you one side to the story

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/04/2014 17:15:48    1579192

Haha

Man Utd is as big as Microsoft...

Hahahahaha

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 23/04/2014 17:28:20    1579201

Who cares? If rte having man u sacking manager as its main headline is that much of a major concern to anybody then thank god that's all you have to worry about. Jesus Christ. Get a life.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 23/04/2014 18:11:28    1579218

crossfieldball
County: Galway
Posts: 566

1579124
Yes it does,

Manchester United is a huge club with a huge reputation and earnings similar to some massive corps like Microsoft eg. They make millions everyday selling merchandise around the world. So their always going to get a the top headline.

Also bare in mind more people in Ireland probably follow Man U than GAA. Even alot of fanatic GAA supporters follow Man U too.


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What do you mean by 'follow'? I presume you mean watch on TV. In which case I would say that more people in Ireland 'follow' Eastenders and I wouldn't expect Phil Mitchell to make headline news on RTE if he suddenly left the soap. Not unless Ryle Nugent was made Director of Entertainment anyway.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 23/04/2014 18:33:09    1579223

I literally laughed out loud reading some of these posts. It's funnier then the joke thread that goes around on Fridays!

white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 23/04/2014 19:11:07    1579244

As i started this post- i want to emphasis why I brought it up?

The man utd story was a story, a big story , I've no complaint with that, many in Ireland follow English soccer - that's a fact, I'm not here critising them or looking them to avert their attention elsewhere!! But my initial post commented on the fact that our national broadcaster had this story as its anchor story, devoted in excess of 20% of the news output to this show at 6.01. This was tabloid journalism at its best, we have many noteworthy stories both at home and abroad... RTE have blown soccer up in recent years, specially English football, while at the same time devoting less time or inadequate coverage to GAA affairs.

Many can and will justify this coverage of the man utd story because of their size and worth, but they are no bigger than real madrid etc, its RTE jumping on the 'tabloid bandwagon'.
The BBC had the story as its second story , and as the day progressed the story went down the pecking order!!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 23/04/2014 20:15:06    1579262

23/04/2014 17:11:14 Marlon_JD
Inter-county management is way beyond a past-time, and thats a kind of insulting thing to say, given the level that our games are played at. And its not about the wage they're paid, its about what they do, and what that means to people in the country. And what our inter-county managers do means just as much in Ireland as what Premier league managers do. I'm not going to say one is more worthy than the other, but I wouldn't diminish either.
Saying that, I don't think the sacking of any manager should be the main headline on the national news, even if it was a GAA manager. There are more important things happening in the world, which is maybe why the national news in Britain didn't even have it as their main headline, and rightly so. The fact that it was on our national news points to a real insularity, in that we're more concerned about a manager of a football club getting sacked, than we are about all the really important things that are happening in the world. It isn't an insult and while slightly unfair its not a fulltime job in spite of the hours put in.
Im not diminishing inter county management. I see it the whole time in how it affects those in charge(Eamon O Shea is my mentor In college and you can see how it affects him...)
23/04/2014 17:15:48 hill16no1man
look its laughable that the same people come back with the same excuses when anybody makes sense about stories like
this not deserving their prime time billing on our national news.
the excuse is we are living in the past bla bla bla.
maybe the people who claim to live in the resent as they call themselves are the ones who are so easily
blinded by the stranglehold britain and america has on the media and other major contributors around the world that they cannot think for themselves and refuse to question might the british brdcasters or media or american brodacsters or media be feeding you what they only want you to know,or only giving you one side to the story Nice pop at me hill. Just openly say it the next time.
Britain and America are huge cultural powers worldwide and icons/images originating out of both dominate in all manners of life and will continue to do so.
"claim to live in the resent" what does that mean? "resent"??
I question a lot of what other media write. For instance I don't believe much of fox news right wing bull...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/04/2014 20:44:08    1579270

America is, ormo. Britain isn't, not even close

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 23/04/2014 20:56:57    1579277

Well the logic of that Ormond is that every other culture on the face of the planet packs up its tent and buys into all that crap. Is that what you want?

And as someone else asked you, would you be happy that WASPS had more support than Munster if they came to play here? Or indeed that Dubs would have more support among your own county people?

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/04/2014 21:01:44    1579278

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Stamp collecting is a pastime, inter-county management is a commitment. And its not about the employment status, its about the importance of what they do. 82,000 don't pack into Croke Park to indulge in someone else's pastime.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 23/04/2014 21:13:09    1579283

I was about to give a tour de force winning comment on this debate but RTE are showing a piece on the 9 o'clock news on the global business that is Man United.

* I meant Tony O'Donoghue earlier NOT Tony Connolly.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 23/04/2014 21:25:03    1579284

flack
County: Dublin
Posts: 322

1579277
America is, ormo. Britain isn't, not even close


English is the global language, their sports are the most widely played in the world, music, politics, media institutions ...etc

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 23/04/2014 21:33:50    1579290

Good post Marlon.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/04/2014 21:37:55    1579292