You completely over exaggerated your point

Thus making it lies from the start.

You have posted about 50 posts on this site

Pretty much every single one aimed at Dublin or Dublin posters

Explain that please?

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 15/04/2014 14:28:10    1575495

This has been done to death

We have had this same thread at least 10 times

We are all in agreement

But that's the way it is... give Dublin a pitch and they'll perform on it

We have proven that over the years

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 15/04/2014 14:33:15    1575497

batterburger
County: Cork
Posts: 55

Just about everyone has agreed with OP with exception of JD who I think is givine your chain a wee tug.

A

Aido69 (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 15/04/2014 14:33:56    1575499

Basically in the 00's when Dublin were rubbish we loved playing them in Croker now that there good and hammer everyone it's a disgrace they play all there games in Croker. This has been done over and over please not another 20 pages of this.

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Agree with this too..

Its been done to death.

Boring!!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 15/04/2014 14:35:51    1575500

We should play a few outside of Croker, the Leinster Final, QF, SF and F are obviously going to be played in Croker but the earlier rounds of leinster we should have an away game or 2. It would be nice to have an away game in championship, as far as I know most of the dubs on here want an away champ game as well.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 15/04/2014 14:41:51    1575506

Richieq
County: Meath
Posts: 1522

1575494 Unfortunately I disagree about Portlaoise etc being a capable venue for holding Dublin Football games. Access to Portlaoise, and parking are really bad around Portlaoise. And Dublin playing Laois away will bring a massive swell in numbers. The hurling match against Kilkenny caused significant problems and parking is inadequate around the stadium. Now you may say this is similar with Croke Park but the bus/train system around Croke Park is handy enough for getting in and around Croke Park.

Oh hang on now I think Portlaoise is far better than most venues for parking and access, it's immediately accessible from the M7 and in all the years travelling there I've never had any major parking issues, always went in good time and found good spots within a short walk of the ground and that was for games where at times the crowd was near capacity. Places like Tullamore, Mullingar or Newbridge would be worse in my opinion in terms of access and parking. O'Moore Park is well fit to hold a potential Laois/Dublin clash as is the town itself, unfortunately Leinster Council, as has been proved with the recent U21 debacle, don't like rocking the Dublin boat. And whilst Dublin don't make the fixtures as was said, they could influence them by declaring a willingness to go on the road at least for a Leinster quarter final, that's not much to ask I don't think


These are exactly the things that are happening that I'm talking about. This Dublin team are a joy to watch and will be around for many years to come but there is no getting away from the fact that they are being afforded much more 'help' from the GAA than other counties receive.

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 15/04/2014 14:42:58    1575508

Batterburger - you're in a no-win argument.

Firstly, the league semis have always been in Croke Park and secondly, the GAA want Dublin in Croke Park as often as possible due the financial benefits they bring, hence all the advantages that they acquire.

Laytown Legend (None) - Posts: 424 - 15/04/2014 14:46:31    1575512

Obviously it makes more financial sense to have the Dubs in Croker even when they're playing 'weaker' opposition otherwise they wouldn't be fixed to play their every championship game. I personally don't have much of an issue with it, I love playing the Dubs in Croker but the only time I think they should be made travel is for Leinster QFs, they should be away to either Laois or Wicklow this year but I don't really care either way.

Also would it not be the case that if someone knocks Dublin out of Leinster they may have to travel down the country, particularly if it's before the final. Ok I know that won't happen this year or for a while unless the likes of ourselves and or Kildare get their acts together but would Dublin be asked to travel. We knocked them out in the Leinster semi back in 2010 and they played all 3 qualifier games in Croker but was that just the luck of the draw or were they fixed for Croker regardless?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 15/04/2014 14:48:34    1575513

jimbodub
County: Dublin
Posts: 12242

1575495 You completely over exaggerated your point

Thus making it lies from the start.

You have posted about 50 posts on this site

Pretty much every single one aimed at Dublin or Dublin posters

Explain that please?


Like myself, you're an ordinary poster on this site. It doesn't matter what the content of my posts are or for that matter how many times I've posted so I'll be refraining from explaining myself to you.

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 15/04/2014 14:49:22    1575514

Yeah , yeah... whatever you say man

I've been on here long enough to spot a fake.

Hopefully you'll be able to add a little more range to your posting but somehow I doubt it

50 odd and counting... there will be plenty more.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 15/04/2014 15:01:26    1575522

Totally agree with original post.We need to be made travel to some provincial grounds in Leinster and qualifiers if were in them.We have an unfair advantage playing all games in Croke Park.It needs to be addressed.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 15/04/2014 15:06:36    1575527

I think its very unfair on the dubs and every other supporter that they have to always play in croke park. its a joke that the gaa have all these stadiums but continually neglect them. BUT from a complete neutral point of view. Dublin football team are a class act and they would beat any team in any ground when they are on form.
Im not a big football fan but I could watch dublin all summer and sing the praises of the game that i have not always agreed with wathcing. A class apart

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 15/04/2014 15:10:44    1575528

We def have an advantage playing all our games in Croke Park

A genius move by the Dublin CB back in late 2010 when they put together the spring series

No question it has contributed to our performances

I like any other Dublin supported have no bother heading down the country

But until the GAA top brass / Leinster council start to make some decisions that result in Dublin playing away from Croke Park

Then this tired and done to death debate is pointless

But make no mistake... we already know the place like the back of our hand... playing the odd championship game away over the coming years is not going to diminish our knowledge of the Croke Park pitch.

Dublin will always play more games in Croke Park than any other county... that advantage will never change.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 15/04/2014 15:15:40    1575532

Richieq ....

We will agree to disagree. Access by the M7 and having to lump your motor up onto a grass verge. Hardly access! I find Potlaoise is fine for smaller attendences but the KK Dubs hurling match a couple of years ago showed the venue is flawed and not accessable by road. The footballers would bring a bigger crowd altogether. I dont wanna turn up 3 hours before the game to park my car. And there is no matchday bus service to ferry people in from the M7 direction. The Dublin footballers in a decent fixture will attract a crowd that I think will be difficult to handle in Portlaoise. Traffic chaos. I love sport.....I hate poor organisation and traffic jams.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 15/04/2014 15:22:31    1575539

jimbodub
County: Dublin
Posts: 12244

1575522 Yeah , yeah... whatever you say man

I've been on here long enough to spot a fake.

Hopefully you'll be able to add a little more range to your posting but somehow I doubt it

50 odd and counting... there will be plenty more.


So because you're around longer than me it automatically means I'm a fake? Dear oh dear. Delusions of grandeur.

Moving on. If the league semi finals are always in Croke Park (I didn't think that was set in stone anywhere) then I'll gladly take back what I said.

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 15/04/2014 15:25:42    1575542

Aido69
County: Dublin
Posts: 168

1575499 batterburger
County: Cork
Posts: 55

Just about everyone has agreed with OP with exception of JD who I think is givine your chain a wee tug.

A


I'm not understanding what you mean but anyway.

Glad to see people with the OP expecially the Dubs. The GAA don't to be singing from the same hymn sheet though.

batterburger (Cork) - Posts: 161 - 15/04/2014 15:30:00    1575545

first off the league semi final could have been played in cork and you still would have had more dubs at it then cork so from that point of view a double header in croker worked out well.
last year kildare v tyrone and dublin v mayo drew 24 thousand
this year derry v mayo and dublin v cork drew 29 thousand
thats 5 thousand up on last year considering kildare and tyroone would be better supported counties then cork and derry
the gaa would be happy with that turnout.
then you have the dublin in leinster arguement
the only game possible for dublin to play outside croker is the quarter final.
the laois game would have been the best possible fit to try it out I agree 100% as portlaoise is the only ground holding 25 thousand
currently and the fact that only one county would be travelling might have accounted for less traffic.
but last years hurling with 12 thousand only in portlaoise was a nightmare in the town after the match with traffic congestion
hence the concerns over getting double that and you have major problems arising for people getting to and from the ground.
navan is the only answer to allowing dublin play leinster opener outside croker.
navan if redone to hold 30 thousand would be perfect for games involving dublin v westmeath/louth and so on.
as for last years double header getting 33 thousand there was 25thousand of that crowd from dublin so your still getting more then only portlaoise alone can hold

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 15/04/2014 15:40:47    1575553

Reasons I respect Meath and Kerry , rarely are we subjected to such loser mentality , they man up and bring the fight to Dublin , then you have those who come out with recycled rubbish time and and again , kilkenny in hurling would be happy to play us on the moon and beat us . If after last weeks games this is the best some of you guys have you are to be pitied , but Id be looking closer to home in Galway OP as your problems wont be playing Dublin in croke park any day soon .
Anyway pints are chaeper outside Dublin so always one for a cheap few , if HQ decide they dont need our euros , be happy to visit spread the wealth give yous a beating and come home , you know you have a decent team when same dross is wheeled out .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 15/04/2014 15:49:59    1575562

On the surface yes, Dublin get an unfair advantage, but what grounds do we have in Leinster or 60-70 miles from Dublin,
1. Portlaois is an old and tired ground , but its capacity is considerably reduced since the early '90's
2. Navan, even though I was well welcomed earlier this yr, is not fit for championship, stand is old, toilet facilities very poor, and there is grass banks, currently 8,000 capacity with the health and safety authority,
3. Newbridge - too small
4. Drogheda - stuck in 1957

5. Nowlan Park - lovely ground - but currently missing a roof on the stand
6. Tullamore - nice stand, but 18-19,000 capacity
7. longford - lovely wee ground
8. Carlow - Dr Cullen Park is a nice ground
9. mullingar - far too small - stand tooooo small

so probably the biggest and best ground for facilities is Newry 21,000 with a decent stand - but in reality cany see that happening,

so we can say Dublin gets an unfair advantage, but in reality can anyone here see or want Dublin v Meath in Navan or Dublin in Newbridge.
Rather than blame Dublin the Leinster Council needs just 1 good provincial 30,000 stadium

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1673 - 15/04/2014 16:00:52    1575568

It can be done:
Sunday June 8th Dublin Heuston - Portlaoise 13.25 arrives Portlaoise 14.14 €9.99
10 mins walk to O'Moore Park - along route 11 public houses. Time for 6-8 scoops, Q.Pounder, large snack box and batter sausage. €50
Dubs fans arrive O'Moore Park 16.15 for 16.00 throw in. Throw in delayed until 16.10. €25
Games finshes at 17.45
10 mins walk back to train (again via local hostelries) €50
Portlaoise - Heuston 19.24 Arrives Dublin 20.42 €9.99
Time out of Dublin 7hrs 17mins
Total spent €144.98
No parking needed
Memories: Priceless
All above contingent on Laois beating Wicklow in first round of Leinster(definitely not a foregone conclusion)

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 15/04/2014 16:26:27    1575576