Muck we've tried put 35 players in the league

And we're in a final.

A hugely successful campaign

Jimbob , Derry would have given a similar number if not more a run out.

I think Dublin but not by more than 3 points. Our record in league finals is pretty good. The lads will be raring to go against Dublin in Croke Park , they won't need much motivation.

In any case all championship talk at this juncture is nonesense , nothing is won by the end of April .

I would like to see skinner Bradley in there with McGuckin to pick up the loose ball from oboyle.

johnjoseph (Derry) - Posts: 158 - 15/04/2014 20:08:17    1575712

jimbodub
County: Dublin
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Muck we've tried put 35 players in the league

And we're in a final.

A hugely successful campaign

No argument from me on that at all jimbo.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 15/04/2014 20:56:30    1575738

cuederocket
County: Dublin
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The natural evolution of this team will see us winning finals and games of importance with more flair and finesse.

Jesus lads the language is getting more flowery with each post.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 15/04/2014 20:59:59    1575739

Hope Derry win to bring a little modesty back to the Dubs who are an amazing team to watch, it's great to see the capital doing well don't get me wrong

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1671 - 15/04/2014 21:45:04    1575760

Will ineed tickets

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 16/04/2014 09:06:35    1575787

derryman you will need tickets but you won't have any problem whatsoever getting them, no full house here!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 16/04/2014 09:56:41    1575811

Derryman, tickets available at Owenbeg today and tomorrow, on following times, I am sure they are online also. Official word is...


"Wednesday: 2.30p.m. - 5.00p.m.
Thursday: 10.00a.m. - 5.00p.m.


Ticket Prices:

Adult Tickets: £18 each.

Family Tickets which will be located in the Cusack Stand: Adult £18 each. Each Child needs a ticket and they are priced at £5 each.

Tickets can be puchased on the day of the game at various outlets on the roads leading to Croke Park - however these tickets will be priced at 25 Euro."

jamesjoyce (Derry) - Posts: 126 - 16/04/2014 10:23:28    1575823

Thanks lads. I would hate to miss this Dublin training session.
who is the other mob?

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 16/04/2014 10:33:34    1575829

A few things have probably contributed to Derry's powerful emergence this year.

Last years All Ireland Champions played a very open attacking style of football, which the other Division 1 sides all have now adopted in one form or another this year. The National League in general has seen higher scores and very attacking style games, with teams kinda going back to the man to man Old School football. This more traditional style suits Derry player's better, as they never actually adopted the blanket defence approach like many other Ulster teams. And Derry haven't really liked playing against that style, especially the 2012 Donegal style.

The team had a good run through Divsion 2 last year, and a wee run in the qualifiers which helped the team gel in my opinion. This set things up nicely for this season, where that wee bit of confidence gained in 2013 encouraged them to push on this year. Confidence is a huge thing for any team, and Derry are starting to believe in themselves after a good few dull years.

This National League final will be competitive, although I fully expect to see a more formidable Dublin in this game compared to Celtic Park. Cork lost their way in the 2nd half against Dublin, and failed to adapt to the changes Dublin had made at half time.
Dublin are All Ireland champions, and punished Cork in style.
I think Derry will offer Dublin a very different type of game, while they probably won't race into a big lead, they will stay with Dublin for 70 mins.

I think Derry will win this game, maybe not by a big margin, but a win all the same.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 16/04/2014 11:08:15    1575863

To be fare to Derry they look a formidable team.Is there a bigger,more physical team out there?Dublin have now won 2 All Ireland finals and 1 League final by 1 point,which although shows a huge degreee of mental resolve,the time will inevitably come when we come out the wrong side of such a tight call.I would hope we would kill the games off in the last quarter and not be living on our wits to the final whistle.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 16/04/2014 11:58:42    1575900

Heard a good one about Fergal Doherty's tackle on Aiden O'Shea which led to his sending off.

"Christ it's a good job he did hit O'Shea or he woulda taken half the Hogan Stand away!"

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9154 - 16/04/2014 12:04:03    1575904

cuederocket
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To be fare to Derry they look a formidable team.Is there a bigger,more physical team out there?Dublin have now won 2 All Ireland finals and 1 League final by 1 point,which although shows a huge degreee of mental resolve,the time will inevitably come when we come out the wrong side of such a tight call.I would hope we would kill the games off in the last quarter and not be living on our wits to the final whistle.

I think that winning any final by 1 point is not a criticism of a team. You have really got to acknowledge that any team now who reaches a final is preparing perfectly and will put it up to anyone who has aspirations of winning.

Derry are very powerful this year, they have been building very rapidly under mciver, he is one of the shrewdest operators in the business, and our own all ireland winning team was the fruits of his labour in many ways. The players will throw themselves on the line for him, especially the fact that he is managing his own county. I feel that derry will go out in the final and play out of their skins, but I would be very surprised to see them make the same mistake that cork made. Expcet the return of the blanket in 10 days to croker.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 16/04/2014 12:18:13    1575917

Derry have a chance in the final but I am expecting Dublin to win this comfortably. Dublin have the experience of winning big games and in a fairly full Croke Park I think Derry will put up a fight but as we seen with Cork at the weekend will eventually wilt.

I have a question over the Derry forwards. MArk Lynch is a good player, hard working and very strong but I've seen him easily put off his game by a player of equal stature and he doesn't play well if he is man marked. Enda Lynn is a very good player but don't think shooting is his main quality. After that I think the other forwards are decent but not great and would expect Dublin will manage them handy enough. Keep Mark Lynch quieter and I think Derry's game is up!!

Derry so have a very good defence but with so many attacking options from Dublin I think they will still get enough scores to comfortably win the game.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 16/04/2014 13:18:18    1575952

So you think lynch and lynn got derry to a league final.
you might want to look at derrys scoring stats from all their games.
but sure what would derry people know.

derryman (Derry) - Posts: 3246 - 16/04/2014 14:10:56    1575973

I don't know about the 'return of the blanket' but I would hope and expect that Derry will defend an awful lot better than Cork did in the second half against the Dubs. Under McIver's watch this Derry team attack and defend as a team and don't give the ball away cheaply. This requires workrate, intelligence, high skill levels, confidence on the ball and high levels of fitness and Derry are getting there. Watching the Cork-Dublin game I felt the main difference in the second half was that Dublin seriously upped their workrate and physicality - any team who doesn't match that against the Dubs is going to be blown away, they have serious firepower if they get on a roll. I think that Cork team are potentially a very serious outfit, however. It was lack of experience that caught them out, I feel. They lacked a few old heads just to put their bodies on the line, to win a few dirty balls and then just to hold onto the ball and stem the momentum. I don't believe for one minute that Brian McIver will not have watched the Dublin game and learned an awful lot from the mistakes Cork made. Dublin, of course, are a very fine team and worthy champions but I don't think any of the Derry team will be going down there to stand and admire them. I'm really looking forward to next week, taking on the best team in the country in Croke Park in a national final - where else would you want to be on a Sunday afternoon? (as Brian McIver himself put it in an interview last week). Doire Abú!

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 337 - 16/04/2014 19:15:35    1576127

"Stand and admire them"

You certainly didn't do that in the first game

Spent most of it on the ground

;)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 16/04/2014 19:37:09    1576135

Wise up, jimbo! Derry won by six that day. Did they kick all their scores 'lying on the ground'? This notion of Dublin as moral guardians of all that's good in football is bull****. They are in the business of winning, as they absolutely should be. They are tough, ruthless and physical, as all great Dublin teams have always been and believe me, Derrymen would have the height of respect for that. They have brilliant forwards and a serious amount of strong. athletic, talented footballers throughout their team, so it makes sense for Dublin to play a fast tempo, all-out attacking style of football. Dublin's physicality lays the groundwork for their stellar forwards to bury teams under an avalanche of scores. The rest of the country do not have the luxury of the riches in terms of talent that are at the disposal of the Dublin management, so we have to be smart, adapt, think of a plan that involves more than picking fifteen from a huge selection of naturally gifted ball-players and athletes and going at it hell for leather. I have enormous admiration for Jim Gavin, he is evidently a man of great courage and integrity but this idea that he is some sort of romantic in the business of saving the soul of football is the worst sort of media rubbish and more importantly, disrespects his steely toughness. Jim Gavin is a man of honour but he is no fool and is a serial high achiever, a winner. The business of the Dublin team on Sunday week is beating Derry; the business of the Derry team is beating Dublin, a more difficult task for our boys given Dublin's innate advantages.

doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 337 - 16/04/2014 20:54:09    1576158

Excellent piece Doiregael2 , I do believe Gavin has a notion of how he wants the game played I say that on the back of watching u21s play under his management and its similar to current senior team , however you can only pi33 with the mickee god gave you , the guardians of how the game should be played etc etc is media based as you say , under Gilroy we may never have won an all Ireland had we played JGs way , and visa versa , we are in a position as you mention were we have athletes with some amount of skill , over the last year there have been calls for third midfielders , sweepers , and less attack minded forwards to be played , if we have some knock backs as happens in any sport , the purists among us will be few and far between .
Everybody is a Jim fan today , but sport is fickle .
Rarely come across a team from the north prepared to lay down for the Dubs , expecting us to win , not big headed just feel are getting closer to high standards and that first half v Cork will have given team a kick in the backside , do expect a good hard challenge .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 16/04/2014 21:18:28    1576169

The league game also exploded the myth about Dublin's supposed depth of talent.

We were led to believe that there was such a conveyor belt of supermen itching to get off the subs bench that opponents would simply faint at the sight of them.

Didn't turn out that way against Derry.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 16/04/2014 21:30:41    1576178

doiregael2
County: Derry
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Yeah man.. how about you get your panties out of a twist... :)

It was a joke.

All the best to you.

You've a fine football team... and lots to look forward too

I was only having a laugh above.... we all now the massive task we have of beating Derry

Played far better football in the league compared to Dublin.. the pts tally doent lie.

Derry have also score more than Dublin... and yet Dublin are favs???

We've done incredibly well to even reach a final

We did come 4th on points and considering the games we've just come through... it's great to find ourselves in a final

Don't forget how poorly the previous defending AI champs have done in the league over the last number of years

The 2012 Champs got relegated (by Dublin)... the 2013 Champs find themselves in a league final against the form team

We'll still be missing several key players.... so you wont have a better chance...

We're in bonus territory here considering the manner of some of our wins / late draws

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/04/2014 09:15:01    1576200