Treaty exile NO ONE is trying to turn football areas into hurling areas. Some of us would like to see hurling areas in west lk staying hurling areas and not turning into football areas. That's all.

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 18/04/2014 15:39:14    1576757

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Fair enough Hillman, just a few lads I know like Eoin Keating were excellent soccer players also. I would have though that it would be an advantage. Looking for any angle in truth Hillman, I think the truth is we don't have the numbers.

I think the attitude at club level in football in limerick needs to change
I have been with a couple of clubs in the city and they dont take it serious
one of the clubs didnt train at all just notified players of matches a couple of days before hand
this was a senior club, the other club had 5 or 6 players only showing up for training and players were more interested in
what was going on in a rugby under 20tys world cup game at half time in a league game then the match they were playing themselves.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 18/04/2014 18:33:59    1576819

Lads I found out for definite Philip danagher is a Duagh man as far as his family home is in the parish of Duagh and did ye know that abbeyfeales football ground is in Kerry also in the parish of Duagh , so does that mean that Duagh are the only parish in Kerry with with 3 football grounds? I think lyrecrompaune is in the parish of Duagh as well and they are supposed to have a fine football pitch as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 23/04/2014 14:31:42    1579054

Whatever about the low representation on the Limerick Senior hurling panel of players from West Limerick, the most alarming thing is the huge areas of West Limerick that have no hurling club for young players who want to play the game. Things are getting worse. 10 years ago, St Senans, Kilcornan and Glin had hurling clubs. Now they are gone. Askeaton who should have benefited from the loss of these clubs have actually gotten weaker and had a very poor year this year. There seems to be no guidance or drive from the county board to rectify the problem that Glin, Gerald Griffins, Athea, Abbeyfeale, St Senans, Cappagh/Kilcornan have no hurling clubs. In the city there is a huge area around Corbally and Kings Island with no GAA club now that Abbey Sarsfields have disbanded. Abbey tried for years to get a new field developed but City Hall put every obstacle in their place but at the same time helped Rugby clubs such as St Marys and Richmond develop their grounds.

record (Limerick) - Posts: 129 - 31/07/2014 09:38:29    1628789

Seems this isnt confined to limerick
i live in clare now and head out to west clare..lahinch, ennistymon, miltown malbay, lisdoonvarna etc and they couldnt spell hurling not to mind play it
its all football out there ....
huge divide

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 31/07/2014 10:31:24    1628816

Liam
The main problem is in 'lowland' West Limerick where hurling was once very strong and is now gone mainly to football

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4340 - 27/08/2014 12:09:28    1642873

limerick should really be much stronger in football they they are considering the large pop areas in county limerick are more football than hurling
the 2 biggest towns are all football
NCW & Abbeyfeale

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 27/08/2014 12:19:26    1642882

These may be the biggest towns outside of the city but they are small relative to towns in other counties.

The combined total of both would be no more than 7 or 8 thousand which is very small compared to places like Ennis, Mallow, Clonmel, Tralee. Clonmel is much bigger and is also mainly football so should Tipp football be stronger because of this?

fattimmy (Limerick) - Posts: 392 - 27/08/2014 12:59:12    1642911

timmy...the current estimated population of Ncw and enviorns is 12,500

your stuck in the 90's there pal!
Dont confuse town pop with actual pop. The playing pop of NCW is from the areas outside the town centre but within a 5 mile radius ie bordering Knockaderry, Monagea castlemahon etc.

Dublins pop is taken at around the 1.5m mark but if u were to talk city only, its in the 600,000 mark
same story here onm a smaller scale

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 27/08/2014 13:46:48    1642956

Actually the rural area of NCW parish is quite small and the parish has only one rural school Killougteen. By contrast Abbeyfeale once had five rural schools and still has four.One way or the both parishes are big enough to support strong teams in both hurling and football.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4340 - 28/08/2014 21:24:18    1643762

Lads I know from footballing Limerick are more likely to be seen at a hurling match at the moment.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7871 - 28/08/2014 21:47:48    1643780

old tour man Newcastle has at primary level Killoughteen, Courtenay, Scoi Iosaf, Gaelscoil and you could defo add Monagea into that list as half the pupils are from NCW ie Monagea Road, Bothar Bui area
Secondary schools you have SMI, The Tec and The Gael Colaiste.
The estimated pop of the "NCW area" after the latest Local Authority/CSO Estimates in 2013 was just shy of 13,000

The problem is, like most bigger towns, GAA is not the dominant sport in Newcastle. Soccer is.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/08/2014 08:53:28    1643816

Liam you are way off with your numbers and geography. If you travel 5 miles in any direction from NCW town centre you would not only be outside the parish but you would have passed through the neighbouring parish also.
In fairness they do have an intermediate hurling team and have been fairly strong at underage in the last few years.


NCW and Abbeyfeale also have strong rugby and soccer clubs competing for players. Bruff are the other serious rugby club in the county and their hurling club is struggling also and that is in the heart of south Limerick.

fattimmy (Limerick) - Posts: 392 - 29/08/2014 09:18:52    1643833

Liam why are you quoting population of an Electoral Area that includes about 10 parishes and stretches as far as Glin, Abbeyfeale and Dromcollogher.

Do you know that Scoil Iosaf is a girls school and that most of the Gael Scoil pupils travel from outside the parish as it is the only Gael Scoil in West Limerick. Also Gael Colaiste student population is around the 20 mark and most are girls.

Could you show evidence that the soccer clubs have more players than the Gaa club. Other sports are a factor but the Gaa is definitely the biggest club in the parish.

The numbers would be closer in Abbeyfeale but a lot of the soccer players are from outside the town.

fattimmy (Limerick) - Posts: 392 - 29/08/2014 09:37:21    1643852

Fat Timmy
my numbers are accurate and up to date
Dont believe everthing Wiki tells u !!!
The CSO are the authority on this not Wiki !!

I know the Geography of the area as well as you ever could mo chara

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/08/2014 09:38:08    1643855

Liam
I think I know the area just as well as you do. Go 2 miles out to the south and you are at Monagay Church, go two miles to the North you are at Ardagh Church and go two miles to the East and you are at Castlemahon Church. There is no way the actual rural population of NCW can be anywwhere near Abbeyfeale rural population where all the neighbouring churches are miles even away, though Duagh parish comes very near the town centre. I feel NCW 'area' and NCW Parish are two different things.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4340 - 29/08/2014 11:42:07    1643960

old tourman, if you know the area as well as i do, why did you spell Monagea as Monagay.........you obviously dont!
Didnt Mr Lenihan teach ye anything up there in the mountains of Tour!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/08/2014 11:50:26    1643967

Oldtourman he is using the Newcastle West electoral area for his population figures which includes half of West Limerick so it would be like giving the Dublin Sth Central population in a debate about Walkinstown .. not relevant.
Also despite his protests he doesn't know the area as well as he insists. The Knockaderry, Ardagh, Monagea (to use a more modern version than you did) and Castlemahon borders are all probably under a mile from the town square in NCW.

fattimmy (Limerick) - Posts: 392 - 29/08/2014 12:50:30    1644041

Timmy.....wat u on about man ?? Ardagh is six miles from the square, monagea is three and a half miles and castlemahon is four and a half miles. Lads ye don't know Newcastle at all !! The monagea border for instance is two and a half miles out from ncw churcg at monagea geaveyard for instan

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 29/08/2014 14:37:14    1644155

Good man Liam. Are you a Dublin Taxi driver because in no other universe is Ardagh 6 miles from NCW. Maybe you are thinking of Rathkeale!!!!!!!!!

fattimmy (Limerick) - Posts: 392 - 29/08/2014 15:33:39    1644182