Anyone know how granagh ballingarry minor team is joined with banogue this year.banogue always played in south in football. thing with west limerick is that Kderry feognagh castlemahon and monagea have to join together to field teams from u14 to 21.the rest of lads that can't make the team what happens them.they give it up play other sports.manages and fcastlemahon are stuck in ja cos of it.Kderry are the only ones from the 3 joined together that have come on from it is it cos
Of most of mmanagement over Deel rangers are from knockaderry.should they make ja all co the teams in west ja must be sick of playing each other at this stage.feo are meant to be having 2 separate squad for ja and Jb hurling this year.ya they prob will win Jb out but at the expence of their a team.that's what b team should be for to bring lads onto their a team

oll (Limerick) - Posts: 693 - 14/04/2014 14:13:46    1574961

how do you expect hurling or football in limerick to grow when the county board advertise munster rugby on the mackey stand
you will have four countys attending the national league semi finals in the home of limerick gaa
yet the most glaring thing they will see entering the ground will be a huge advertisement for rugby on the wall

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/04/2014 14:24:31    1574970

Mike it is considered a football area by those who like u know nothing about GAA in west limerick. Happy now?

disillusiondfan (Limerick) - Posts: 4279 - 14/04/2014 15:53:28    1575045

Lads i know this is a bit off topic but while I might have some north Kerry west limerick lads I got to ask , was Philip danagher an abbeyfeale man or a Duagh man? I know he played rugby for abbeyfeale but I heard one time that his family lived in Duagh . Anyone know?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/04/2014 15:54:48    1575047

Philip is an Abbeyfeale man. He is an absolute gent to boot. He played for St Munchins, Garryowen, Lansdowne, Munster and Ireland. One of the nicest people i have met.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 14/04/2014 16:06:10    1575054

Soun

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/04/2014 19:52:27    1575201

Sound Hoover thanks.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 14/04/2014 19:53:04    1575203

Your very welcome Kingdom.

Hoover78 (Limerick) - Posts: 865 - 14/04/2014 20:29:04    1575222

Look most clubs out west are dual to an extent, even within my own club there is lads from the town who hurl with tour, while football is there no 1 sport to most of them , nearly every young lad out west has the opportunity to play hurling which is the most important thing. So if they are good at it they will obivously stick at it and get on the limerick team if they are good enough eventually so its not like limerick are missing out any outstanding talent.

Caseys89 (Limerick) - Posts: 80 - 14/04/2014 21:52:24    1575279

Even though Philip Danagher is from Abbeyfeale he did play football for Duagh back in the early eighties.

As far as I remember he also played minor football for Kerry and senior football for Limerick.

Marktheredhead (Kerry) - Posts: 1 - 15/04/2014 08:38:12    1575292

'A certain phrase comes to mind when people try to say Munster rugby was a big thing before 2000: Lies, damn lies and statistics!! '

Dead right Mike. As far as I remember it, what happened was the IRFU changed thye old Munster Senior League into the AI league in the early 90s. Around that time Limerick clubs hit a purple patch and won a lot of AI leagues. However, Cork clubs had actually won far more Munster leagues up to that point. Cork schools had also been more successful than their Limerick counterparts in the schools competitions. Still are, I think. However the IRFU cleverly used the 'Limerick home of rugby' BS to position themselves in that market. At that time Cork was strong in GAA and soccer, so the IRFU identified Limerick as a more open market. The whole thing lined up so well for them, I'm almost inclined to think that the LImerick clubs dominating in the early 90s was no coincidence. I wonder were their players home grown?

Either way, the 'home of rugby' was more of a branding exercise than a fact. I know a few Cork rugby people who remain quite upset about it. Though in fairness, I think they;re in the minority.

However, we shoudl acknowledge that the branding exercise has become a fact. Limerick kids now see rugby as their game. We shoudl take our hats off to the IRFU as they have successfully pushed the GAA aside in one county at least. Limerick GAA should accept, and try to address that fact.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 15/04/2014 11:41:59    1575392

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Interesting points culchie and thanks for the oul cork opinion. I would say however that gaa is still very popular in limerick and na piarsigh have made playing gaa almost as glamourous as rugby with their well organsised and prosporuos club right in the middle of the once shannon rugby heartland.

In corks situation is there any push to get hurling played more in west/north west cork where it is non-existant? In limerick the big problem is clubs that were once hurling are switching to football only and losing the game which put them on the map

Fishermantom (Limerick) - Posts: 569 - 15/04/2014 15:19:55    1575536

fisherman, why is it a "problem" if a club chooses football over hurling? Where is the problem? Loads of people in Limerick prefer football......

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 15/04/2014 16:13:20    1575574

fishermantom, hurling exists and is quite strong in parts of north west cork. Presuming you're talking about duhollow, there is lots of hurling there. Even in the 90s, the duhollow junior championship was a real minefield. Freemount, Kanturk, Meelin and Tullylease are all hurling areas. Just over the border in Avondhu, apart from a strong junior scene, milford, ballyhea and newtownshandrum were the only clubs that were more often than not in a stronger grade than junior. The expansion of the intermediate grade(split in two) has weakened junior hurling and devalued that championship a bit but hurling all over north cork is pretty healthy.
West cork less so. The further from the city you go west, the weaker it gets.
The problem in cork is not a particular divisional board as limerick people seem to be saying here about the west, it's a problem with the county board.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 15/04/2014 16:21:23    1575575

There is some progress in West Cork lads. Darren Sweetnam was (surely) the first Dunmanway man ever on a Cork hurling team. Also, a guy from Kilmichael (just West of Macroom) was telling me that hurling took over the underage scene there - mostly down to a teacher in one of the schools. I also see that Macroom are trying to do a bit of hurling, and isn't there something going on in Clondrohid?

Bottom line - there is very patchy and limited progress which seems to be more down to determined, committed, hardworking individuals more than any board initiative. The progress is so patchy it could vanish as quickly as it arrived.

Culchie (Cork) - Posts: 799 - 15/04/2014 17:06:47    1575602

15/04/2014 11:41:59 Culchie
'A certain phrase comes to mind when people try to say Munster rugby was a big thing before 2000: Lies, damn lies and statistics!! '
Dead right Mike. As far as I remember it, what happened was the IRFU changed thye old Munster Senior League into the AI league in the early 90s. Around that time Limerick clubs hit a purple patch and won a lot of AI leagues. However, Cork clubs had actually won far more Munster leagues up to that point. Cork schools had also been more successful than their Limerick counterparts in the schools competitions. Still are, I think. However the IRFU cleverly used the 'Limerick home of rugby' BS to position themselves in that market. At that time Cork was strong in GAA and soccer, so the IRFU identified Limerick as a more open market. The whole thing lined up so well for them, I'm almost inclined to think that the LImerick clubs dominating in the early 90s was no coincidence. I wonder were their players home grown?
Either way, the 'home of rugby' was more of a branding exercise than a fact. I know a few Cork rugby people who remain quite upset about it. Though in fairness, I think they;re in the minority.However, we shoudl acknowledge that the branding exercise has become a fact. Limerick kids now see rugby as their game. We shoudl take our hats off to the IRFU as they have successfully pushed the GAA aside in one county at least. Limerick GAA should accept, and try to address that fact. It wasn't the IRFU who changed the provincial leagues to AI league. The clubs voted for the change themselves
Munster clubs didn't just hit a purple patch. They were strong beforehand and just took to format better. Clubs that were predicted to dominate never got near(Old Wesley/Wanderers).
Cork schools always have been more dominant as there is just of them in a bigger city. They are fee paying which makes things easier as bigger budgets for rugby and they're all male bigger schools.
Limerick is home of irish rugby. Nothing BS about that.
Virtually all players in 90s playing with Limerick clubs were from Limerick. Some players from Junior clubs in Tipp, Clare but not many from elsewhere. For example 3/4 Nenagh players won AIL division 1 titles with Limerick clubs in early years of AIL

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 15/04/2014 18:37:59    1575666

Limerick has always had some strong AIL sides and was always a bit of a rugby stronghold, the reason munster werent supported well till the early 2000's was because they didnt exsist before the mid 1990's bar a few interprovincial matches here and there and just took a small while for the club people to buy into the provience was naturally helped by Munsters success

Caseys89 (Limerick) - Posts: 80 - 15/04/2014 21:52:47    1575769

notice some people are saying (correctly) that a fair proportion of munster support dont support club rugby - think a similar analysis can be made about gaa - lots of people who support their county teams dont go to club games =

also think its fair to say a lot of the munster support came from the strong support the club game got in the 90s

as an ex old wesley man i have to correct you ormond man when you say Old Wesley/Wanderers). The wanderers bit is correct- but wesley started the league in Div 2 got promoted with munsters and did manage to finish third in 1992.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/04/2014 12:33:23    1575931

15/04/2014 21:52:47
Caseys89
Limerick has always had some strong AIL sides and was always a bit of a rugby stronghold, the reason munster werent supported well till the early 2000's was because they didnt exsist before the mid 1990's bar a few interprovincial matches here and there and just took a small while for the club people to buy into the provience was naturally helped by Munsters success yeah only 3 interpros a season and the odd touring game v an international side.
16/04/2014 12:33:23
janesboro
notice some people are saying (correctly) that a fair proportion of munster support dont support club rugby - think a similar analysis can be made about gaa - lots of people who support their county teams dont go to club games =
also think its fair to say a lot of the munster support came from the strong support the club game got in the 90s
as an ex old wesley man i have to correct you ormond man when you say Old Wesley/Wanderers). The wanderers bit is correct- but wesley started the league in Div 2 got promoted with munsters and did manage to finish third in 1992. But iirc(and my dad/uncle are ex committee members of Bective) and im a former player of bective but as I recall Wesley were also predicted to dominate AIL alongside Wanderers and probably Lansdowne.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/04/2014 19:07:58    1576124

Seems the football revolution in Limerick won't be complete for another few years anyway. They're getting a right hammering from Cork at the moment in minor championship.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 16/04/2014 19:16:46    1576128