LoI clubs don't even want live games! Games are getting moved from their preferred Friday evenings and affecting their attendances relative to what they bring in for their level.
I don't think RTE would ever move GAA highlights to after 11pm on a Monday night!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 02/04/2014 21:32:57    1569698

Muckross head,

Hopefully SKY can come inthrough for a preview show this August or September maybe.

Inthrough (Donegal) - Posts: 32 - 02/04/2014 21:42:20    1569708

I think this is great news. The RTE have had a monopoly on GAA for years. The higher ranks of the GAA and media in general in Ireland have no respect or regard for the GAA. The greatest organisation in Ireland and possibly the greatest amateur organisation in the world. There are so much people out there blinded by the bad media attention that the GAA bring.
With the whole Lee Chin affair and others the whole focus was it being a GAA problem yet the GAA have been leading lights in Irish sport in trying to eradicate rasism in every form in the past couple of decades. Racism in Irish is a social problem across the whole community it was never a GAA problem. Of course it's up to the GAA to solve it and they do.
The GAA have been pivotal in recent years in mending problems with our neighbours across the border. They have made huge strides here. Their attitudes in recent decades have change totally for inclusion for all.
This recent move also attempts to bring the GAA back to those who have left our shores for various reasons but still regard Ireland as home and have a great love for our national sports. I think it the long run it will benefit the players and hopefully with time they will be rewarded for their efforts. I cannot see any problem with this. Every other sport in the world would be delighted to get a deal with Sky why shouldn't the GAA? You cannot say the GAA don't pump the money back into the community in lots of ways they do. They have built world class stadiums and if we get a Rugby World Cup in Ireland it is the GAA whole will have built most of the facilities to allow this to happen. So bottom line to me is this is just a natural progression for the GAA which will benefit the whole of Ireland and every sport on the Island. So stop the GAA bashing and look forward to a bright future for our games and the raising of the profile of our country. If only the government and other organisations in our country were as inovative and forward thinking as our great organisation what a great country we would have.
This I believe will somewhere along the way bring professionalism to our sport (even if that was not the intention). This will change the face of our sport but I think for the better because I think with professionalism our club championships will again come to the fore and those who put their lives into the sport will get paid for the joy and efforts they bring. Maybe there won't be a Wexford team anymore maybe it will be the South East or something like that but we will love it all the same as the sport is brought to another level.

Nick (Wexford) - Posts: 1100 - 03/04/2014 10:29:03    1569794

Bad news for the association and for GAA fans. Most people dont have Sky sports. It cost €400 plus a year. Why have the GAA SOLD US OUT? think of supporters and former players who can't watch their county play because of this deal. More money going out of the country is all I see. Sky will make a lot more money from this than they've paid the GAA and this money will go to Sky company owners.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 03/04/2014 11:40:30    1569844

RTE made a complete balls up on Prime Time the other night. They had two interviewers who clearly did not get the GAA to bat for the station. The only person who spoke openly against it was a poor chap in the audience who did not come across as competent to argue at that level. The people the probably thought would be against it, McGee, McEniff and the chap that wrote the book on money within the GAA came across as supporting it with some natural reservations.
I would even say that RTE have a condescending attitude to the GAA "now your nice simple country people, we will look after you....these big bad men in SKY will take advantage of you..." I thought Brennan and Duffy annihilated them fair play to them.
I have been down in my local field over the course of this week and everyone is really positive about this. We are all extremely proud of our games so lets let the world see them!

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 03/04/2014 12:05:26    1569865

pdempsey
County: Mayo
Posts: 630

just sign up for the summer months maybe? Or else go to the games? You can also have highlights on TG4 and I would imagine RTE. You also have the majority of other championship games.....there will be people suffering because of this, I agree with you but I think we can swap us at home missing some games so Irish people abroad can see the games?
Also hopefully your local club will benefit in some small way?

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 03/04/2014 12:13:14    1569873

of course rte are arrogant they have been up against nothing for years and then the poor attempt by tv3 to show gaa...how could ya not be arrogant?
this as the potential to be great for the association but the gaa have to do it properly

srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 03/04/2014 12:20:22    1569880

Sportsfan14. I go to games-its people who can't go to games that I'm referring to. No problem with people abroad being able to see as many games as possible but this should not be connected to games on Irish TV being pay (Rupert Murdoch & co) per view.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 03/04/2014 13:05:53    1569908

Inthrough
County: Donegal
Posts: 5

1569708
Muckross head,

Hopefully SKY can come inthrough for a preview show this August or September maybe.

Aye, myself & yourself could be the local experts on the ground!!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 03/04/2014 13:10:20    1569915

02/04/2014 18:54:44
Inthrough
RTE have been very arrogant in their attitude towards coverage of our games. They only cover the championship and pay absolutely no attention to the national leagues apart from a pathetic highlights show. They have never invested in showing the club championships. There was no fuss when setanta were showing the national league games on Saturday nights. I think this SKY move is a positive move. Dont here any of the players complaining in any of this. Other channels show the league and outbid RTE.
Maybe they've never invested in club championships as they wouldn't be able to give it full coverage that it deserves with them showing other sports and how they don't have a dedicated sports channel and cant show sport the while time

02/04/2014 19:55:56
Gael85
+1
Ryle Nugent head of RTE Sport in Rugby man so his sport seems to get priority. From end of September to June the coverage of GAA is brutal.Fair dues to TG4 for great coverage of national league and club championship. If rugby was such a priority then why are RTE getting rid of their pro12 coverage next season.
If tg4 have rights to club championships and league and setanta also cover the league what can RTE show in that timeframe?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/04/2014 13:29:40    1569931

02/04/2014 20:15:47
tyroneed
This was introduced on yesterday's TV news as for the first time some games will not be on Free to Air TV.
RTE is not Free to Air. In the south you pay for it through a TV licence. In the North you pay for it through Sky or similar.
I also don't see why the GAA would owe anything to RTE. Much of the analysis focused on the teams being poor, slow, defensive etc. I'd say SKY might have a bit more praise/promotion of what is on show. RTE is free to air regardless of tv license. No monthly bill from RTE about payment for what they provide unlike Sky, UPC etc

02/04/2014 20:24:11
legendzxix
The GAA hardly do enough to promote the league themselves anyway. Managers often talk it down. It's championship preparation at the end of the day. People make the games if they want to see them and most local radio stations will cover the games. The GAA don't promote it enough. Perhaps adapt the league/championship season and continue/expand league so it goes through the entire season and adapt championship and still allow clubs better scheduling. then it may get better recognition from hurling/gaelic supporters.
You say its championship preparation at the end of the day. That's a major problem with promoting the league in its current existence. People dismiss it as its not "championship"

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/04/2014 13:34:44    1569935

Their general attitude to GAA is apathetic at best. Take their League Sunday highlights programme. It's laughable in its amateurism. Michael Lyster and guest standing on the sideline in the ******* rain trying to analyse that afternoon's action which was already shown live by TG4 that day. The captions on the results the wrong way around etc, I could go on.

Rugby on the other hand will be analysed thoroughly and professionally as it should be. RTE have paid lip service to the GAA for years now. Maybe Sky's acquirement of some of the rights will give them the kick up the **** they need.

As for all the doom mongers. You'd swear RTE had been offering a dedicated GAA platform 24/7 a la Sky Sports News in the past. The thing is up to about 15 years ago you were lucky to get the provincial finals, the AI semis and the final. So all this talk of "my old uncle Eddie having watched all the games for free all his life" is frankly ********. If people are so worried about older or less well off people missing out, how about this? Do the neighbourly and community spirited thing and invite them around to watch the game. Or better still take them along to the actual matches themselves.

Another point to consider. The GAA is a commercial enterprise which funnels a lot of the money back to its core membersship. Does anyone actually know the exact figure Sky have paid for the matches they'll get to cover? I doubt Murdoch in all his wisdom handed the GAA a blank cheque now did he? I would hazard a guess that what Sky offered isn't a whole lot more than TV3 did. So all this talk of Grab All Association is naive rubbish. What would people prefer? That the GAA was run by incompetent gombeens who didn't know how to negotiate the best deal for the association? Christ above the levels of whinging, begrudgery and metatheisophobia in this country really infuriates at times. It makes me wonder how we ever get anything done!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9151 - 03/04/2014 13:37:59    1569941

02/04/2014 20:34:18 Jack_Goff
Can i join the sense talking club please? RTE are the biggest joke in Ireland and that says a lot. They have no national pride and would prefer if there was a rugby club in every parish instead of the gaa and soccer ones. I can't beleive they don't want to cover the national league. Even Div 1 and 2. Highlights package needs to be 2 hours long not the insult they give us that shows the games already shown on tg4 and setanta and gives us 1 pundit chatting under an umbrella in a random GAA ground.
And to say we get enough in the summer. That's 4 months of good coverage for the top level of our games. The least they can do is give coverage for an extra 2 months for the league. That's only 6 months and still less than the 8 months plus the soccer and rugby often gets.No "national pride" LOL LOL LOL LOL LMAO
Complain to RTE if you think their coverage isn't good enough. No highlights programmes apart from the Sunday Game in the summer are 2 hours long on RTE. Rugby only gets a highlights programme in certain weeks of the season and that's mainly around the international weekends and that's an hour long.
Rugby doesn't get 8 months nor does soccer. Rugby will be getting a hell lot less coverage next season on RTE with no pro12 on the channel and no european cup highlights. Just international games

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/04/2014 13:38:42    1569942

Good article:

link

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 03/04/2014 13:40:28    1569943

02/04/2014 21:22:46
county man
Have to agree with legend, the league does mean nothing and it is all about championship. In Tipp they were saying that the league run they had last year ruined their championship preparation and that no way should they try to reach the league final this year. If Meath won Division 2 but didn't get to a Leinster final and lost early on in the qualifiers, would Meath people be happy with that? I doubt it.
In fairness to RTE they do show a lot of the championship and would show more only the GAA cut back on games offered. (In saying that I have no idea why they do show LOI alight, that is absolute muck to watch).
The GAA do have to take some blame for the lack of appeal of the league.People complain about league getting little coverage but when you have thousands across the country with views like the above is it little wonder the league doesn't get the coverage some here feel it deserves and I can imagine there would be more around the country with the view "sure its only the league" than the league doesn't get enough coverage.
LOI is the premier domestic soccer competition. Saying its muck to watch is ignorant of the standard and is unfairly comparing it to england

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/04/2014 13:43:04    1569945

02/04/2014 21:29:19
FrackTheTurf
I saw some of the questing of O' neil. He was grilled! some of our ministers dont get grilled like thta over serious issues.
At one point the interviewer stated, so fans have to pay the sky fee or go to the pub to watch the game.
liam's reply....'or they could go to the game'
I remember when rte covered the AI semi's and finals. The railway cup was also shown live. That was it.
1 hour to cover all the league games that happened over the weekend is pathetic.
RTE look like a small backwater TV Station these days How long should they take to cover the league then? What other sports even get half an hour never mind an hour of highlights of recent games
RTE doesn't look like that at all these days.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/04/2014 13:46:44    1569948

03/04/2014 10:29:03 Nick
I think this is great news. The RTE have had a monopoly on GAA for years. The higher ranks of the GAA and media in general in Ireland have no respect or regard for the GAA. The greatest organisation in Ireland and possibly the greatest amateur organisation in the world. There are so much people out there blinded by the bad media attention that the GAA bring.
With the whole Lee Chin affair and others the whole focus was it being a GAA problem yet the GAA have been leading lights in Irish sport in trying to eradicate rasism in every form in the past couple of decades. Racism in Irish is a social problem across the whole community it was never a GAA problem. Of course it's up to the GAA to solve it and they do.
The GAA have been pivotal in recent years in mending problems with our neighbours across the border. They have made huge strides here. Their attitudes in recent decades have change totally for inclusion for all.
This recent move also attempts to bring the GAA back to those who have left our shores for various reasons but still regard Ireland as home and have a great love for our national sports. I think it the long run it will benefit the players and hopefully with time they will be rewarded for their efforts. I cannot see any problem with this. Every other sport in the world would be delighted to get a deal with Sky why shouldn't the GAA? You cannot say the GAA don't pump the money back into the community in lots of ways they do. They have built world class stadiums and if we get a Rugby World Cup in Ireland it is the GAA whole will have built most of the facilities to allow this to happen. So bottom line to me is this is just a natural progression for the GAA which will benefit the whole of Ireland and every sport on the Island. So stop the GAA bashing and look forward to a bright future for our games and the raising of the profile of our country. If only the government and other organisations in our country were as inovative and forward thinking as our great organisation what a great country we would have.
This I believe will somewhere along the way bring professionalism to our sport (even if that was not the intention). This will change the face of our sport but I think for the better because I think with professionalism our club championships will again come to the fore and those who put their lives into the sport will get paid for the joy and efforts they bring. Maybe there won't be a Wexford team anymore maybe it will be the South East or something like that but we will love it all the same as the sport is brought to another level. RTE had a monopoly as there was nothing else.
Bull**** to say higher ranks of GAA/media have no respect for the GAA at all. Would love to see response you'd get if you told any of them that in person.
Agree with quite a bit of the rest of your post though

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 03/04/2014 13:49:47    1569950

whats the point in this thread?
rte didnt lose out they actualy are showing more then the last deal 3 years ago!

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 03/04/2014 14:16:24    1569962

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
LOL LOL LOL LOL LMAO

What are you 12 years old? Serious bad start to that post.

Complain to RTE if you think their coverage isn't good enough. No highlights programmes apart from the Sunday Game in the summer are 2 hours long on RTE. Rugby only gets a highlights programme in certain weeks of the season and that's mainly around the international weekends and that's an hour long.

Yeah the rugby is not 2 hours long because you haven't got anywhere near the amount of irish teams playing each other at club level. This is a very weak comparison. BTW Ormond, I have complained to both RTE and the GAA. I sent a text into a radio station that were interviewing the president about the sky deal and a few other friends did too. They read out one of the texts to the president and he said that's something they can talk to RTE about. Does that mean I'm going to stop saying how I feel on a public forum? No. So stop telling people what to do and give up your obsession with standing up for RTE and Rugby on a GAA forum. Surely you have better things to do than reply to every single post on here and none of them directed at you.

Rugby doesn't get 8 months nor does soccer. Rugby will be getting a hell lot less coverage next season on RTE with no pro12 on the channel and no european cup highlights. Just international games

SO maybe with the Rugby gone next year they will have all the time in the world to give the GAA proper coverage that our national games deserve. After all they are the national broadcaster aren't they?

Just to make it clear I'm a supporter of the most successful Irish team ever which is Leinster as you know and supporter them when they were in the doldrums. I think RTE's Rugby coverage is great but when it's clearly at the expense of other sports I have an issue.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/04/2014 16:35:00    1570454

sportsfan14
County: USA
just sign up for the summer months maybe? Or else go to the games? You can also have highlights on TG4 and I would imagine RTE. You also have the majority of other championship games.....there will be people suffering because of this, I agree with you but I think we can swap us at home missing some games so Irish people abroad can see the games?

How is the Sky deal going to help Irish people in the US see the games? The fact that RTE games will now be available online in the US at least means we'll be able to watch any games RTE have online now (and its about time). But I don't think ex-pats in the US will be able to get any access to the games on Sky, am I wrong?

Does anyone know how RTE are going to charge for online access to the games, will it be via subscription, or will we be able to pay per game? I haven't heard any details of that yet.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 04/04/2014 17:09:42    1570466