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GAA announce SKY TV deal

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11/03/2014 11:58:31
Midleton
Personally I think the last thing the GAA needs is exclusiveness, which is what this would bring about. It's already well know that the hierarchy of the GAA are well cushioned from the concerns of people on the ground who would not be able to afford Sky's prices.
The All-Ireland Rugby League didn't work out well for Sky, so they dropped it like a hot potato after the first season. A bad, bad idea.
When was AIL on Sky? Has to be some time in the 90s as it certainly wasnt in the past 10 years or so
Most people in the country have digital television do they not
GAA inter county would be much more benficial than AIL rugby for Sky and would be successful

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 11/03/2014 15:10:52    1558293

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11/03/2014 12:04:46 hill16no1man
wont happen for championship matches. they might give couple leauge games but no way exclusive championship matches to an outside station. would be commercial suicide! its a red herrin to up the anti in the bidding for championship rights
no doubt sky have enquired that much would be true as they obviously would like to see whats on offer but gaa releasing this is to put the wind up rte sales and I think its about time the gaa have done this to rugby tv i mean rte as for too long rte have had it all their own way its like when you go to buy a house and they say others have put in a bid of 200 thousand are you willing to offer 210 thousand
also dont see how people believe sky will offer better punditry haha
whats the option an english panel of guys who never played or no anything about gaa
or guys that rte setanta and tv 3 deemed not good enough
Why do you think if Sky got the coverage they would get an english panel as pundits. Theyd get irish people, former players, journalists etc. Theyd get the best like they do in all their sports coverage
Why would it be commercial suicide if Sky used its considerable resources and got more viewers, got more money into the coffers of each county board to spend on development of coaches, players etc
11/03/2014 12:12:46
gotmilk
No Htaem it is an amateur game so why make people pay to see it on the tv? This deal would go against the ethos of the game. I'm not in favour of it.
Anyway as another poster pointed out how are some people going to be able to afford to watch it? To watch it they will probably have to go to the pub which will cost them money as well. I think it's a bad move.
No it wouldnt go against the ethos of the game.
college basketball in america is totally amatuer yet american tv channels regularly pay millions to show games.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 11/03/2014 15:16:48    1558301

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11/03/2014 13:24:47
game.on.now.ger
Aren't GAA Championship matches included on the list of protected events that must be made available to terrestrial tv stations? Surely as mentioned by others this will only be for league matches currently shown by Setanta. I would have no problem with Sky also broadcasting Championship matches provided that they were also broadcast by RTE or TV3 (although I would imagine that this would go against the terms of their packages, considering they can't even show different matches at the same time), which could hopefully increase the appeal of our games overseas
Not all GAA championship matches are protected. only the finals
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11/03/2014 14:06:13
Ulsterman
I have my reservations about doing deals with the Murdoch empire but exposure on an international scale is no bad thing and raises the profile of our games. However I would also want reassurances that money will be spread out to those counties who are struggling badly with player losses and emigration. If this is just another excuse for thr GAA and Dublin to fill their treasure chests to the exclusion of others I wouldn't want to know. We are aleady in a 'have and have not' heirarchy within the Association and to make that worse would have a longer detrimental affect on the GAA.
why the go's at dublin. Strange....

11/03/2014 14:27:49
jpcampion
If you live overseas and want to watch a game you should have the option to do so at home without having to go to a pub. Multiple platforms are also a must, its crazy that RTE.ie streams games live but only people in Ireland can watch. At least Sky offer multiple platforms to watch their channels. Its about giving more people the chance to see GAA in the most convenient way possible.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 11/03/2014 15:22:01    1558303

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the more money the gaa get then the players will eventually be looking for bigger and bigger slices of it

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 11/03/2014 15:33:57    1558307

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11/03/2014 12:04:46 hill16no1man
wont happen for championship matches. they might give couple leauge games but no way exclusive championship matches to an outside station. would be commercial suicide! its a red herrin to up the anti in the bidding for championship rights
no doubt sky have enquired that much would be true as they obviously would like to see whats on offer but gaa releasing this is to put the wind up rte sales and I think its about time the gaa have done this to rugby tv i mean rte as for too long rte have had it all their own way its like when you go to buy a house and they say others have put in a bid of 200 thousand are you willing to offer 210 thousand
also dont see how people believe sky will offer better punditry haha
whats the option an english panel of guys who never played or no anything about gaa
or guys that rte setanta and tv 3 deemed not good enough

Why do you think if Sky got the coverage they would get an english panel as pundits. Theyd get irish people, former players, journalists etc. Theyd get the best like they do in all their sports coverage
Why would it be commercial suicide if Sky used its considerable resources and got more viewers, got more money into the coffers of each county board to spend on development of coaches, players etc

I didnt say they would get an english panel read again
I said whats the option get and english panel or guys who were not good enough for rte or tv3
how is that going to improve punditry
if there were better pundits dont you think rte or tv3 would be using them?
if sky took it over it would hit the gaa pocket as a pay per view channell showing gaa exclusively would reduce
the viewers considerably compared to a station that is readily available in every house in the country
how would they get more viewers in ireland
people arent going to spend more money to watch gaa
when they could have watched it all along without paying more money

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/03/2014 15:43:36    1558314

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kerryluck

the more money the gaa get then the players will eventually be looking for bigger and bigger slices of it



I wouldn't mind players getting a slice for 3 reasons, 1) they put in professional efforts and limit their young social lives for no pay so giving them a slice wouldn't be so bad, 2) unless a broadcaster was willing to pay tens of millions per year we won't ever see the dreaded professionalism, 3) the players most likely will not see any slices of anything anytime soon, so rest assured.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 11/03/2014 15:46:26    1558317

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I think we could be doing with better coverage of GAA. However I can't really see Sky improving upon existing coverage.

Between RTE 1, RTE 2, TV3 and TG4 you would think that at least 2 x Sunday National league games, and maybe a Saturday evening game could be shown.

I would also like to see a more expansive and detailed analysis of games, instead of the usual aul "Cavan are going well, but I think Limerick might just have too much for them" short comment analysis.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 11/03/2014 16:20:46    1558343

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It's not a go at Dublin Ormond they are entitled to cash in on their success and they do bring much finance and interest to the GAA so I am not surprised SKY is sniffing about given Dublin football and hurling's high profile and the potential for more subscriptions in the Dublin area. My big fear is that the GAA is not just about Dublin, Kerry, Kilkenny or Clare; it is not about an elite and we if money is not spread around we are in danger of alientating counties and fans. I guess most of any games shown will be Dublin and the rest of the elite giving them far more resources than everyone else; then the era of the amateur game is gone forever and we might as well introduce a professional league.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9719 - 11/03/2014 21:57:02    1558572

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agree with Garymc82.

terrestrial tv should be well able to cope. and We need professional analysts who actually know something about ALL teams. No problem with SKY getting involved with overseas broadcasts at all but would they have their own commentators and analysts or simply re-broadcast other stations coverage (which is what I believe is happening at the moment with Premier).
also BBC show ulster championship games

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 12/03/2014 09:28:55    1558587

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Ulsterman, I dont see how you can be making a case against sky for showing the top teams more, that is exactly what rte and tv3 do at the minute. They are a world-leader in sports broadcasting, does it really matter where they are from?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/03/2014 09:33:21    1558588

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If sky get a load of matches then no matter how good and professional the punditry is - I wont be hearing it as I cant justify the expense of getting sky sports in.
The FA cup is a lost competition to me these days as I don't have BT - I know many other people feel the same

I hope the GAA wont go in the same direction...

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1419 - 12/03/2014 10:15:12    1558600

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This is the way the free market works. I hope if sky does get a deal, that the players will get a slice of the action, or at least some recognition through sponsorship or 'informal economic' bonuses. Sky are a great service, as are upc, but they are expensive. The money has to trickle back some way or else it is not totally justified.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 12/03/2014 10:18:31    1558603

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Maybe im showing my age here but if i remember correctly sky had a highlights programme in the 90's with Jimmy Magee commentating on all the games shown, they may have shown both all ireland finals live im not sure.
Id assume that maybe this is the road theyre going to go down again or has someone heard they are interested in broadcasting live games

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 12/03/2014 10:44:08    1558619

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What difference does it makes to anyone in the Republic Of Ireland if Sky gets the rights? It won't affect Rte and TV3 coverage so why are lads so against it? Better Sky have it than Premier sports whose coverage of GA is about fifth choice on the station. At least with Sky having so many channels there will never be match coverage delayed


the thing is with premier sports . if there is a match live on RTe they show it, if there is one on TG4 they show it, if there is one on TV3 they show it, if there is one on Setanta they show it. if there is one on rte online only they show it. Would Sky be able to do this

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 12/03/2014 10:57:47    1558626

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Would much prefer if the GAA had nothing to do with the Murdoch empire and it's neo-con agenda. Of course, eejits will be sold by the flashing lights and nice looking women, but to have to fund Murdoch and his discredited organization to watch my national sports is galling really. I certainly won't be doing it

srb (Antrim) - Posts: 344 - 12/03/2014 11:45:25    1558644

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Try and see the benefits of Sky taking over some Gaa matches before knocking it, you never know the good it could do for our great games if they were to get a far higher level of exposure.

Ps, what's wrong with beautiful women??? I never had a problem with them anyway ;-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/03/2014 12:12:03    1558656

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Ps, what's wrong with beautiful women??? I never had a problem with them anyway ;-)


I'd say they find plenty of problems with you wha!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13724 - 12/03/2014 12:31:45    1558664

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I'd say they find plenty of problems with you wha!


Haha, no no in fairness now I never give trouble........I always pay up before we start ;-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 12/03/2014 12:38:32    1558668

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srb
Would much prefer if the GAA had nothing to do with the Murdoch empire and it's neo-con agenda. Of course, eejits will be sold by the flashing lights and nice looking women, but to have to fund Murdoch and his discredited organization to watch my national sports is galling really. I certainly won't be doing it


While other ejits will fail to realise that they would be buying rights to show games like any other broadcaster, not buying the soul of the gaa!

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 12/03/2014 12:56:00    1558684

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Would suit me fine. As it stands I have got Sky and can RTE and TG4 but neither TV3 or Setanta so from a purely selfish point of view if Sky were to take the TV3 and Setanta share then the sooner the better.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 12/03/2014 13:16:15    1558693

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