8 weeks for a bite is very very poor from the GAA. I know he's from Dublin, but this is taking the ****. Two months is giving someone a box in a row. A bite is 10 times worse. Ridiculous.

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You're right, It is most certainly taking the ****, It is, in essance, a four game ban from the CCCC if the ban starts immediately. He is out for Kerry (H), Westmeath (A), Cork (H), Kildare (H).

However, I will be surprised if he plays for Dublin this year.

I actually believe it should be taken out of Jim Gavins hands, I think the DCB should automatically make Jason unavailable for selection for the forseeable (The beginning of 2015 maybe) so that Jim is not put in the awkward situation.

As i said, I was in the Gibson hotel with the team after the All Ireland final and Jason Whelan came across as a really likable bloke, And he is a very good young player with a very bright future ahead of him (Could take paul flynns spot in the future), But this sort of thing is simply not acceptable. Although the GAA have given a facile ban, Its now over to the DCB to dish their own punishment, I hope they have te liathroidi to make an example of him and to let not only Jason Whelan, But every player in the country that biting will have dire consequences.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/01/2014 11:31:51    1535534

There you go...

It takes jimbo to bring together Liam / Wayno in peace.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 23/01/2014 11:33:21    1535536

TheMaster
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Can we get back to talking about the actual issue?

Do people think gavin should drop him for the year? Going forward, it would set the right type of precedent, and in fairness he wouldnt be in the championship squad anyway, so it is an ideal situation to get it into guys head that this wont be tolerated by anyone.

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Yeah, listen it pains me to say it because he's a fellow club man... but a statement needs to be made and that means that Jason shouldn't be playing for Dublin this year.

Horrible situation. A bad day for Dublin GAA and I'm sure JW would deeply regret his actions

But at least a punishment has been dished out and this situation has not been left in limbo.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 23/01/2014 11:39:34    1535539

And fair play for holding your hands up also on the player thing. And maybe I did go ott on you there and you know what, for that, I apologise to you also.

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No need to apologise.

No big deal Liam.

A truce, At last, Lets see how long it lasts. I'll give it a week ha!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/01/2014 11:40:18    1535540

Most Dublin posters have been saying if someone was found guilty or if an offence had taken place they would react, the posts over the last few days and weeks by people have shown how dangerous it is to condemn someone without having the full picture. Wrong people get named and they have to constantly deny it. If this case had of disappeared an innocent person would have been the one who would of always been presumed the guilty party.
Thankfully this case was followed through and the right person got punished ,although an 8 WEEK ban is a joke it should have been a year,(but stupidly that's what is the sentence for such an act). Its a terrible act and worse than punching someone and I think the guy will regret his moment of madness for a long time. There is no point in people trying to have a go at Dublin posters on here and trying to get the maximum
apologies out of them, The guys actions brought embarrassment to the Dublin jersey, its something we don't want associated with Dublin football, its shameful and a dangerous thing to do. I wish the Donegal affair had of been done better and closure put on it also, but it didn't so that still is in the background of this case and probably where peoples anger also comes from.
As a Dub I hope not to have to see another thread like this one appear again . As a County with a huge amount of clubs and tradition this incident is not representative of Dublin GAA.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 23/01/2014 11:46:24    1535543

Do people think gavin should drop him for the year? Going forward, it would set the right type of precedent, and in fairness he wouldnt be in the championship squad anyway, so it is an ideal situation to get it into guys head that this wont be tolerated by anyone.

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Answered that in my above post

I believe the county board should take the decision out of Jim Gavins hands and make it themselves.

Its unfortunate because he is a lovely guy with incredible talent, But unfortunately, Now that he had been found guilty, The DCB must be seen to make a stand, Let their players in club and county level that incidents like that simply wont/cant be tolerated.

Everyone deserves a second chance hence why i dont believe a lifetime ban is necessary or the correct course of action which some Dublin fans said last night on social media when the story broke. The guy made a stupid stupid mistake and he will pay for it now. And rightly so.

Noone here will deny that.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/01/2014 11:48:17    1535545

Absolute joke of a suspension. To put things into context, according to the GAA rulebook there is a 12 week suspension for any individual or unit which fills a cup or trophy with any form of alcoholic beverage...

ringo (Wexford) - Posts: 384 - 23/01/2014 11:48:53    1535546

Yeah Jimbo, he is a nice guy and this was out of character, but I dont think he will get playing time with the Dubs again this year after this incident.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3736 - 23/01/2014 11:53:20    1535550

This is a game I truly love and to see the people regulating it constantly get things wrong just sickens me to my core. 8 weeks for biting is an absolutely disgraceful sentence for a disgusting act. A teammate of mine received 2 months just for flippin off a referee

breakingball22 (Louth) - Posts: 419 - 23/01/2014 11:55:15    1535552

He's gotten his punishment, so thats the end of it. Obviously the circumstances were taken into account and 8 weeks was decided to be the appropriate sanction. Talk about never letting him play again is nonsense.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 23/01/2014 12:04:08    1535559

Ha, nevermind the bite, did anyone spot whelan throwing any booze into the sam maguire at any stage? That is where the real action is.

I wouldnt be too harsh on him, Im sure he knows he did wrong and for all we know the guy could have had his forearm rammed into whelans face at the time. If he has in fact owned up to it without there being proof then that is to be applauded. Let him serve his ban, let gavin omit him for the year, and then let it be done. Hopefully andy kettle and these guys keep out of it and let it run its course, like should have happened last time. We see here on this thread that the mcbrearty issue still lingers, and this was a big part of the reason in my opinion. Let the same not happen here.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 23/01/2014 12:07:03    1535561

Firstly, i'm very disappointed that a Dublin player has been found guilty of such behaviour, our jersey is proud and has been done a disservice as a result of this. Biting is a despicable act on a field of play. The ban is far too lenient but i'm not at all in favour of setting new rules in an act of petulance. In hindsight, the rules are incorrect and need adjusted, a season long ban would be appropriate, but only after the appropriate avenues for change have been explored. We cannot just say we are horrified, lets ban him for 26 weeks without provision to do so. While many would agree it is not an appropriate way to run an organisation.

In this case, Liam was correct to call out any Dublin poster who identified a player, is was the correct thing to do as the worst case scenario occurred in that the wrong player was named. I think a lesson for all was learned here. Use your anonymity on a popular forum wisely.

I think admin should learn a lesson too. That initial post should never have got through the filter!

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 23/01/2014 12:07:35    1535562

This is a game I truly love and to see the people regulating it constantly get things wrong just sickens me to my core. 8 weeks for biting is an absolutely disgraceful sentence for a disgusting act. A teammate of mine received 2 months just for flippin off a referee. I also remember an incident a long time ago where a player got a year for biting in my county. I honestly think if Galvin had been the culprit he would get a year. And yet the GAA hop up on their high horse with black cards and cynical play. Give me cynical play any day of the week over this disgusting, animal-like behaviour (and i'm not condoning cynical play btw). Double standards all over the shop. This is a dark day for our game. Also, not Dublin's fault that the sentence was so lenient but I hope they impose their own sanctions on the player! RANT OVER :)

breakingball22 (Louth) - Posts: 419 - 23/01/2014 12:11:10    1535563

The Irish Independent more or less named a different player a number of weeks ago, and it was widely assumed that that player was the culprit.

Do people think that had any bearing on this conclusion. ie. there must have been a bit of pressure on Whelan to admit what he did in order to exonerate the other player.

BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 23/01/2014 12:19:55    1535570

Wayno, all good my friend. All good. I got your back :)

Jimbo... we will let this one slide but i am genuinely ****** off by what you said, but I am sure you couldnt care less. Howsever, we have more important things to worry about.

Just to reiterate, the ban is farcical, the act dispicable and in my opinion he shouldnt play for Dublin again. Biting is just so so so low.

Put it to you this way lads, if Ryan McMenamin had done it a few years back it would have been front page news.

For the record..he didnt :)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 23/01/2014 12:27:45    1535574

In this case, Liam was correct to call out any Dublin poster who identified a player, is was the correct thing to do as the worst case scenario occurred in that the wrong player was named. I think a lesson for all was learned here. Use your anonymity on a popular forum wisely.

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Agree Sean. Completely agree.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/01/2014 12:28:00    1535575

The Irish Independent more or less named a different player a number of weeks ago, and it was widely assumed that that player was the culprit.

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Look,

The Irish independent said the incident occured in the second half, and a player from each side was booked in the aftermath.

When i commented i simply pointed out that the only incident in that second half where both players was booked was ... (and i named the number), I didnt name the player but i (wrongly) went on the understanding of the II. As it turns out the II reported it wrong in the days after the game.

It doesnt excuse my post in which i was silly to say the number of the Dublin player booked in the second half after an altercation with a DCU player. But thats where i got my information from.

Both where wrong, Shameful really. I personally can only apologise for mentioning the Dubin players number who was booked in the coming together as i turned out to be the wrong guy.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 23/01/2014 12:32:58    1535576

No, I think after what happened previously brought this to a swift conclusion.

The Player, the Management, the County Board and the Fans all wanted this sorted asap.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3736 - 23/01/2014 12:33:59    1535579

8 Weeks is a joke. The young lad will no doubt learn his lesson from this biting incident. I would imagine the young man feels dreadful about this but look if that's the worst crime in the world then god help us. There's a lot worse people out there doing dreadful crimes. Lets give the lad time to repent and see how he responds to this incident. It might make him a better and stronger young man in time. Some of the stuff written is way O.T.T.. Some folk get a buzz out of these threads i reckon.

kerry74 (Kerry) - Posts: 1354 - 23/01/2014 12:41:42    1535583

Ah jimbo, cyberbullying, FFS, that's taking it a bit far. Wayno and Liam have never seen eye to eye on things and both are well able to talk for themselves. I've seen much worse personal shots on this thing or pieces that could be construed as cyber bullying than the recent tete-a-tete Liam and Wayno have had. No need for you to turn this into something more.

In regards the ban, I think 8 weeks for a bite is pretty weak. I'd be hoping the DCB inflict their own suspension too. I wouldn't jump all over Jason Whelan but discipline on this has to be administered one way or the other

NavyNBlue (Dublin) - Posts: 1357 - 23/01/2014 12:45:23    1535585