Why are there still 2 threads on this issue..??

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3736 - 22/07/2014 10:10:15    1623669

http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF275/890207.jpg

I think this photo shows EOG was wearing a Gum Shield...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3736 - 22/07/2014 10:31:01    1623693

Why are there still 2 threads on this issue..??

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Cause it's a Dublin player accused.

We had the same issue with Paul Galvin, If he so much as looked a someone the wrong way a feckin thread would appear.

Used to do my head in man.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/07/2014 11:01:42    1623732

Exactly Fionn he us wearing a gum shield
I don't know how you can leave teeth marks while wearing one

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 11:50:57    1623799

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1623693 http://www.sportsfile.com/winshare/w540/Library/SF275/890207.jpg

I think this photo shows EOG was wearing a Gum Shield...

But the photo i put up was during the incident. Look thats kind of my point. Photos from different angles show different things and there is no clear cut evidence of either a bite or a fish hook. Ok there are photos of Burke Screaming in Pain and then reacting. There is also a photo that shows what looks like a fish hook on O'Gara but thats a still photo that could be showing Burke Pulling his finger out after "the bite". What i'm trying to say it that this has been blown up to be something massive and it should never have come to that. It should have been dealt with by MOD and JG and the Doctors and no media because photos show different kinds of things that look like they are happening but may not be. I think Meath were very wrong to make this public. Burke & O'Gara shook hands afterwards so that should have been the end of it. And i agree if O'Gara is punished for this then Burke has to be as well.

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 22/07/2014 13:17:14    1623920

What MOD says doesnt entirely add up, I've no issue with him claiming it, He has every right to say it, But He said, and i quote "He's gone to the Dublin dressing-room to talk to the Dublin doctor because there's a protocol to deal with in terms of a bite, in terms of blood transferring from one person to another. Extremely disappointed."

There was no blood, If there was, Where is it in the still pictures


This picture >> http://www.sportsfile.com/id/890291/ Shows Mickey Burke showing the lino his middle finger on his left hand, No visable blood

This picture >> http://www.sportsfile.com/id/890187/ meanwhile shows Mickey Burke inspecting his right hand, If you look at his left hand there is no blood or any signs of a bite. (Thats not to say one didn't occur)

Either way, I've made my points on this as unbiased as i can.

At the end of the day i hope this is resolved one way or the other, And quick!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/07/2014 14:38:26    1624045

wayno
well spotted pal
like i said if as hes shown to be wearing a gumshield i dont know where he took it out to have done this anyway
if the gaa suspend o gara it will be simply because they want to follow soccers example and try say its not allowed
but if they suspend without any real proper proof in this situation
what will happen after you could have anybody claiming they got bit and you could open up a whole knew way of cheating and lying

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 15:02:17    1624093

I agree Waynol 100%. There is no blood in nay photos. Burke Shook hands with o'Gara afterwards and also stayed on the pitch until the Dubs got the Cup so it doesn't add up. Look i think it was a knee jerk reaction to maybe a bit of swelling or a bite mark (maybe) and i think he will be regretting it this week. Heat of the moment stupidity in my opinion. This needs to be put to bed all all parties need to move on

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 22/07/2014 15:10:10    1624107

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I agree Waynol 100%. There is no blood in nay photos. Burke Shook hands with o'Gara afterwards and also stayed on the pitch until the Dubs got the Cup so it doesn't add up. Look i think it was a knee jerk reaction to maybe a bit of swelling or a bite mark (maybe) and i think he will be regretting it this week. Heat of the moment stupidity in my opinion. This needs to be put to bed all all parties need to move on

agree with you there
but the gaa should come straight out and say that the matter has been dealt with by the ref
as the rule doesnt allow the cccc to suspend a player who has been yellow carded for the incident during the match
why they are not just issuing that statement is beyond me
there letting the media have a field day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 15:22:49    1624132

Agree with you there Hill. The sooner they do the better because its back and forwards. People slating it or defending it and nobody knows the facts. Simple statement from the Gaa to say it was dealt with by the referee will sort all that out and then we can move on to the next game

chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 22/07/2014 15:37:55    1624166

exacatly becuase if meath do pursue it they are likely to get two players suspended anyway from the video evidence
and i dont think dublin even cared about the incident.
they both have big matches ahead and should concentrate on that
as the only winners would be the teams they play next

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 18:05:05    1624323

hill

exacatly becuase if meath do pursue it they are likely to get two players suspended anyway from the video evidence
and i dont think dublin even cared about the incident.
they both have big matches ahead and should concentrate on that
as the only winners would be the teams they play next

hill I don't often agree with you and I haven't read most of the posts on this thread so I have no idea what you're previous thought on the matter were but I have to say I fully agree with that post of yours, you're spot on.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 22/07/2014 18:49:30    1624362

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Indeed he did shake hands, but as soon as O'Gara turned his back he started going on to the ref about his finger again!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 22/07/2014 19:09:22    1624378

I should think the initial protocol for this situation would entail a medical report confirming whether or not Mickey Bourke was bitten in the incident. Further investigation would require testimony from the parties involved, and finally a conclusion reached from all of the accumulated evidence. Basically, if Mickey Bourke was bitten and the Doctor can verify this through physical evidence, then O Gara will receive some form of a ban.

bryanadams (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 22/07/2014 19:37:56    1624411

Bryanadams

But that would be breaking the rules
As the rule is their that if the ref awards a yellow card during the match for the incident then it cannot be revisited by disciplinary bodies as its deemed to have been dealt with.
This has already happened several times over the last two years for other incidents

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 19:57:11    1624432

Htaem Haha must be because I got the prediction for the crowd right on Sunday haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/07/2014 21:33:24    1624532

Matter is dropped by GAA this morning, as there was no evidence and Meath were unwilling to make a further submission.

What a waste of time.

Certain parties came out of all this with egg on their face imo.

Anyway, time to move on....!!

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3736 - 23/07/2014 08:58:51    1624586

No charges being brought against anyone for last Sunday. Now we can all move on from this and both counties can prepare for their forthcoming games.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 23/07/2014 09:21:44    1624594

Ok well that appears to be the end of it thankfully, but this is why I would have liked MOD to hold off before making claims be them legitimate or otherwise, Burke was probably just irate after the game and MOD backed his man too soon. If the Meath management have any sense then this is the last we'll hear of this incident, time to focus on Armagh and nothing else.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 23/07/2014 09:41:50    1624605

haha what a weird line to use there was no evidence against any player
they decided to hand 3 game ban to o brien with no video footage of the incident haha so where did they have evidence
on that occasion to hand that down in the first place and only for mcbrearty didnt turn up he would have had to serve that.
the right conclusion for dublin and meath obviously has been reached but gaa could have just came out and said the matter was dealt with by the ref during the match as saying there is no evidence is ridiculous as you can say the whole thing on sunday game footage

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 23/07/2014 09:45:19    1624610