Think this has been discussed to death, posters who rightly disagreed with the actions of the Dub lad and lenient sentence have had their say and rightly so, the only ones left are the ones who are usually hanging on near the end of most Dub threads before they are closed.
So now the discussion wont really be anything about the incident, just past grievances will be brought to the fore.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 26/01/2014 17:52:49    1536841

MesAmis
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Moomoo

How is discussing the relative coverage of the incident versus others in the context of the profile of the game trying to brush the incident under the carpet. Do explain.

We are discussing the incident so therefore not in any way brushing it under the carpet. You really are a funny little poster who doesn't seem to understand the most basic of things.

You seem to believe that Dublin posters continuing to discuss an incident equates to those Dublin posters trying to brush said incident under the carpet. I mean that is classic moomoo inability to understand things. Brilliant stuff.

Ah yes you are. The profile of the game makes no difference makes no difference, you're trying to tell us because it didnt happen in a high profile game it shouldnt be dealt with in the same way. If the same thing happened next wekk during the league you'd have another excuse as they why it was somehow different because the league isnt as high profile..

As i said you're not trying to discuss it now are you? You're trying to bring in things that have nothing ti do with the subject to try and change the subject, as you might say yourself another classic MesAmis/Dublin move.

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 17:58:01    1536845

Jimbo,

The 'problem' has been understood and fixed; the player admitted biting an opponent, has received a ban and that's it. What is to now 'understand' unless you are providing an excuse and context in which it was justified? If this had been racist or sectarian would you still be seeking to 'understand' why the guilty player did it? By creating a rationale in which you seek a reason why the player did you lessen the 'crime' and indeed justify it if you think the player had a reason to it. If young Whelan stated why he did it would that make it OK for you and fellow Dubs? If not why are now asking the question other than to provide an excuse?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 26/01/2014 18:01:29    1536852

Mes

Very true

JW is out for 8 weeks

Rightly so, he broke the rules in a violent manner while reacting to being choked

Given the circumstanes I don't think he should be being portrayed as Jack The Ripper

He'll hopefully be back playing for Dublin in the near future

Might be very difficult to break into the team

I think he was in with a chance of starting against Kerry

But he has to serve his time. He was honest enough to get on with it...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/01/2014 18:01:41    1536853

Moo Moo is right :)

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 26/01/2014 18:08:51    1536861

Sorry UM

I don't agree

Understanding a problem is the basis to solving a problem

It's quite obvious that Im not justifying biting

For one... I've condemned his actions

But given the set of circumstances it's highly likely that Id do the same thing

In that respect.. he deserves a chance to serve his time and come back to play for Dublin

Which hopefully he will do during the league

Be careful with your "Dublin smelling of roses" comment... as if it wasn't obvious enough

It points to your true intentions.




As has been mentioned by a number of posters

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/01/2014 18:16:40    1536866

realdub
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Moo Moo is right :)

So you agree with your fellow county men when they say he was justified in his actions then?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 18:30:18    1536876

I do love the smell of roses

Especially the caramel one with the nut

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/01/2014 18:34:47    1536877

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Sorry UM

I don't agree

Understanding a problem is the basis to solving a problem

It's quite obvious that Im not justifying biting

For one... I've condemned his actions

But given the set of circumstances it's highly likely that Id do the same thing

In that respect.. he deserves a chance to serve his time and come back to play for Dublin

Which hopefully he will do during the league

Be careful with your "Dublin smelling of roses" comment... as if it wasn't obvious enough

It points to your true intentions.




As has been mentioned by a number of posters

Seems to me you're trying to justify it with this comment alone. You also contradict your first comment when you say ''For one... I've condemned his actions'' Then again thats nothing new for you now is it?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 18:35:07    1536878

As long as players think that they are in a UFC fight... and try to strangle hold you into submission

Biting is going to happen

It's one of the most natural reactions to having your air ways restricted

They teach biting techniques in self defence classes

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/01/2014 18:47:59    1536893

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As long as players think that they are in a UFC fight... and try to strangle hold you into submission

Biting is going to happen

It's one of the most natural reactions to having your air ways restricted

They teach biting techniques in self defence classes

Again there you are trying to justify it. By your logic Paul Galvin had been justified in his actions in the past has he? By your logic he was defending himself? Or are you just being hypocritical again?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 19:00:36    1536899

No moomoo

listen if you can't undetstand that's fair enough

What he did was against the rules and he deserves his punishment

But I won't buy into hysteria and condemn him outright

Because I understand why he did it and has been pointed out by a number of posters

Many not from Dublin

I probably would have done the samething

I would have gladly broken GAA rules if I was in pain and couldn't breath...

I couldn't give a monkeys about other peoples hysteria and bias...

But he did what he did... Got 8 wks for defending himself in an aggresive manner

If you break the rules you get punished. He openly put himself forward to be judged

As I said... in the real world they teach men/women biting techniques in self defence classes

Once your not on a GAA pitch... It's ok to prevent someone from starving you of oxygen by biting them

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/01/2014 19:06:55    1536904

moomoo
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realdub
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Moo Moo is right :)

So you agree with your fellow county men when they say he was justified in his actions then?


Moo Moo, I agree with everything you say :)

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 26/01/2014 19:13:39    1536908

jimbodub
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No moomoo

listen if you can't undetstand that's fair enough

What he did was against the rules and he deserves his punishment

But I won't buy into hysteria and condemn him outright

Because I understand why he did it and has been pointed out by a number of posters

Many not from Dublin

I probably would have done the samething

I would have gladly broken GAA rules if I was in pain and couldn't breath...

I couldn't give a monkeys about other peoples hysteria and bias...

But he did what he did... Got 8 wks for defending himself in an aggresive manner

If you break the rules you get punished. He openly put himself forward to be judged

As I said... in the real world they teach men/women biting techniques in self defence classes

Once your not on a GAA pitch... It's ok to prevent someone from starving you of oxygen by biting them

Unbelievable how anyone could say they are not trying to justify something with the comments you've made ill never know. Then again it is you we're talking about so its no surprise.

Not comment on what iv said about Paul Gavlin? You're normally very fast to talk about him why not now?

Id love to know what kind of self defense classes you go to. Also explain to us how one would bite another person if they had their hand on their trout? Surely they would be able to seeing as the person doing it would be holding them away would they not?

Alos you're not very fast to look for evidence from other people so show us yours for what you say happened?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 19:24:21    1536918

Its a topic about Dublin, so it attracts moomoo and Ulsterman as they love Dublin posts. In fact, have we ever heard either say anything positive about Dublin???

Ulsterman yammers on about "southern media".... moomoo talks about how Dublin get favourable treatment from the GAA hierarchy all the time

So is it really surprising a thread about biting and Dublin has got these two slamming Dublin and Dublin posters.

Justify JW's biting.....Im justifying it 100 percent. If the guy is choking you get him off any way you can. If that's a bite its a bite. Im not justifying BITING in sport. But you are foolish to think that in a fight or flight situation you wouldn't do anything to stop someone hurting you. While JW was being choked out I'd imagine he was thinking "Oh....will I bite this guy to get him off or let him continue to choke me; ah this is gonna give HS posters who hate Dublin a field day. I wont, I'll possibly be injured seriously with this lad choking me, but for the good of the GAA I wont bite him.....OH WHAT WILL I DO....SUCH A DECISION"

He got a ban ...... for biting.

Are you guys seriously gonna say that we should "brush under the carpet" the reason why he bit someone? That its insignificant?

Actually you will.....because ye never agree with anything that is common sense.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 26/01/2014 19:49:03    1536938

I've stayed well out of this because my head was wrecked last summer on HS with the McBrearty incident.

For what it's worth I think that these things should ideally be dealt with in house with a good kick in the arse and a severe warning from both management & senior players. These incidents have not helped the image of a fine Dublin team & it's not good for the GAA either.

That said it's not dangerous in the way that some, so called, shoulder to shoulder tackles are either. The suspension is about right & I'm sure the lad will have learned his lesson.

Onward & upward.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/01/2014 19:55:39    1536943

Moomoo

Please learn to understand what you read my friend. I was discussing why there was less coverage of the incident than the Seán Cavanagh incident. In no way did I say that the profile of the game made any difference. Your inability to understand what you read really is amazing at times.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 26/01/2014 20:12:39    1536958

Also JayP you are jimbo for that matter are making quite claim that he was being choked, have ye also got anything to back that claim up?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 20:20:16    1536965

Well just to throw some petrol on the flames,if the lad was indeed being choked then it makes the bite look much less "agressive" and a bit more "defensive".As an Antrim poster said earlier he kneed a fella in the groin once when being choked,not pretty in either case but you do have a right to protect yourself even on the football field. In fact if this went to a hearing were both players had to appear then the "Choker" should be disciplined also.I don't know if this is what happened but if it was as some posters are portraying it then its not a dirty aggressive nasty bite in the same category as say Luis Suarez were there was no mitigating factors at all.Just saying,every incident has to be understood in context.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 26/01/2014 20:27:18    1536971

MesAmis
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Moomoo

Please learn to understand what you read my friend. I was discussing why there was less coverage of the incident than the Seán Cavanagh incident. In no way did I say that the profile of the game made any difference. Your inability to understand what you read really is amazing at times.

I would say what you're saying is unbelievable but then i stop and think who it is. Yes and by doing so you're trying to brush it under the carpet. Like i said if it happened in a few weeks time in the league you'd have another another excuse as to why the profile of the game or coverage didnt matter. As ever your story will change and you'll bring up something else that has nothing to do with anything just to try and prove your point

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 26/01/2014 20:36:50    1536979