Dear oh dear. And I recall people claiming that the Dublin footballers used to bottle matches. That was bottling on an epic scale!

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/11/2013 09:34:19    1517373

Hurling dub
What's that? Who bottled it kid?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/11/2013 10:34:34    1517412

Sixmilebridge. Should have held out for a draw

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 25/11/2013 10:50:32    1517426

The rugger chappies Kingdom.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/11/2013 10:57:54    1517429

Hurling dub thats a harsh assessment.Ireland didnt bottle it yesterday.
If that penalty from Sexton had gone over it was all over and they
were seconds away from victory against the world champions, misfortune
beat Ireland who were terrific yesterday.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1618 - 25/11/2013 11:27:05    1517452

Sexton's pot herbs were gone. Anyway, at least we won't have to listen to them going on and on and on about it for years :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/11/2013 11:35:55    1517464

Not that harsh a statement, Ireland WERE brilliant yesterday but if a Mayo man or Dub for that matter missed that kick in an AI semi or final he would be accused of bottling, and thats what Sexton did!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 25/11/2013 12:19:56    1517491

Not bottled. It was amazing that sexton even played yesterday. Full credit to the team who were immense. Dont forget this wasnt some mickey mouse team they were playing. This all blacks outfit are rightly hailed as one of the best ever and Ireland nearly had them. Of course Sexton should have scored but its not his fault that Ireland didnt score from the 33rd minute on. Anyway what has this got to do with the RWC 2023 thread. Cheap shots from so called Gaels are unbecoming.

jpcampion (Laois) - Posts: 194 - 25/11/2013 12:29:58    1517496

Exactly realbub. The All Blacks are on their holidays, same as the Aussies. They were out drinking after the AIG thing with the Dubs during the week. Its about the equivalent of an All Stars tour, or Man United playing some team in Tokoyo in July.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/11/2013 12:35:17    1517502

Should have whipped that mic off ROG and sent him on just for that kick!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 25/11/2013 12:38:45    1517504

Oh right hurlingdub , I seen a bit about that on the 6 o'clock new yesterday, I heard sexton fluffed it big time.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/11/2013 12:58:35    1517515

Brutal miss, no bottle, there wasn't even much pressure, they were 5 ahead in a friendly match. Any gaa or hurling freetaker worth his salt would have and has held their nerve in much more pressurized circumstances. Canning last year must have had fifty times the pressure on his shoulders, for one. Loser.

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 25/11/2013 15:22:51    1517610

25/11/2013 11:27:05
REDANDBLACK30
Hurling dub thats a harsh assessment.Ireland didnt bottle it yesterday. If that penalty from Sexton had gone over it was all over and they
were seconds away from victory against the world champions, misfortune beat Ireland who were terrific yesterday. Yes. +1. No bottling from Ireland. we were fantastic yesterday and can still improve on that performance
25/11/2013 12:19:56
realdub
Not that harsh a statement, Ireland WERE brilliant yesterday but if a Mayo man or Dub for that matter missed that kick in an AI semi or final he would be accused of bottling, and thats what Sexton did! Sexton didn't bottle anything. He was physically wrecked and unlucky.

25/11/2013 12:29:58
jpcampion
Not bottled. It was amazing that sexton even played yesterday. Full credit to the team who were immense. Dont forget this wasnt some mickey mouse team they were playing. This all blacks outfit are rightly hailed as one of the best ever and Ireland nearly had them. Of course Sexton should have scored but its not his fault that Ireland didnt score from the 33rd minute on. Anyway what has this got to do with the RWC 2023 thread. Cheap shots from so called Gaels are unbecoming. +1

25/11/2013 12:35:17
hurlingdub
=Exactly realbub. The All Blacks are on their holidays, same as the Aussies. They were out drinking after the AIG thing with the Dubs during the week. Its about the equivalent of an All Stars tour, or Man United playing some team in Tokoyo in July. they were not on holidays. It was final game of season going for unprecedented season and breaking a record if they won. Nothing like an all stars tour or pre season soccer friendly and to say otherwise is trolling

25/11/2013 15:22:51
flack
Brutal miss, no bottle, there wasn't even much pressure, they were 5 ahead in a friendly match. Any gaa or hurling freetaker worth his salt would have and has held their nerve in much more pressurized circumstances. Canning last year must have had fifty times the pressure on his shoulders, for one. LoserOnly loser is you with a bitter pathetic post like that. Cant quantify anything with regard to Canning last year. He has held his nerve in pressurised situations before but missed yesterday anyway it wasn't the missed kick that lost us the game other factors than that

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/11/2013 16:20:18    1517635

Ormond, they were out drinking with Dublin players last Wednesday after the AIG gig in Westsmanstown. I think that shows how seriously they take it. Of course they want to keep their unbeaten record, but sure Kilkenny have records like that against Meath and Wicklow and Kerry. They'd hardly be lying awake worrying about losing it :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/11/2013 17:14:57    1517671

The fact the All Blacks made 7 changes to their team from the week before and their game against England, with I think only 1 enforced through injury, tells you what they thought of Ireland. They nearly got caught out but Irelands lack of bottle came to their rescue. It is amazing that Ireland, with more rugby players in the country than New Zealand possess, have never in their history managed to beat them. Food for thought to all those counties who say they can not compete with Dublin and their huge resources!

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 25/11/2013 17:30:26    1517686

He was wrecked..... Yes


He was unlucky.... Wrong

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 25/11/2013 17:44:37    1517698

It is unfair to say that he bottled it. I really do not like that term. He probably should have scored but he did not and that is sport. He has scored in difficult situations in the past and he is good player and sportsman. I feel for anyone like him in such a situation.

Ireland were unlucky yesterday. I had not planned to watch the game as I thought we would be hammered (and being honest I am not much of a rugby fan as I stated earlier). However, the game was on and the fact that we scored three early tries made me watch until the end. Regardless of whether you think it was a friendly or not (I am indifferent to what kind of game it was), it would have been historic (again it does not matter what statistics you use to grandise or belittle it) had we won. We didn't and that is it.

Today on RTE Radio 1 news, the presenter asked Pauric Lodge had we 'recovered from the trauma' yet? To me that is exaggerating it slightly. We lost a game. Let us not play on it to much. After losing county finals and so on, you just have to pick yourself up and get on with it. That is sport. Whatever about our history against the All-Blacks, the day we 'nearly' beat them is an irrelevance. 'Nearly' gets you nowhere (we 'nearly' won the All-Ireland this year and my club 'nearly' won the county a few years back) and hopefully will be forgotten by all (except by maybe the players who may want to use it to improve).

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 25/11/2013 17:52:47    1517706

If Cluxton had missed that free in 2011, the same people who are celebrating being beaten by a team on their holidays, would have been calling us losers and bottlers. So pardon me for not joining in the festival of celebration of getting bate.... again :-)

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 25/11/2013 17:55:35    1517710

25/11/2013 17:14:57
hurlingdub
Ormond, they were out drinking with Dublin players last Wednesday after the AIG gig in Westsmanstown. I think that shows how seriously they take it. Of course they want to keep their unbeaten record, but sure Kilkenny have records like that against Meath and Wicklow and Kerry. They'd hardly be lying awake worrying about losing it :-) Going for few drinks on day that can often be seen as a down day. Not relevant.
They did seriously take the game and you could see it by how they upped their game to get the win. Your comparisions are ridiculous and pathetic go's at Irish rugby.
Im fairly sure they would be lying awake if they lost considering the bollocking they would receive as a result of losing back at home in NZ. The media and the general public would rip into them - for not getting perfect season, for first time loss to Ireland etc etc

25/11/2013 17:30:26
Soma
The fact the All Blacks made 7 changes to their team from the week before and their game against England, with I think only 1 enforced through injury, tells you what they thought of Ireland. They nearly got caught out but Irelands lack of bottle came to their rescue. It is amazing that Ireland, with more rugby players in the country than New Zealand possess, have never in their history managed to beat them. Food for thought to all those counties who say they can not compete with Dublin and their huge resources! No it shows their strength in depth. In the main they were not so much weakened by making that many changes. They have huge strength in depth and apart from their key 5/6 players anyone could slot into the team and they would be at the same ridiculously high level.
it wasn't a lack of bottle that cost Ireland the game.
New Zealand are the worlds best at rugby.
They are genetically better adapted to rugby than most races with their mix of islander/maori/white heritage. They place such a high premium on skills and that us why theyre better than us. You cant go on playing numbers alone or Cork/Kerry/Dublin would always wn football title. Its what you do with the resources you have

25/11/2013 17:44:37
realdub
He was wrecked..... Yes
He was unlucky.... Wrong He was wrecked and unlucky with the kick. He didn't have the cleanest of strikes and he was unlucky. Another day and he'd kick that 99//100

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/11/2013 18:04:24    1517718

Have to agree with the people saying Ireland shouldn't be applauding a loss.

Facts...... (Rafael Benitez style)

.........Ireland vs New Zealand was a friendly, Ireland lost

..........the Aussies went on the p**s before playing Ireland, and won handy

..........New Zealand had a few brewskis prior to Ireland game, played a lot of their second string and got the job done (in a friendly)

..........Ireland didn't score in the second half (Look at Mayos from play score in the AI Final....you HAVE to be scoring in both halves, and have to from play)

...........Ireland ran trough phase after phase, were out of ideas, and trying to run the clock down

............Ireland were high enough up the pitch to attempt a drop goal which would have won the game for them, they needed to play boldly not safely, trying to hang on prevented that

.............The best teams take chances, Man UTD score in the 86th min under Fergie, were they content with a draw, NO....they went for a win. The Kilkennys and Kerry's ram home their advantage if they are on top.

Facts over.....


Ireland players and tactics are just not good enough unfortunately

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 25/11/2013 18:15:42    1517721