royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 5089

You can't put sports popularity down to participation. In USA soccer has higher playing numbers than american football but is way down the list. It's played more because it's not an atlethic sport and is easier to play than american football. To a certain extent i'd say it's the same with football because it's easier to play than hurling especially at a young age.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 27/11/2013 20:59:53    1518606

Rebel would you go away outta that. Hurling is THE most mind numbing booring sport that I have ever had the misfortune to endure.
The bull that hurling people come out with that its so skill full that's why only a few people play it is total bs . Its not as enjoyable to watch or play as football, or for that matter any other sport. Now I'm no lover of soccer but by jasus its skill full. Anyone can whack a ball with a stick. If its your thing fair enough. But Gaelic football is far is superior in every aspect and that's why its the national game , the most popular that is. Anyway baseball would I imagine be USA national sport.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/11/2013 21:43:12    1518623

27/11/2013 20:59:53
RebelCork
You can't put sports popularity down to participation. In USA soccer has higher playing numbers than american football but is way down the list. It's played more because it's not an atlethic sport and is easier to play than american football. To a certain extent i'd say it's the same with football because it's easier to play than hurling especially at a young age. You can use participation in relation to popularity. to say otherwise is ridiculous
Soccer not an athletic sport??? You got to be messing.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/11/2013 21:44:03    1518625

27/11/2013 21:43:12
royaldunne
Rebel would you go away outta that. Hurling is THE most mind numbing booring sport that I have ever had the misfortune to endure.
The bull that hurling people come out with that its so skill full that's why only a few people play it is total bs . Its not as enjoyable to watch or play as football, or for that matter any other sport. Now I'm no lover of soccer but by jasus its skill full. Anyone can whack a ball with a stick. If its your thing fair enough. But Gaelic football is far is superior in every aspect and that's why its the national game , the most popular that is. Anyway baseball would I imagine be USA national sport. You went so OTT on a rant against hurling. why the hate?
Hurling is much more enjoyable to watch than Gaelic, rugby and soccer and so many other sports. Its up with the best sports in the world. Not as enjoyable to watch??? Gaelic too often is horrible to watch with blanket defences, no defined tackle etc all contributing to poor games at times. At its best gaelic is good but in the main hurling wins hands down.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/11/2013 21:49:45    1518630

ormondbannerman
County: Clare
Posts: 6345

Literialy anyone can be a pro soccer player. There's fellas playing top fight who are the size of a child. American football players spend half their carers in gyms (as do rugby players) some soccer players probaly go their whole life without lifting a weight. Plus the pitch is small there's very little long distance running. If you got an average corner back in gridiron the would be alot faster and stronger than any soccer player. Apart from strength and speed there's not alot of ways to judge athlethism.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 27/11/2013 21:53:16    1518631

soccer also has much higher playing numbers than basketball,gridiron,baseball,hockey yet anyone who said they are less popular than soccer are mad.

RebelCork (Cork) - Posts: 789 - 27/11/2013 21:55:02    1518633

27/11/2013 21:43:12
royaldunne
Rebel would you go away outta that. Hurling is THE most mind numbing booring sport that I have ever had the misfortune to endure.
The bull that hurling people come out with that its so skill full that's why only a few people play it is total bs . Its not as enjoyable to watch or play as football, or for that matter any other sport. Now I'm no lover of soccer but by jasus its skill full. Anyone can whack a ball with a stick. If its your thing fair enough. But Gaelic football is far is superior in every aspect and that's why its the national game , the most popular that is. Anyway baseball would I imagine be USA national sport. Jeez your hatred of hurling runs deep
Hurling is the most skilful sport in Ireland by a distance.
It is much more enjoyable to watch.
with your analogy of anyone can hit a ball with a hit then football is anyone who can kick a ball.
gaelic is not in the slightest far superior in every aspect? BTW what are all the aspects In which gaelic is so much superior?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/11/2013 21:56:52    1518636

My hatred of hurling is that it is so overrated. I've hit a fair few slaoitier in my time and apart from running with it on the hurl ala egg and spoon I didn't find it that difficult at all. Enjoyable to watch? Then why is football so much better attended? In 09 Meath played Mayo in quarter final, the match was fantastic end to end stuff, the one down point to that day was it was followed by a ai semi featuring kk and I think Waterford, honestly the kids said that at half time if we didn't leave they were going to call child line as what they were watching was cruelty. It was a real anticlimax after the wonderful game of football that had been played, dire stuff.
Hurling is held up by the analysis of pundits as been epic, blah blah . Utter nonsense. Add to that the title of all Ireland been associated with hurling is not only false its insulting , it really is , less than half the counties take part. Now as I've said if its your thing than fair enough but I'm a democrat and people vote with their feet so clearly hurling is not as loved as many would like to think it is.
I hate cricket, I have a friend who loves it, talking about how it is the most skilful game in world, he reminds me of hurling men, its not my cup of tea neither is hurling. Play it, watch it do whatever and I'll support that right at club level or anywhere, but don't tell me its better than football. Its not IMO. And majority of people would agree with that.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/11/2013 09:52:34    1518651

Football men always feel insecure when Hurling is praised for its skill, intensity, excitement and enjoyment. Four words which I find would be hard to insert into any football report.

lasttoknow (Tyrone) - Posts: 99 - 28/11/2013 10:45:32    1518662

You'd want to calm down before you break your little keyboard royaldunne, I don't know what world your living in, I think evryone except the terminally bigoted e njoys a good game of hurling. And most would admit that it's one of the, if not THE most skillful team game in the world. It's typically childish to whine about some one-sided match you saw. No-one wants to see a team being given a hiding. Unless it's Meath. ;-)

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 28/11/2013 11:31:28    1518680

Royaldunne is just the flipside of the majority of hurling fans.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 28/11/2013 12:00:51    1518697

lasttoknow
County: Tyrone
Posts: 69

1518662 Football men always feel insecure when Hurling is praised for its skill, intensity, excitement and enjoyment. Four words which I find would be hard to insert into any football report.

Has anyone got a dishcloth? This post is dripping with irony.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 28/11/2013 12:02:30    1518698

27/11/2013 21:53:16 RebelCork
ormondbannerman, Literialy anyone can be a pro soccer player. There's fellas playing top fight who are the size of a child. American football players spend half their carers in gyms (as do rugby players) some soccer players probaly go their whole life without lifting a weight. Plus the pitch is small there's very little long distance running. If you got an average corner back in gridiron the would be alot faster and stronger than any soccer player. Apart from strength and speed there's not alot of ways to judge athlethism.
HaHa "Literally anyone can be a pro soccer player".
What are you thinking? How can you say that?

You don't know much if you think rugby players spend half their careers in gyms and that soccer players don't lift weights. For a supposed small pitch top soccer players do an incredible amount of running with players running 13km and more at pro level and soccer players do lift weights but it wouldn't be any real high weights at all and instead they would do a huge amount of bodyweight work
Hard to make comparisons between American Football and most sports considering the specialised nature of most positions in American football

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/11/2013 12:03:01    1518699

Ormond, gaelic footballers coever a greater distance per minute than professional soccer players. Something like 126m/minute compared to 110/min. Aussue Rules players around 140/min.

hurlingdub (Dublin) - Posts: 6978 - 28/11/2013 13:07:21    1518723

ormond
yes its all well and good covering ground but its the intensity of the sports that is where they differ.you can go long periods in bth rugby and soccer where the game is played at ver slow pace and breaks in rugby occur almost like american football these days because of the tv ref which has gotten ridiculous at this stage,the ref himself no longer makes hardly any decisions,its running the pace of the game.soccer is also played at a reduced rate in terms of pace.
where as gaelic football would be the most fastest pace in terms of the players,where as hurling would be the fastest pace in terms of the speed in which the game is played.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 28/11/2013 14:54:00    1518769

can anybody tell me what this hurling v football v other sports arguement has to with the original thread ie rugby World Cup.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 28/11/2013 14:58:58    1518772

28/11/2013 13:07:21
hurlingdub
Ormond, gaelic footballers coever a greater distance per minute than professional soccer players. Something like 126m/minute compared to 110/min. Aussue Rules players around 140/min. That is fair enough but for posters to say stuff like "Literally anyone can be a pro soccer player" is what i was taking umbrage at as that is blatantly wrong

28/11/2013 14:54:00
hill16no1man
ormond, yes its all well and good covering ground but its the intensity of the sports that is where they differ.you can go long periods in bth rugby and soccer where the game is played at ver slow pace and breaks in rugby occur almost like american football these days because of the tv ref which has gotten ridiculous at this stage,the ref himself no longer makes hardly any decisions,its running the pace of the game.soccer is also played at a reduced rate in terms of pace.
where as gaelic football would be the most fastest pace in terms of the players,where as hurling would be the fastest pace in terms of the speed in which the game is playedtalking about pace in rugby dropping because of the video ref is hogwash and thats only sometimes. pace is getting faster and faster year on year
you are totally wrong about rugby when you say the ref hardly makes any decisions. Watch a game and you will see how wrong you are. there is so many decisions a ref has to make from the breakdown where is multiple decisions to watch out for to open plsy and etc etc

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/11/2013 15:01:55    1518777

Bit paranoid there breffni, the vast majority of hurlers also play Gaelic, can't say the same for footballers though. So who hates what? There are some people who slate the football, but your way way more likely to get a rugged goy or soccerhead giving out about football than a hurler. On the other hand, it's nearly exclusively footballers who whine about hurling, more than any other sportspeople.

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 28/11/2013 15:09:25    1518784

royaldunne
County: Meath

The bull that hurling people come out with that its so skill full that's why only a few people play it is total bs

Sure there is more skill in hurling than football. there is far more skill involved in taking a sideline in hurling compared to football, anyone can just kick a ball but not everyone take a sideline cut well.
and it is far harder to control a ball at pace on the stick than just catching a ball.
I would be a fan of football, and it would have been the first sport I played but its clear there is more skill involved in hurling

Rat.Lad.17 (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 28/11/2013 15:15:47    1518786

flack
County: Dublin
Posts: 136

On the other hand, it's nearly exclusively footballers who whine about hurling, more than any other sportspeople.

Genuinely cannot fathom how any one would come to this conclusion.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 28/11/2013 15:29:26    1518794