royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 4952

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I'd argue galway Monaghan Louth and Meath and down have as good as or more than likely better than Donegal.

Ya wha??? I thought you were all better now RD :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 17/10/2013 21:55:17    1502635

last time WEE played them in Division 2 WEE hammered them in the 2006 Final... bring them on

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 17/10/2013 22:00:12    1502642

Kick fads
2006 Louth beat Donegal in the Div2 league final 2007 Donegal won Div1 league final Since then Donegal have won 2 in a row in Ulster and in 2012 won Sam What happened to Louth??? Had a great chance to win Leinster and could not do it
I think Jim will take Div2 serious , we will probably win Div 2, I think we have a better team than Meath Galway or Down and I don't think Monaghan will beat us again like this year. Since 1992 Donegal has been as successful as Down, Galway and Meath as we have won 2All Ire. Also don't forget Donegal have a very good centre half forward who has not been involved with the County since Jim took over and he is now in the panel. If he commits he will be a massive asset and another young player, Hugh mcFadden could also be a big addition to the panel. I don't think Donegals panel is as weak as what people say. Also talk about the standard in Div 2 don't forget that 2 teams at present in Div1 will be in Div2 this time next year. They could be anybody and I mean this,,, could be Kerry or Mayo or Cork or even Dublin

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 18/10/2013 21:37:10    1503067

The better system. Yes Donegal. But man for man Donegal do not have great footballers. Donegal could not do what Dublin Kerry cork mayo galway Meath did this year and play football the way it was intended ( out score opposition).
The parking the bus will work to a extent. But when counties decide to go in different direction then it can fall apart. The excuses here is ridicules. Injured players blah blah blah. Every county has same. Football is now a game of 20 and you need another 5 who would be easily capable of starting. This is a example of meaths short comings this year. Had 15 as good as Dublin (well gave as good) when subs were needed we had nobody Dublin had guys that would be starting in any other team. Tbh if you have not got that strength in dept you win nothing.
My fancy for div 2 is Monaghan. With a Almighty scrap for second between Donegal Meath laois galway and down. If Meath take it seriously (for a change ) I think we might just sneak it. But if not we could be in relegation fight. It will be fun. But to say Donegal are better than the rest of us is just plain lies.
Hon the Royal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/10/2013 16:02:02    1503178

It's not plain lies to say Donegal is better than the rest, they were the best team last summer 2012 , Meath, Galway or Monaghan were no way near them Same players this time around with a few new fellows and looking forward to a very good 2014 with Donegal and on a lighter note Tir Chonnaill gales to finish the year in style, win the London championship

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 19/10/2013 18:15:50    1503233

Looking at the fixtures lads what 2 teams do ye fancy to be promoted from 2 AND what 2 teams do ye fancy for relegation from 1?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/10/2013 21:19:10    1503305

Donegal to win Div 2 and Down to get promoted. In Div 1 Westmeath and one of Kerry/Kildare to go into Div 2 It could surprise people who might struggle in Div 1 this season but one team I think who might do well in Div 1 are Derry while Dublin might not perform as might be expected of them.
How the ref,s apply the Black card will have a big bearing on most games and if teams don't do their homework on fouling and tackling. It could them dearly it will be very interesting to see the first series of games played and how things evolve.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 19/10/2013 21:55:57    1503320

I agree with your predictions Sam, I think we might struggle a bit in div 1 again but if it helps us find a few more players I don't really mind, it's all about the championship as far as I'm concerned .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 20/10/2013 13:24:45    1503385

The league is our Methadone!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 20/10/2013 13:29:45    1503386

Promotion is Monaghan's best team in division.
Second spot is harder to call with Donegal Meath laois galway all in with shout but all could easily end up in relegation fight too. But I'll call relegated as armagh and one of Louth or Donegal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/10/2013 14:27:01    1503404

DONEGAL

......the one swallow that made the summer 2012..

Be lucky to come out of ulster with a reputation intact.

The league means nothing in that regard. Division 2 is a tough grouping

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 20/10/2013 17:58:18    1503469

If Donegal are relegated from Div 2 I will forget about football next year. I predict we will win our first two games ( both are away I think) which will set us up nicely for the run in and promotion
Forget about what happened this summer but I predict we will be the outstanding team in Div 2 I think J McG will do his homework on this black card issue and the team will respond accordingly
The fouling and pulling which we saw towards the end of the A I final this year won't be allowed or it should not be if the Refs apply the Black card properly
Question::::: If you get a black card in the league and then get one in the Championship do you miss the next game. I'm not quite sure but I think if you get 2 Black cards you are gone for the next game In other words will a Black card picked up in the league have any bearings on the championship?? Also getting relegated from Div 1 is by no means the end of the world:: Cork came back up a few years ago and won Sam , likewise Donegal in 2011 and won Sam in 2012. Getting relegated from Div 2to Div 3 is a different matter and I would think MeathCavan and Monaghan would know all about that, especially Meath, who were All Irl champions a few years ago But all we can do is dream over the winter months and only one from a small group can won SAM But Donegal won't go DOWN to Div 3

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 20/10/2013 18:22:07    1503475

I don't know much bout the black card Sam, but that'l be interesting if it's true.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 20/10/2013 20:34:08    1503548

"But man for man Donegal do not have great footballers."

Are you still on a wind up or do you genuinely believe that? Your great cause célèbre Graham Reilly hardly got a kick in the games that mattered for Meath last year. On the other hand, in 2012 those not so great footballers Michael Murphy and Colm McFadden more or less decided the destiny of Sam Maguire between themselves against Mayo.

Karl Lacey is a 4 time All Star and last year's footballer of the year. Neil McGee is a double All Star winner. Frank McGlynn was running the length of the field and scoring points off his weaker foot in last year's AI semi final. In the same match Neil Gallagher gave the best display of high fielding I've seen in Croke Park in years.

We'll see who the great footballers are next spring when Meath come up here.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 21/10/2013 13:45:04    1503831

19/10/2013 16:02:02
royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 4968

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Donegal could not do what Dublin Kerry cork mayo galway Meath did this year and play football the way it was intended ( out score opposition).
Have you checked some of the scoring by Donegal in 2012? 1-16,2-13,2-18,2-11 they were doing more than parking the bus or maybe you are thinking of 2011?

My fancy for div 2 is Monaghan. If Meath take it seriously (for a change ) I think we might just sneak it.

Monaghan only finished a point ahead of Roscommon,Fermanagh in div 3 with a total of 10 points its unlikely them or Meath (serious or not) will get promoted.

Mr_Pundit (UK) - Posts: 677 - 21/10/2013 18:02:53    1504038

Mr pundit . I have seen Monaghan 3 time over last 2 Years and they impressed me on all occasions. Had a sneaky bet on them for ulster this year. And while I'd love for Meath to go up. I think the team that will win it is Monaghan. I much prefer our chances v Donegal than I do Monaghan.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/10/2013 18:28:35    1504053

Monaghan are great at home i think its 2011 since they lost a game however on there travels they are poor and can get beaten by any team. That type of inconsistent form won't be good enough for promotion in div 2.

Mr_Pundit (UK) - Posts: 677 - 21/10/2013 19:29:39    1504086

Of course Donegal will take it seriously, and hi get back to div1, and hopefully challange Ulster, All Ireland 2014

mchugh11 (Donegal) - Posts: 242 - 21/10/2013 19:39:12    1504095

royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 4981

1503178 The better system. Yes Donegal. But man for man Donegal do not have great footballers. Donegal could not do what Dublin Kerry cork mayo galway Meath did this year and play football the way it was intended ( out score opposition).
The parking the bus will work to a extent. But when counties decide to go in different direction then it can fall apart. The excuses here is ridicules. Injured players blah blah blah. Every county has same. Football is now a game of 20 and you need another 5 who would be easily capable of starting. This is a example of meaths short comings this year. Had 15 as good as Dublin (well gave as good) when subs were needed we had nobody Dublin had guys that would be starting in any other team. Tbh if you have not got that strength in dept you win nothing.
My fancy for div 2 is Monaghan. With a Almighty scrap for second between Donegal Meath laois galway and down. If Meath take it seriously (for a change ) I think we might just sneak it. But if not we could be in relegation fight. It will be fun. But to say Donegal are better than the rest of us is just plain lies.
Hon the Royal.

I disagree with your points on Donegal. Their 2011 defensive system left them open to criticism from all quarters, with an Improved version winning All Ireland in 2012 and winning them more enemies among supporters of counties who had been more successful than Donegal to date.

Donegal do produce great footballers, and I am baffled that you could say otherwise. Donegal have contested 12 out of the last 24 Ulster Championship final's, a provincial championship that has been considered the toughest or most competitive for much of the past 25 years. Granted they only won 4 of those final's, but contesting the final so often shows a certain level of consistancy.

As for playing football the way it was Intended, that statement is often attributed to teams who have no rite to it. Gaelic football is definitely a sport where a manager or team will get slated for implementing better tactics or thinking outside the box.
It is still a competitive team sport, where each team has 15 players on the field and the better most effective Team wins.

"Man to man" is all about the Individuals, rather than the collective effort.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 24/10/2013 09:26:33    1505296

Time will tell

Arover1 (Louth) - Posts: 72 - 03/01/2014 21:48:28    1527559