Are Rte going to have cian ward on the day meath play and get beat???
Alot of people say we should have present day players on panel, fair enough but when a player has been dropped that player may havr a axe to grind.
Think sg are trying to get the figures up by having a pop at management etc, first brolly now O'Hara

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/05/2013 10:21:45    1392187

I don't see any issue whatsoever in what he said. People are hyping this up and blowing it all out of proportion. Look, he was asked why he wasn't in London yesterday, and he gave his reasons, training four nights a week in November at his age, combined with work committments didn't suit him. Kevin Walsh made it clear to him that he could not join the squad in January as he was persisting with the lads who were there from day one.

Really don't see an issue here, whats the big deal?

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 27/05/2013 10:31:53    1392205

is o hara gunning for the job himself

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 27/05/2013 10:40:06    1392220

It was like a boxer punching the head off a lad with his hands and legs tied - cowardly act.

He obviously has personal issues with Walshe and he would not be the first very senior member of a County panel to think he knows how things should be done!

Take on the job and show us how to do it..

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 27/05/2013 11:20:26    1392265

Listened to the interview again :

- Des Cahill asked him why he wasn't there
- O'Hara shirked the answer a little bit - congratulated London, high Sligo hopes disappointed......
- Des Cahill then pressed him again but "why weren't you there"

I'd say Cahill was sorry he asked:-

- O'Hara said he could commit to January 1st not Novemeber 1st - annoyed that Walsh hadn't even committed to Sligo job at that stage, plus his age, work etc. Walsh said he was sticking to the "November panel" but then opened panel (correctly) to Kilcullen (from Mayo) but was playing club football on Saturday! Indicating big decisions have back-fired the last few years, and was losing the players.

Players worked hard and deserved better training and better tactical awareness - that hasn't come. He said KW "has a lot to answer for". Thinks he should go, but said lots of problems at co. board level.

Face on Spillane!!!

It's not personal - it was all about the performance "on the job". Fair enough. Hope it doesn't stop Cahill asking the big questions.

Solo_Run (Leitrim) - Posts: 209 - 27/05/2013 11:38:16    1392284

O'Hara has a short memory. Walsh brought sligo a connaught title under his watch.

I think it was a caseof O'Hara just been very bitter.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 27/05/2013 12:30:53    1392364

O Hara completely out of line, end of.

StJude (Roscommon) - Posts: 87 - 27/05/2013 12:45:52    1392381

Whether O'Hara's rant had merit or not this was not the place to air his grievances. He is being employed by RTE to provide an objective opinion on matches and provide an analyses. O'Hara used his air time to rant about the way he was treated by Walsh and what he didn't like about the manager. Firstly I understand that at his age training flat out is difficult but either you commit to the panel or you don't, if training starts in November whether you agree with it or not, you train. No man is bigger than the team and Eamonn O'Hara certainly isn't. How can Walsh justify to the lads training in November O'Hara strolling in 2 months later because he didn't want to train. Thought it was a nonsensical attack at the manager which over shadowed a great win for London on the Sunday game, O'Hara didn't analyse the match, where London won it or how Sligo lost it. As for RTE's decision to make him a pundit, O'Hara's prediction for the Connacht Championship: I think Sligo will be in the Connacht final and I don't think it'll be Mayo they will play, Galway will catch them cold. How'd that work out for ya Eamonn?

the_gatekeeper (Mayo) - Posts: 82 - 27/05/2013 12:49:00    1392384

gotmilk
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 1380

1392364
O'Hara has a short memory. Walsh brought sligo a connaught title under his watch.

No he didn't. Tommy Breheny was the manager when Sligo last won Connacht.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 27/05/2013 12:50:35    1392385

reply to gotmilk fermanagh - your memory isnt great either. It was under Tommy Brehony that Sligo won Connacht in '07

judemannion (None) - Posts: 44 - 27/05/2013 12:54:15    1392398

Solo_Run
County: Leitrim
Posts: 83

1392157 Couple of points........

(1)Thought O'Hara was right, previosu poster said it was a "personal attack", it was not...he didn't criticise Kevin Walsh, as a man, in any way. He criticised his approach and his management record and methods in recenet years. O'Hara is perfectly entitled to do so, Walsh must expect scrutiny in a what could be considered a public role. Walsh for his part is fully entitled to respond.

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Agree completely, the way people were going on you would have thought that O' Hara was just attacking Walsh and singling him out, which he didn't. The man has given 19 years of service to Sligo GAA, if what he said is true about the poor management and county council then he deserves to be mad about it.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 27/05/2013 12:55:53    1392401

gotmilk
County: Fermanagh
Posts: 1380

1392364 O'Hara has a short memory. Walsh brought sligo a connaught title under his watch.

I think it was a caseof O'Hara just been very bitter.

When did Walsh bring Sligo a Connacht title?

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 27/05/2013 12:56:25    1392403

I thought he did in his first year. I got that one wrong. I thought they won in 2010.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 27/05/2013 12:58:48    1392407

Walsh inherited a strong Sligo team who were Connacht champions at the time, that team is definitely good enough to challenge for provincial titles - Donovan, Harrison, Marren, Kelly (before injuries) and O' Hara (before retirement) are all very good footballers and there are others as well, Sligo football need a change in management.

CaisleanCnucha (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 27/05/2013 13:02:22    1392413

It's hard to disagree with Oisin McConville's comment this morning on RTE that O'Hara has an axe to grind. This is the man who a couple of weeks ago announced he was ready to return, then announced his retirement a few days later. Yes it took real courage for O'Hara to use The Sunday Game to vent his spleen. Not a word from him last year about poor quality training and management when Sligo beat Galway and gave Mayo a good game of it in the Connacht final.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 860 - 27/05/2013 13:04:46    1392416

The Gatekeeper - The issue he was highlighting was the hypocrisy and double standards. Eamonn O'Hara, Johnny Davey, Noel Maguire and David Rooney not able to give the committment in Nov but then Kilcullen brought in Feb and then him preferring to play for his club a few hours prior to the London game. Would that happen in any other county - i think not. One rule for Kilcullen and another rule for the lads dropped.

Anto (Sligo) - Posts: 345 - 27/05/2013 13:08:49    1392419

I don't think he was out of line. He obviously cares and hates the way the county team are being treated. My main point would be the amount of training sessions. 4 a week since November. That's tantamount to abuse to amateur players these days. The players who want to play are probably keeping schtum in order to keep playing with the team and are too scared to speak out. I'd imagine that there are mutterings behind the scenes with players making these huge sacrifices. Inter-county players make sacrifices as it is, we all know this, but 4 a week since November!!! They are obviously over-trained. They looked very poor against London (well done to them by the way). Why do managers/coaches think that flogging players around this much is ideal preparation for the championship. Also makes a mockery of the ban on winter training, we know they all do it, but I didn't think it was to this extent. Something needs to be done, either fines or bans.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2385 - 27/05/2013 13:09:04    1392421

Anto

My main argument is that this was not the medium for O'Hara to vent his anger. He provided no analysis of the match, yes he had the inside track on the Sligo set up, but used it from his view point. Clearly not happy, primarily by the way he was treated, seized the opportunity to put the boot into the management on national TV. I thought it was poor form from a man so long affiliated with the Sligo team. Kilcullen is a separate issue, him opting to play club over (adopted) county is his call, managers make decisions and have to stand by them. He opted to take Kilcullen in, it didn't work so far, but O'Hara's vendetta was more personal than looking out for the Sligo team. If he has issues let him take it up with management, the county board and the necessary parties. The Sunday Game was no place for him to slate the whole county set up, he's there to provide an objective view on the match first and foremost, which he didn't do.

the_gatekeeper (Mayo) - Posts: 82 - 27/05/2013 13:27:48    1392448

O Hara actually had some good analysis last night so beginning to look better as a pundit.

However the Sligo Manager should now definitely be given just as long on the same programme to give his side of the argument.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 27/05/2013 13:38:00    1392462

Dont agree with his rant re Walshe but thought he gave insightful analysis on other games. Showed up Spillane who thinks the same old guff will do. The footballers who put in so much effort to prepare for the championship deserve better than this over the blanket nonsense. Viewers are more discerning and wont take his obvious lack of preparation.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 27/05/2013 13:53:22    1392484