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Seanie Johnston sitting on the Kildare bench

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He means that Coill Dubh are a seperate club is all. And sure SJ may as well do that, it's not like we can sink any lower as far as this thing goes.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 25/05/2012 10:41:13    1180177

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Wouldn't surprise me if Coill Dubh refused. Why should they play a Cavan man in a championship match (even as a sub) ahead of lads that grew up in the club and trained all winter. Has he ever even played hurling? I doubt this saga is over yet.

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 25/05/2012 10:46:10    1180184

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jesus at this stage just let him play for anyone in the Kildare championship, lock this thread down and move on. The bulk of this attention is aimed at the wrong individual, other individuals in this drama should be more analyzed for their role in this.

bluedubstar (Dublin) - Posts: 835 - 25/05/2012 10:50:39    1180185

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so now he has to play club hurling to play football for kildare?

would he not have been better off doing that in the first place then - he wouldn't have needed any transfer because he wasn't attached to any hurling club in cavan.

plenty of players play football for 1 club and hurling for another, even in a different county (granted not a county 60 miles away)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 25/05/2012 10:53:54    1180189

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Not quite over yet

Johnston facing one final hurdle before Lilywhites green light
By John Fogarty
Friday, May 25, 2012
Seánie Johnston's transfer saga is not yet at an end, despite reports to the contrary yesterday.
The Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) have yet to grant the Cavan native's request to move to St Kevin's in his attempt to line out for Kildare in this year's Championship.

The Central Appeals Committee (CAC) sent the case back to the CCCC. The CAC upheld Johnston's appeal on Wednesday night against the CCCC's decision to refuse it last week.

Five months after his original request and two months since his second application, the CAC ruled neither Cavan Gaels nor the Cavan County Committee had objected to the switch within the 10-day time limit outlined in the GAA's Official Guide. It is understood the characterisation of what constituted an objection was the reason why Johnston's case was with the CCCC so long.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 25/05/2012 11:08:16    1180205

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no we all know the reason it was with the cccc so long was to delay the decision long enough so SJ couldnt line out for st .kevins if neither cavan gaels or cavan county board objected the resubmitted transfer should of gone threw automatically thats the procedure if neither the home club or county board object within a 10 day period so we were hearing this crack of oh cavan gaels are asked up to a meeting next week and they not asked up at all we are not meeting until the following monday week on week excuses upon excuses and then a week after st kevins play round 1 it comes out that the transfer should of went automatically threw by the cac.

no.1 why did it go back to the cccc if that was the case
no.2 why on earth did it take two months to make a decision.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 25/05/2012 13:25:23    1180314

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Ok my last post on this subject, what are Cavan supporters feelings towards Johnston and this whole transfer saga??? Cause if it was a Dublin player he wouldn't be let back into the city.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 25/05/2012 14:04:05    1180355

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clondalkindub I think you'll find if it ever happens where Dublin might be involved you'd be amazed how powerless you are. It's all very well saying that 'he wouldn't be allowed back into the city' or 'we wouldn't stand for that in our county', etc.... but if I've learned one thing in this whole thing that when this sort of thing starts there's very little a supporter can do to have any effect on proceedings either way.

doublehop (Kildare) - Posts: 4172 - 25/05/2012 14:21:18    1180370

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clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 1993

1180355 Ok my last post on this subject, what are Cavan supporters feelings towards Johnston and this whole transfer saga??? Cause if it was a Dublin player he wouldn't be let back into the city.

He wouldn't be let back into the city? Are you in the A-Team or something?

sedico (Kildare) - Posts: 1682 - 25/05/2012 14:42:48    1180391

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clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 1993

Check out the papers today. I'm not making it up.


Ah yeah sure haven't the papers always been 100% spot on with any stories they've produced over the last few months regarding this transfer...

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 25/05/2012 14:48:52    1180397

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clondalkindub
County: Dublin
Posts: 1993

1180355 Ok my last post on this subject, what are Cavan supporters feelings towards Johnston and this whole transfer saga??? Cause if it was a Dublin player he wouldn't be let back into the city.


I can't see him playing for Cavan again, nor would I or most fans want him too.

Sergeant_Slash (Cavan) - Posts: 2182 - 25/05/2012 14:50:00    1180402

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People over react a bit much. He isn't part of some terrorist organisation, he just wants to continue playing county football. Hadn't the chance to do that with Cavan since he was let go and decided to link up with Kildare as he had already known some of the players and management from college football. People saying it will lead to a watershed moment are deluded. Very few county players like Johnston would get dropped in October. 5 of the other players who were dropped with Johnston were never called back either under Val Andrews. Johnston was the best forward in Cavan so why wouldn't he want to still play county football.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 25/05/2012 15:12:57    1180426

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whether seanie's attitude needed improving, or whatever val andrews thought he needed to do to get the best out of him, dropping him like he did certainly wasn't the way to go about things.

im 100% sure that when val made the call, he intended to be naming seanie in the cavan line up for the first round of the ulster championship and that he would be hailed as having made an ingenious decision if somehow seanie inspired a cavan victory.

it backfired in spectacular fashion for val.

as for seanie, i think he used this as somewhat of an excuse to seek a transfer hoping that people would empathize with the situation he was left facing, but we in cavan can see past that. he should have showed his willingness to fight for his place, but it seems to me he thought he was too good for that.

he will never play for cavan again and rightly so.

also, he will not have it all his own way with mcgeeney and kildare.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 25/05/2012 16:36:41    1180515

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Hopefully he will not take that great game that is hurling and pick up a hurl.

That would be an insult to the guys who play the greatest game there is.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 25/05/2012 17:02:42    1180553

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SJ will from what i hear be teaching in co.kildare next year and will be playing for kildare now, look a line needs to be drawn under this do people not agree it has been going on long enough there was lads calling for this thread to be closed because the saga was been dragged out for so long
now a decision has finally been made now whether seanie gets to play for kildare this year or next we may just let him and kildare get on with it and concentrate on the championship.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 25/05/2012 17:11:37    1180563

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lilywhitemagic.

You can leave the discussion any time you like. Its not your ball so you can't bring it home with you. Lads will discuss what they please

rath_togh (Meath) - Posts: 740 - 25/05/2012 18:22:21    1180599

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One thing is puzzling me. If the only criteria for granting a transfer is that neither his club or county board object then .... anyone can get a transfer whenever they want regardless of where they are living or working. all it needs for the transfer to go through is that there are no objections. hey but the cccc didn't grant the transfer because they thought it was against the ethos of the GAA... so who grants the transfer ? is it the CCCC or the CAC. I think its the CCCC so that ruling by the CAC is not worth a fiddlers dram. unless they can force the cccc to change their mind.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 25/05/2012 19:14:56    1180615

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rathog if you look back at all the lads that said the saga was getting 'boring' at this stage and complaining about it been dragged out did you say the same to them?

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 25/05/2012 20:23:45    1180649

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whats the odds on him getting injured playing hurling haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/05/2012 09:51:51    1180729

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Aindreas
County: Wexford
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have just texted a lot of my football friends here in south east, 4 counties, not one out of them had a good thing to say about kildare and johnson they def have lost a lot of support over this, not that it will bother them i know if they win "if" they win

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Oh no! We were counting in the support of Wexford fans to will the lads over the line

Count_Awesome (Kildare) - Posts: 736 - 26/05/2012 10:16:24    1180741

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