Just glad to get out of there yesterday with the win. We can look forward to a final against Kerry now.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 29/08/2011 13:34:24    1021701

Donegal set out to destroy football yesterday and I'm only delighted they failed, fair play to the Dubs for standing up and coming through.......looking forward to seeing ye soon.

Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 29/08/2011 13:52:31    1021729

Donegal set out to destroy football yesterday and I'm only delighted they failed, fair play to the Dubs for standing up and coming through.......looking forward to seeing ye soon.

I think you'll find Donegal set out to win yesterday's game.

Now back in your pen with the rest of the sheep who live off Pat Spillane's every word!

Destroy football? Hahaha.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 29/08/2011 13:56:32    1021738

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Donegal set out to destroy football yesterday and I'm only delighted they failed, fair play to the Dubs for standing up and coming through.......looking forward to seeing ye soon.

I think you'll find Donegal set out to win yesterday's game.

Now back in your pen with the rest of the sheep who live off Pat Spillane's every word!

Destroy football? Hahaha.


Explain how they set out to win Loyal??? To win a game you must outscore the opposition.....I'm fairly certain of that. Donegal did not set out to do that.......yesterday was an utter abomination, instrumented by Donegal.

And also, I can't stand Spillane, I'm quite able to form my own opinion.

Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 29/08/2011 14:07:26    1021753

Baa baa

keepherlow (Tyrone) - Posts: 127 - 29/08/2011 14:14:17    1021769

That makes two of us.

Score more / concede less - same thing really. Donegal do what they do with great effect. Had they not missed so many frees/chances in the first half, they may have won. Had McFadden buried the goal chance. Had they dealt with the Man of the Match Brogan a bit better. It's not as if they were a million miles from winning the game as you appear to imply. They only just lost.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 29/08/2011 14:17:51    1021774

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That makes two of us.

Score more / concede less - same thing really. Donegal do what they do with great effect. Had they not missed so many frees/chances in the first half, they may have won. Had McFadden buried the goal chance. Had they dealt with the Man of the Match Brogan a bit better. It's not as if they were a million miles from winning the game as you appear to imply. They only just lost.


No, far from it Loyal....you are correct, they could have and possibly should have won. But my point is that the gameplan they implemented will not encourage young lads to take up the game. Would you agree or disagree?

Possibly, if Donegal were a bit braver in the second half and attacked Dublin, the result may have been different. But they didn't and I find it difficult to give them any credit for it.

Also, Karl Lacey was a huge loss to them.

Cute_Kerry_Hoor (Kerry) - Posts: 2518 - 29/08/2011 14:28:57    1021789

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That makes two of us.

Score more / concede less - same thing really. Donegal do what they do with great effect. Had they not missed so many frees/chances in the first half, they may have won. Had McFadden buried the goal chance. Had they dealt with the Man of the Match Brogan a bit better. It's not as if they were a million miles from winning the game as you appear to imply. They only just lost.

Exactly, you worded what i have been trying to say all day, they could of very easily of won and nobody could tell Donegal there tactics were wrong as they could of just said " but we won".

51longago (Mayo) - Posts: 2981 - 29/08/2011 14:30:34    1021793

You guys are away with the fairies. Evil? Destroying? Abominations? They're footballers, not superhero villians!

Yes, Donegal's style of play is horrible to watch and makes for a bad game but it's the only way they can defeat teams that are better than them. And their results this year are admirable.

But how is this different than say, Jack Charlton's tactics with the soccer team all those years ago when the whole country jumped on the Soccer bandwagon & we all thought it was great. He didn't play sweeping, attacking flowing football, he had 7 of the 11 players at the backs holding off the opposition while they just hoofed the ball over the midfield down to the forwards - it was ugly, boggerish, no flair in at all, but he got us to a European championship & 2 World cups, didn't he? And the Irish still thank the man for it today

Point is, of course it was a terrible semi final yesterday, there is a much better final in prospect now that the Dubs are through, but Donegal have achieved an awful lot with limited resources with this ugly, holed up style of play.

You gotta do whatcha gotta do and they did it to the best of their ability and they're out of the Championship now so be happy and look forward to the final, instead of bullin' on about evil and destruction, ye make them sound like Nazis or Al-Qaeda.

gigoer (Wexford) - Posts: 1998 - 29/08/2011 14:35:44    1021808

Donegal have shown they can park the bus in front of the goal and stop the opposition from scoring regular scores! But they have to learn how to turn defense into attack, they were abysmal at this yesterday. 6 points in a little over 70 minutes is about as bad as it gets!

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 29/08/2011 15:06:18    1021862

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gig its important to note you said about jack charlton as its kind of simliar to donegal alright defense can only get you so far you have to attack at some stage to win ireland never won anything under him its al well and good playing like donegal did yesterday when your two or 3 points up but when you go behind is when that system becomes useless as you have to actualy be in the oposite teams half to score

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/08/2011 15:19:06    1021898

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Donegal scored 4 points from play yesterday.... dublin scored a measley two... go figure...

Break_er (Donegal) - Posts: 798 - 29/08/2011 15:21:30    1021902

Eight points is hardly much better PJ, is it?

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 29/08/2011 15:21:46    1021904

By the way, the score from play was: Donegal 0-4, Dublin 0-2.

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 29/08/2011 15:22:31    1021906

gig its important to note you said about jack charlton as its kind of simliar to donegal alright defense can only get you so far you have to attack at some stage to win ireland never won anything under him its al well and good playing like donegal did yesterday when your two or 3 points up but when you go behind is when that system becomes useless as you have to actualy be in the oposite teams half to score

Surprisingly, your posts until now have made reasonable sense.

Anyway, Dublin were three points behind and as you have said elsewhere they were patient, held their nerve and all that. They played just as Donegal did in the first half - invited the other team onto them but stopped them at the '45. They waited and waited and when the chances came, they took them. Would you agree?

So I don't think the system is completely useless if you're behind. If you panic, it'll probably be useless but if you do what Dublin did, it'll probably work to perfection!

Loyal2TheRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 4522 - 29/08/2011 15:26:34    1021917

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By the way, the score from play was: Donegal 0-4, Dublin 0-2

the score at full time was dublin 0-08 v 0-06 donegal thats all the matters.
also when you have 14 men inside your 45 yard line its kind of hard to get a decent shot from play against that

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/08/2011 15:29:41    1021924

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1021906 By the way, the score from play was: Donegal 0-4, Dublin 0-2. Loyal2TheRoyal
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Dublins scores from free kicks wouldve been scores from play if it wasnt for Donegals persistent fouling!

PJ (None) - Posts: 2288 - 29/08/2011 15:41:53    1021946

It was the strangest game i think I have ever seen. Conventional midfeilding was non existent. Both teams conceeded possession from short kickouts and allowed the opposition into their half before isolating/surrounding and dispossessing the ball carrier. I don't know if it was tiredness or lack of concentration/nerves but Donegal gave a huge amount of silly ball away. Many led directly to Dublin frees and scores. Experienced players like Kevin Cassidy dropping a ball that led to Connollly's freekick/sending off.
The last ten minutes was a disaaster for Donegal. Surely Mc Guinness realised that he needed to throw caution to the win and put in an extra attacker or two to at least have a chance of scoring, or maybe his system is so inflexible that this is impossible.
Saying that Had Mc Fadden buried that goal chance, Dublin would have had a mountain to climb and most likely would not have come back.
Just very dissappointed for Donegal to lose like that when they had the forwards to cause Dublin trouble. Six points is just not good enough.
As for Dublin its hard to knwo what sort of performance we will get against Kerry. The Kerry defence are unlikely to be as generous as Tyrone's and they play a more expansive attacking game than Donegal, that is they usually have more than one forward in the oppostions half at any one time!
A fully fit Paul Galvin will be the key in my opinion and his presence might be just enough to tip the game in Kerry's favour, but please let it be a better game than yesterday.

neverafree (Down) - Posts: 456 - 29/08/2011 15:44:07    1021950

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But how is this different than say, Jack Charlton's tactics with the soccer team all those years ago when the whole country jumped on the Soccer bandwagon & we all thought it was great. He didn't play sweeping, attacking flowing football, he had 7 of the 11 players at the backs holding off the opposition while they just hoofed the ball over the midfield down to the forwards - it was ugly, boggerish, no flair in at all, but he got us to a European championship & 2 World cups, didn't he? And the Irish still thank the man for it today

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That;s why I don't watch the sacar.
You can't blame Donegal for doing everything to win games. They're entitled to do that and if it wins them games then fair play to them.
Personally I hate their "style" of fotbball and don't want to watch another game like that ever.
But I do appreciate Donegal's efforts and I can honestly say that I think Kerry would have had more problems defeating Donegal then Dublin.

flemishgael (Kerry) - Posts: 67 - 29/08/2011 15:50:49    1021958

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Surprisingly, your posts until now have made reasonable sense.

Anyway, Dublin were three points behind and as you have said elsewhere they were patient, held their nerve and all that. They played just as Donegal did in the first half - invited the other team onto them but stopped them at the '45. They waited and waited and when the chances came, they took them. Would you agree?

So I don't think the system is completely useless if you're behind. If you panic, it'll probably be useless but if you do what Dublin did, it'll probably work to perfection!

il let your first line go in one ear and out the other as your from meath and maybe a bit bitter.
dont agree with you by saying dublin played just as donegal did in the first half.i was at the match and im not sure if the cameras realy showed how much donegal had back, donegal had at all times in that first 14 men in there own half and sometimes 15 men when dublin had possesion where as dublin throught the game had mostly 3 men in defense,the dublin half back line came back for dublins kick outs and strolled up to half way with it where as dublin tackled donegal in there own half of the field when they were coming out with the ball.
yes they were patient but patient in not losing the head coz the scores werent coming but they were not playing the same style as donegals slow lateral patient build up,dublin tried to move the ball from defense to attack where as donegal only wanted to play around the middle of the field with it.
there two seperate systems of play donegals doesnt work when your behind as is evidence yesterday they were quit content to only socre 6 points and then try not let dublin socre more then two for the last 30 minutes and when dublin went in front they had no answer.
where as dublin system is all about turning the ball over and attcking with kick passing or pace which works if your accurate

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 29/08/2011 16:03:34    1021979