The offical Response by our GAA Club on behalf of people from the parishes of both Milltown Castlemaine http://www.kerryman.ie/news/milltowncastlemaine-gaa-club-statement-regarding-pitch-issue-1702295.html A few reponses. REDMIST, it actually is an appropriate name. Hopefully the statment clears matters up. Im from Castlemaine, and I dont see Milltown taking over the pitch. The club is Milltown Castlemaine and may I assert the name Castlemaine is in this club. We are getting a facility to improve the club, improve the community and if you read the statement it clarifys it. Trustees, if you and the community had a problem ith Milltown CASTLEMAINE GAA owning it why now bring it up. Also no one can claim they did not know as they required Miltown CASTLEMAINE to sign off on grants as the owners of the land. People are doubting the ownership please refer to statement of document number and check it out in Tralee Council office and it clarifies it. Hw were they got? Im not of the knowledge or probably born when this happened and not going to make assumptions. There is only a couple of GAA Club members (actual club members) and players who are opposed to it. We know who they are without bringing there names here. Majority Castlemaine players are for it overwheminly. How one organisation elects and selects trustees is there own democratic right, but REdmist I know the church parish boundaries and whole Keel can take Castlemaine players Im from around here, but the suggestion Castlemaine people are against it is wrong. Some are for it some against it. As for developers by someone, it could be farther from the truth, it is someone outside the county so no one can question it. Now I incorrectly called Keel a novice club, I was incorrect. We never played Keel in Intermediate so I wouldnt be looking out for them. And Keel may be 2nd most successful club in Mid Kerry fair play was supposed to have great team in the 60s no disputing. As for Milltown CASTLEMAINE club being the new Laune Rangers Im afrad we have a bit to go. We are putting a huge facility in place for the whole community. Milltown CASTLEMAINE GAA showing there true colours. Well 2 points on this. We the club were not invited. Dialogue must take place between 2 parties Action Group and Milltown Castlemaine GAA club, not in an open forum where in fairness I gave up when I heard the lady saying Croke Park will have to change Rule 42 for Castlemaine Soccer. Also when you Castlemaine FC and Keel GAA members who answered questions on behalf of f there club a meeting like that would be two fragmented and without an arbitrator would be pointless. REMEMBER IT IS MILLTOWN CASTLEMAINE MAY I REITERATE CASTLEMAINE AGAIN. GO RAIBH MILE MAITH AGAT

milltownsupport (Kerry) - Posts: 85 - 08/04/2009 21:12:07    252445

Milltown Castlemaine answering all the rumours


http://www.kerryman.ie/news/milltowncastlemaine-gaa-club-statement-regarding-pitch-issue-1702295.html

milltownsupport (Kerry) - Posts: 85 - 08/04/2009 21:36:23    252469

who wrote the statment on behalf of miltown/castlemaine there was no name written in the kerryman...... this person is geat at writing fiction!!

communityspirit (Kerry) - Posts: 4 - 08/04/2009 23:51:27    252691

are all you's going on this to just stir up support or speak GAA

Duffy89 (Wexford) - Posts: 3320 - 09/04/2009 00:07:46    252716

Seems abit childish to me, "if we can't use it, no-one can"

HokeyPokey (Tyrone) - Posts: 1744 - 09/04/2009 01:08:15    252756

3inarow08 I do know what i am talking about because I can read. the club issued a statement and the title deeds are in their name so it in fact seems that you do not know what you are talking about. Go to Tralee and check it out then come back and let us all know. Typical underhand soccer people always trying to steal GAA property.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 09/04/2009 09:30:41    252806

Milltownsupport I agree with you about a number of things such as a possible independent arbitrator coming in as a neutral. I am also very aware that Castlemaine players play with Milltown, there is no need to reiterate it. Look the issue here is about ownership and that comes down to trustees and how they were put into place. May I point out that trustees are caretakers of a pitch, not owners. The pitch was left to the PEOPLE of CASTLEMAINE in 1936 in the care of 3 GAA men. It was to be looked after for the people of the village by them which it has been for the past 70 years. It is not until one prominent member died that Milltown seemed to gain ownership because he never allowed it to happen when alive. It was said that this individual was not an official trustee however he was one of the signatories in the Field's bank account. I wonder where that money is gone to? Forget the hiding behind the County board and the GAA this comes down to RIGHTFUL ownership. Deeds may be one thing but how they were gotten is another issue. Just because Castlemaine play with Milltown please stop assuming that you have the backing of most Castlemaine people. They have clearly shown that they do not support Milltown's actions. Your club has also shown its true colours with its total lack of respect for your Castlemaine members and players some of whom have helped to bring you success over the past few years. No wonder they are refusing to play at the moment. The question is should the views of the majority be ignored. I went to school in Castlemaine, am a member of the soccer club and socialise there but my opinion and that of my neighbours should be ignored because people in Milltown,Callinafercy or any other area want to come into our village to take a pitch they were never into in their lives? Some of your members wouldnt even now where the pitch is not to mind know anything that has ever gone on in there so dont come on here trying to convince people of land portfolio numbers and shoddy statements which hide the real details. Id like to see a solution but at the moment due to the lack of respect and dialogue coming from the GAA in general I cant see one coming.

RedMist (Kerry) - Posts: 9 - 09/04/2009 10:05:36    252845

Tom 1916 no offence to you my man but this is something you cant possibly know anything about unless youre from here. Even if you were it would still be confusing! This is about 70 years of history in a pitch that the GAA have had nothing to do with and are now surprised that what they are doing is being frowned upon. Are we not allowed to partake in other sports or have opinions on things contrary to the views of the GAA? It's a local issue and we wouldnt be fighting this proposed move if it were as straightforward as you make it seem. We are not idiots, we are all GAA members but this is a local issue with alot of things going on and alot that needs explaining.
Hope ye find replacements for Bellew and McGrane fairly soon so we can renew our rivalry!

RedMist (Kerry) - Posts: 9 - 09/04/2009 10:12:41    252853

Tom1916
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3inarow08 I do know what i am talking about because I can read. the club issued a statement and the title deeds are in their name so it in fact seems that you do not know what you are talking about. Go to Tralee and check it out then come back and let us all know. Typical underhand soccer people always trying to steal GAA property.
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No Tom, I don't believe you do.

Because you read what one side of the argument have said you believe them 100%? The title deeds are the issue. The GAA side are saying that they own them. The local community side are saying they don't.

As for your last statement - the vast majority of the soccer team play football for either Milltown/Castlemaine GAA or Keel GAA. The local community on one side of this argument are also members of the GAA. It has nothing to do with soccer (apart from the fact that a soccer team played on the community pitch as well as various other sports).

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 09/04/2009 11:51:26    252969

No problem redMist seems there might be a bit more to it alright. I just hope you all get the facilities you require. Pity about the boys retiring alright, it'll be a few year before we'll be able to compete with you'se so best of luck and don't be arguing with each other or you'll end up like your rebel neighbours ;)

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 09/04/2009 12:02:05    252987

The GAA shouldnt have ploughed the pitch (even if they were they were legally entitled to). Its just poor form and has divided a community.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 09/04/2009 12:10:46    253001

If it was ploughed up in the middle of the night, the early bird who gets the worm would have to be up very early that morning!

Fredthered (Donegal) - Posts: 1144 - 09/04/2009 13:25:32    253091

Would just like to post a conclusion to this matter. a year and six months has passed i believe from the arguement. Dont shoot me, but i travelled up to castlemaine to a watch a soccer match there and we were welcomed by a big sign saying " Castlemaine Community pitch". also their is a fine daycare centre there and a quailty gym too by the looks of it. 2 soccer goals and no sign of any footbal? so the GAA must not have owned the field unless castlemaine is the new croke park that is

Kenmrelad (Kerry) - Posts: 6 - 30/10/2010 15:32:04    806288