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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Finals should be in September.
Hopefully Jarlath will remind the accountants that they are our employees. Not event managers." When should club championships be played then? Have less intercounty games and have them in between county games like in the 90s? How are you going to sell that to a public greedy for more and more games?
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Replying To Viking66: "When should club championships be played then? Have less intercounty games and have them in between county games like in the 90s? How are you going to sell that to a public greedy for more and more games?" He probably doesn't care....
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Good man Jarlath.You are only in the job a few weeks and already you are showing leadership.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3686 - 16/04/2024 18:34:08
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Replying To Viking66: "When should club championships be played then? Have less intercounty games and have them in between county games like in the 90s? How are you going to sell that to a public greedy for more and more games?" A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7913 - 16/04/2024 18:38:32
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Replying To legendzxix: "A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later." County semi-finals and finals in December to February?
I hope this plan includes a budget for a roof over the country.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2065 - 16/04/2024 19:00:53
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Replying To legendzxix: "A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later." What about finding playable club pitches over the winter?
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 16/04/2024 19:17:09
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Replying To legendzxix: "A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later." Co Finals Christmas week?
Or New Years Eve?
Or mini blitz knock out club chsmpionships with 50% of Club players getting 1 game.
By the way Mr Burns isn't a dictator, and changes have to be voted in by Congress so over to Clubs to stop him.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1459 - 16/04/2024 20:10:24
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "It has reduced inter county to a sideshow in comparison to rival sports.
Starting championship at same time as couch potatoes and media are totally focused on English soccer, and ending it before it takes over again.
Then running it off as if it is an embarrassment to get over between hosting concerts, rugby matches, conferences and trying to pimp our stadiums off to UEFA..
Enough already!" 100% agree Barney, I've been saying it all along and getting abuse for saying it, they have the Championship destroyed and they need to take a serious look at some of the new rules introduced in recent years also, the forward mark is nonsense imo.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2777 - 16/04/2024 20:10:33
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Replying To legendzxix: "A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later." Ah here. Have you thought that one through? Club action restricted to between October and March?
You'd be talking the early rounds and/or group games through November, leading to quarter-finals and semi-finals over the Christmas and New Year period, and county finals around middle of January. Does that seem reasonable?
How are you going to guarantee availability of pitches for hundreds of club matches around the country each week during the worst weather of the year? It can be hard enough to keep even county grounds fairly right at those times.
The majority of clubs don't have floodlights. How are they to train during the week?
Quite frankly, yours is one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've heard.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2258 - 16/04/2024 21:08:09
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Replying To legendzxix: "A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later." Good man legendzxix. Are we all moving to Spain?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12196 - 16/04/2024 21:33:38
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Ah here. Have you thought that one through? Club action restricted to between October and March?
You'd be talking the early rounds and/or group games through November, leading to quarter-finals and semi-finals over the Christmas and New Year period, and county finals around middle of January. Does that seem reasonable?
How are you going to guarantee availability of pitches for hundreds of club matches around the country each week during the worst weather of the year? It can be hard enough to keep even county grounds fairly right at those times.
The majority of clubs don't have floodlights. How are they to train during the week?
Quite frankly, yours is one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've heard." I think this thread shows who lives in the real world and who doesn't...
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 16/04/2024 21:36:17
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "It has reduced inter county to a sideshow in comparison to rival sports.
Starting championship at same time as couch potatoes and media are totally focused on English soccer, and ending it before it takes over again.
Then running it off as if it is an embarrassment to get over between hosting concerts, rugby matches, conferences and trying to pimp our stadiums off to UEFA..
Enough already!" Well said Barney
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3686 - 16/04/2024 21:41:15
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Ah here. Have you thought that one through? Club action restricted to between October and March?
You'd be talking the early rounds and/or group games through November, leading to quarter-finals and semi-finals over the Christmas and New Year period, and county finals around middle of January. Does that seem reasonable?
How are you going to guarantee availability of pitches for hundreds of club matches around the country each week during the worst weather of the year? It can be hard enough to keep even county grounds fairly right at those times.
The majority of clubs don't have floodlights. How are they to train during the week?
Quite frankly, yours is one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've heard." Kerry had one of the later county finals on November 5th. A six week adjustment would bring that to the middle of December.
The club championships have been played through the autumn months for years. It's not that far removed from the way things were previously. County leagues in the spring and early summer. Ideally club players would have some time away in the summer before the club championships would start in a defined window.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7913 - 16/04/2024 23:25:23
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Replying To legendzxix: "A basic template for September finals is intercounty from the end of March to the end of September. Club from October to the end of March. A wrap around calendar of the current timescale, just moving two months later." That's terrible. It'd mean club championship is played October to December.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4247 - 17/04/2024 05:56:47
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Replying To Whammo86: "That's terrible. It'd mean club championship is played October to December." Yeah am definitely not in favour of club being reduced to wet, windy, dark months only. Nothing will push lads away from the game more. Push the inter-county championship start date a couple of weeks to the right and have the final in mid August, but not beyond that. Club is a bigger priority for most people than county and if you can't have a county final in some sort of decent weather then watch attendances nosedive and interest among players start to strain. If you lose club, you lose the ballgame.
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Clearly anyone who is in favour of moving back to September clearly has never played club championship.
Club players now have a clearly defined fixture calendar set out in Janauary as opposed to waiting to see when their county is knocked out and be made turn up for championship with 2 weeks notice.
God forbid Club players which is 100% of GAA players, can now plan weddings, holidays, their life outside of GAA.
The old way of April being the club month was a disaster, clubs training hard from Jan to play 1/2 championship games in April then not play another one until July/august.
In Westmeath, we have a lot of dual players playing senior in both codes, which to get to the final in both takes 15 weekends of back to back games. How does this fit into the schedule without a clearly defined inter county & club season. And Westmeath are usually out early, how does a county like Galway operate who will expect to go deep into both hurling and football all irelands every year
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Replying To legendzxix: "Kerry had one of the later county finals on November 5th. A six week adjustment would bring that to the middle of December.
The club championships have been played through the autumn months for years. It's not that far removed from the way things were previously. County leagues in the spring and early summer. Ideally club players would have some time away in the summer before the club championships would start in a defined window." When did you run your hurling championship?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12196 - 17/04/2024 09:53:32
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Replying To westmeathgaa11: "Clearly anyone who is in favour of moving back to September clearly has never played club championship.
Club players now have a clearly defined fixture calendar set out in Janauary as opposed to waiting to see when their county is knocked out and be made turn up for championship with 2 weeks notice.
God forbid Club players which is 100% of GAA players, can now plan weddings, holidays, their life outside of GAA.
The old way of April being the club month was a disaster, clubs training hard from Jan to play 1/2 championship games in April then not play another one until July/august.
In Westmeath, we have a lot of dual players playing senior in both codes, which to get to the final in both takes 15 weekends of back to back games. How does this fit into the schedule without a clearly defined inter county & club season. And Westmeath are usually out early, how does a county like Galway operate who will expect to go deep into both hurling and football all irelands every year" Excellent post.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1459 - 17/04/2024 09:56:20
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Football Proposal 2025:
Provinces - 11th Jan - 16th Feb
League - 1st March - 4th May
All Ireland / Tailteann Cup - 17th May - 10th August
All Club championships start last weekend of July unless your county is in All Ireland Final
Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 399 - 17/04/2024 10:15:20
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Replying To westmeathgaa11: "Clearly anyone who is in favour of moving back to September clearly has never played club championship.
Club players now have a clearly defined fixture calendar set out in Janauary as opposed to waiting to see when their county is knocked out and be made turn up for championship with 2 weeks notice.
God forbid Club players which is 100% of GAA players, can now plan weddings, holidays, their life outside of GAA.
The old way of April being the club month was a disaster, clubs training hard from Jan to play 1/2 championship games in April then not play another one until July/august.
In Westmeath, we have a lot of dual players playing senior in both codes, which to get to the final in both takes 15 weekends of back to back games. How does this fit into the schedule without a clearly defined inter county & club season. And Westmeath are usually out early, how does a county like Galway operate who will expect to go deep into both hurling and football all irelands every year" Sorry but at the moment There is no closed season. It's one game after another. With the All Ireland now in July Co Boards should have put the Co Finals no later than the first week of October, provincial finals first week of Nov and the semi finals and final done by Dec 8th. Then you could have a closed season until the end of January but Co Boards won't get the finger out and do that. You had the All Ireland club final one weekend and the next weekend it was straight into the league. When the league finals were over it was straight into championship. There are about 24 counties that can easily start their championship in mid July because they won't be at the business end of the Sam Maguire ot Tailteann Cup. The elephant in the room is that there are huge numbers of players in America and everyone wants them back for championship.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1682 - 17/04/2024 10:33:40
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