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McManus giving out about Carlow being relegated. Someone has to be relegated. The current system sets a qualifying standard for the provincial championships. Giving out for the sake of it!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7955 - 27/05/2024 16:34:50    2547714

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Replying To legendzxix:  "McManus giving out about Carlow being relegated. Someone has to be relegated. The current system sets a qualifying standard for the provincial championships. Giving out for the sake of it!"
No. Alot of us think the same. Did you read everything he said about development of the game, exposure, growth, keeping panels together, dissuading lads from travelling etc etc.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12503 - 27/05/2024 17:36:51    2547739

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Replying To LockLeanGayl:  "Could be all change in the McDonagh next year

Tom Mullaly is hot properly Carlow might do well to hold on to him. Rumours he's been approached about the Kilkenny U20s

If Offaly don't go up you could see Leo O'Connor as the new Offaly manager

Willie Maher prob safe in Laois after winning promotion in the league

Molumphy gone in Kerry so new man there

Rumours here that Joe will be gone"
I'm surprised to hear that bit of news about Mulally tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12503 - 27/05/2024 17:38:16    2547740

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I feel sorry for Carlow - sent down after matching KK.

Maybe it's time to merge most McD teams into the Provs?

Munster 6 (incl Kerry, top 2 to Muns Final).
Lein 10 (2 groups of 5, group winners to Lein Final).

AIC KO QFs
A) Muns Champ v winner between Lein two 3rds.
B) Lein RU v Muns 3rd
C) Lein Champ v Muns 4th
D) Muns RU v winner between Lein two 2nds.

AIC KO SFs
Winners AvB and CvD.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2669 - 27/05/2024 18:01:27    2547744

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Replying To omahant:  "I feel sorry for Carlow - sent down after matching KK.

Maybe it's time to merge most McD teams into the Provs?

Munster 6 (incl Kerry, top 2 to Muns Final).
Lein 10 (2 groups of 5, group winners to Lein Final).

AIC KO QFs
A) Muns Champ v winner between Lein two 3rds.
B) Lein RU v Muns 3rd
C) Lein Champ v Muns 4th
D) Muns RU v winner between Lein two 2nds.

AIC KO SFs
Winners AvB and CvD."
So you want 4 from the group of 6 and 3 from the groups of 10 ?

It's too complicated anyway.

Let the lower division of the league serve as a qualifier for provincial championship.

Revert provincial back to knockout.

Provincial champions into aisf

Runner up into aiqf

Everyone else in all Ireland preliminary groups.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2819 - 27/05/2024 20:19:51    2547784

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Replying To Viking66:  "No. Alot of us think the same. Did you read everything he said about development of the game, exposure, growth, keeping panels together, dissuading lads from travelling etc etc."
The people who were in favor of a 2nd (even 3rd tier) in Football are now saying that it doesn't work for hurling even though hurling was cited as the example? Offaly, Antrim and Westmeath played in the NHL1. Next year with the changes the teams who would have come up from 2 will end up playing similar teams to themselves with only Waterford and Dublin as the two top tier teams. Why did the hurling counties allow this to go through? because the league started to mean little to teams other than perhaps the weaker counties. What would happen to round robins with these teams in it - the same thing. Carlow in the old league structure would have at least played 4 top tier teams - I don't think I can remember anyone complaining about it back then

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1813 - 27/05/2024 21:19:37    2547793

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I wonder who will take over the Kerry hurlers now that Stephen Molumphy has gone. Would like to see someone from one of the top counties take them over. Cant think of any recently retired players who would be suitable. I know that Brendan Cummins from Tipperary was involved as selector a few years ago. Maybe he could come in and do a job

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 666 - 30/05/2024 12:52:46    2548368

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Replying To aidan64:  "I wonder who will take over the Kerry hurlers now that Stephen Molumphy has gone. Would like to see someone from one of the top counties take them over. Cant think of any recently retired players who would be suitable. I know that Brendan Cummins from Tipperary was involved as selector a few years ago. Maybe he could come in and do a job"
What about Christy Walsh? He's a proud Kerry man but is living in Kilkenny. And a good hurling man too. He did really well with the Bennetsbridge hurlers. He's currently managing the Kilkenny football team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12503 - 30/05/2024 14:48:57    2548414

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Replying To aidan64:  "I wonder who will take over the Kerry hurlers now that Stephen Molumphy has gone. Would like to see someone from one of the top counties take them over. Cant think of any recently retired players who would be suitable. I know that Brendan Cummins from Tipperary was involved as selector a few years ago. Maybe he could come in and do a job"
Cummins would more than likely not show up to games if he'd the opportunity to be on TV. Something he actually did when he was involved with Kerry before.

The problem with a lot of lads who come from "hurling counties" to the likes of Kerry is they're fully committed, not all but some. When Eamonn Kelly was managing Kerry we was also managing club teams. Michael Fennelly was playing with Ballyhale in the All-Ireland club championship, and I think he had a coach who was involved with Borris-Ileigh as well, when he became Offaly manager. If Kelly was managing Tipp and Fennelly Kilkenny neither would be involved with other teams like that.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1401 - 31/05/2024 12:29:46    2548555

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