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Surprised (maybe) that no-one's posted here yet... Anyway, one or two interesting motions passed. In hurling, if you take off your helmet, you have to leave the field. And the seven day restriction on playing both senior and U20 has been replaced by a 60-hour one across all Tiers. But the big one is that extra time is no longer considered a new game; yellow and black cards carry into extra time, and players sent off will not be replaced in extra time. Thoughts, all?

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1048 - 24/02/2024 17:59:38    2527871

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "Surprised (maybe) that no-one's posted here yet... Anyway, one or two interesting motions passed. In hurling, if you take off your helmet, you have to leave the field. And the seven day restriction on playing both senior and U20 has been replaced by a 60-hour one across all Tiers. But the big one is that extra time is no longer considered a new game; yellow and black cards carry into extra time, and players sent off will not be replaced in extra time. Thoughts, all?"
It's about time that cards got carried over into extra time, long overdue.
Good to see the helmet rule in hurling coming in too, it's gone ridiculous.
The 7 day restriction won't be binned though until 2025 which seems a shame that it can't be introduced immediately.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1918 - 24/02/2024 18:25:07    2527877

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The helmet rule is interesting had said it few years back its the only way to stop the gamesmanship slowing it down or brining play to a halt to break oppositionsons momentum like every rule it will punish the genuine . Hope the ref has discretion if genuine head injury to allow player be treated on the field first . Can see several other rules will be brought in in future to combat some of the other stuff I d imagine. But coaches adapt and dark arts will prevail it ll remain a never moving target .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 184 - 25/02/2024 18:58:04    2528084

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A genuine head injury means helmet removed and player removed, the only place to medically check on a player is on the sideline with less pressure from everyone and allow logical decisions to be made. It's basically a HIA

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1506 - 25/02/2024 20:16:00    2528106

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About time extra time is not considered a new game.
Was absolutely ridiculous being able to go back to 15

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 25/02/2024 21:49:01    2528137

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Congress and Jarlath Burns presidency needs to review rule 42 (no other sports on local GAA clubs grounds) and bring forward amendments that allow other sports and schools to share usage, ownership and funding of flood lite all weather pitches. (Not grass pitches)
All weather pitches are needed in all clubs but way too expensive to develop on their own and need all year round usage to be viable.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 26/02/2024 00:04:04    2528160

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Congress was in County Armagh this year - but RTE kept getting that wrong

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 26/02/2024 00:33:02    2528163

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Replying To Tirchonailabu56:  "Congress and Jarlath Burns presidency needs to review rule 42 (no other sports on local GAA clubs grounds) and bring forward amendments that allow other sports and schools to share usage, ownership and funding of flood lite all weather pitches. (Not grass pitches)
All weather pitches are needed in all clubs but way too expensive to develop on their own and need all year round usage to be viable."
Only shared facilities should be public ones. Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports? Another proposal towards cultural suicide,

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2591 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02    2528167

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Replying To Tirchonailabu56:  "Congress and Jarlath Burns presidency needs to review rule 42 (no other sports on local GAA clubs grounds) and bring forward amendments that allow other sports and schools to share usage, ownership and funding of flood lite all weather pitches. (Not grass pitches)
All weather pitches are needed in all clubs but way too expensive to develop on their own and need all year round usage to be viable."
The biggest issue these days is insurance.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12128 - 26/02/2024 06:49:54    2528175

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At long last the card situation for extra time marks since..delighted also to see this thing of helmets being removed dealt with to a certain degree,it is putting a bit of pressure on ref as he now has to decide is it genuine or not..it might stop some fellas from throwing themselves onto the ground like they had been shot by a sniper..as for the under 20 rule,if these games are played on Wednesday nights,from my reading of it a fella can now play in both competitions..this rule never made since and surely a senior manager wouldn't go looking for an under 20 to train in between games..I'll be interested to see what ideas the new football committee come up with..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2232 - 27/02/2024 20:22:02    2528723

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Replying To Tirchonailabu56:  "Congress and Jarlath Burns presidency needs to review rule 42 (no other sports on local GAA clubs grounds) and bring forward amendments that allow other sports and schools to share usage, ownership and funding of flood lite all weather pitches. (Not grass pitches)
All weather pitches are needed in all clubs but way too expensive to develop on their own and need all year round usage to be viable."
Plenty of GAA clubs allowing soccer to be played on their astro pitches. Getting paid for it. Win win.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 27/02/2024 21:31:09    2528736

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Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13719 - 28/02/2024 11:16:00    2528783

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?"
Also far more likely to get governmemt grant money like sports capital funding of you share facilities with other sports or groups

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3514 - 28/02/2024 13:05:38    2528795

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?"
Because they would be in breach of our rules, which are there for a reason.

If people had the same attitude as many now in days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture then they would have died.

They will die inevitably if this attitude takes hold. As it is indeed even in the schools that are supposed to be bringing children up speaking Irish but have capitulated to other demands.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2591 - 28/02/2024 22:27:17    2528861

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?"
Because they would be in breach of our rules, which are there for a reason.

If people had the same attitude as many now in days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture then they would have died.

They will die inevitably if this attitude takes hold. As it is indeed even in the schools that are supposed to be bringing children up speaking Irish but have capitulated to other demands."
It's not the days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture, though. It's 2023. Clubs need money to survive and need new members and volunteers. Plenty of rural GAA clubs have players playing soccer, basketball, rugby etc and probably in big towns and cities there's something similar. Bills have to be paid and if GAA clubs can get paid for use of their facilities and draw in a few more players and members, through renting their hall, meeting rooms, pitches, all the better. No point in leaving them idle if not needed for GAA activities and pass up on opportunity to get new younger members in. It's hard enough to get kids off the couch and away from tablets and Xbox without restricting where they could try sports.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 29/02/2024 08:58:58    2528885

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "
Replying To BarneyGrant:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?"
Because they would be in breach of our rules, which are there for a reason.

If people had the same attitude as many now in days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture then they would have died.

They will die inevitably if this attitude takes hold. As it is indeed even in the schools that are supposed to be bringing children up speaking Irish but have capitulated to other demands."
It's not the days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture, though. It's 2023. Clubs need money to survive and need new members and volunteers. Plenty of rural GAA clubs have players playing soccer, basketball, rugby etc and probably in big towns and cities there's something similar. Bills have to be paid and if GAA clubs can get paid for use of their facilities and draw in a few more players and members, through renting their hall, meeting rooms, pitches, all the better. No point in leaving them idle if not needed for GAA activities and pass up on opportunity to get new younger members in. It's hard enough to get kids off the couch and away from tablets and Xbox without restricting where they could try sports."]I know ye're a bit behind the times in Rhubarbland but we're now 2 months into 2024....
Still you're 130 or 140 years ahead of Barney

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1451 - 29/02/2024 11:49:43    2528920

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?"
Because they would be in breach of our rules, which are there for a reason.

If people had the same attitude as many now in days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture then they would have died.

They will die inevitably if this attitude takes hold. As it is indeed even in the schools that are supposed to be bringing children up speaking Irish but have capitulated to other demands."
Oh you are back speaking about Irish in the schools again. Tell us about these other demands.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7908 - 29/02/2024 11:52:22    2528922

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "
Replying To GreenandRed:  "[quote=BarneyGrant:  "[quote=MesAmis:  "Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports?
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2413 - 26/02/2024 00:53:02


Cash, money, airgead.

No club can be forced to share the facilities that they own if they do not want nor need to.

How you could have a problem with a club using its own facilities as it sees fit is bizarre.

If a club has a pitch or a hall lying idle why shouldn't they be allowed to rent it out to whoever needs it?"
Because they would be in breach of our rules, which are there for a reason.

If people had the same attitude as many now in days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture then they would have died.

They will die inevitably if this attitude takes hold. As it is indeed even in the schools that are supposed to be bringing children up speaking Irish but have capitulated to other demands."
It's not the days when the Association and the Gaelic League had to struggle to save dying parts of our culture, though. It's 2023. Clubs need money to survive and need new members and volunteers. Plenty of rural GAA clubs have players playing soccer, basketball, rugby etc and probably in big towns and cities there's something similar. Bills have to be paid and if GAA clubs can get paid for use of their facilities and draw in a few more players and members, through renting their hall, meeting rooms, pitches, all the better. No point in leaving them idle if not needed for GAA activities and pass up on opportunity to get new younger members in. It's hard enough to get kids off the couch and away from tablets and Xbox without restricting where they could try sports."]I know ye're a bit behind the times in Rhubarbland but we're now 2 months into 2024....
Still you're 130 or 140 years ahead of Barney"]Guilty as charged Seanfanbocht. You've put a smile on my face too!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7375 - 29/02/2024 17:42:37    2528966

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Only shared facilities should be public ones. Why should GAA share our facilities with rival sports? Another proposal towards cultural suicide,"
I'm just proposing flood lite astro turf pitches and halls which can be used all year round, especially by other sports during the GAA off season. Sadly we don't have enough shared public astro pitches and we really need the rugby, soccer and GAA clubs coming together to develop these astro pitches.

I'm not proposing opening up our GAA grass pitches as clubs are struggling to provide pitch space for all their own age groups and pitches tend to be too wet to play in from October to March.

Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 17 - 11/03/2024 12:30:06    2530729

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I'm putting this subject on here..I've watched a lot of hurling over the last few weeks and I just can't figure out what rules the refs are implementing..the weekend just gone really baffled..Saturday night lim/tipp,ref seemed to ignore the steps rule on both sides..a blatant push on jake morris which I think limerick scored from.gillane tripped inside 14 no penalty or black card..the holding of the free hand for players completely ignored..Maher got a yellow for what I thought was a shoulder charge,but I heard a lot saying it wasn't even a free..yesterday round 50 frees in 70 mins in Ennis..I really couldn't work out a lot of them at all,diving now seems to win frees for any team..Hutchinson getting away with a punch to a Wexford player but again rules seemed completely different in this match..Johnny Murphy getting criticised for giving reds yet I thought 3 of them were fully deserved..he was informed by umpires and linesmen so it wasn't all his decisions..refs having to retire at 50 when very capable and some of the better ones..croke park seem more interested in bleep test being passed than anything on rules..I'd like to get others opinions on these matters..I'm not going to mention football..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2232 - 11/03/2024 18:03:54    2530794

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